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**Maestro** · 12-16-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by inder.cool View Post

the new 200 is not going to have the USD forks, low on power as compared to the ktm200, it has a air-cooled engine.

all these factors are responsible for its price to be 90k.

Yes Paaji...happened to see two of them during lavasa ride today.....

Rear disc was present....also 120 size rear tyres.....the front headlight was bit broader than ktm....the Orange thing on engine was missing....it is full dc.....it sounded awesome....I was on 117kmph(speedo indicated)...when they just ripped past me....and disappeared in horizon.....

They stopped few kms ahead....but due to a truck I couldn't stop my bike next to them....happened to get a good glance though.....and by the time I turned my bike to go back to place they stopped they started ripping again and disppeared...

Seems like the pics posted here were just readers sent down by company for guessing game.....maybe they tried putting different pieces together and now came up with final product ....
Punekars keep your eyes open......

**vikhyath** · 12-16-2011, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by Maestro View Post

Yes Paaji...happened to see two of them during lavasa ride today.....

Rear disc was present....also 120 size rear tyres.....the front headlight was bit broader than ktm....the Orange thing on engine was missing....it is full dc.....it sounded awesome....I was on 117kmph(speedo indicated)...when they just ripped past me....and disappeared in horizon.....

They stopped few kms ahead....but due to a truck I couldn't stop my bike next to them....happened to get a good glance though.....and by the time I turned my bike to go back to place they stopped they started ripping again and disppeared...

Seems like the pics posted here were just readers sent down by company for guessing game.....maybe they tried putting different pieces together and now came up with final product ....
Punekars keep your eyes open......

Is it different from the P135 styling?

**Maestro** · 12-16-2011, 12:29 AM

It was all masked....but it looked beefier than the 135.....

**payeng** · 12-16-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Omid Adab View Post

same here actually no point bringing 2 200 models

Why..?? Doesn't the 150 cc R15 and the 150 cc FZ/Fazer co-exist..??

Restricting our imagination just to engine cc is so layman like line of thought.

Originally posted by Maestro View Post

Yes Paaji...happened to see two of them during lavasa ride today.....

Rear disc was present....also 120 size rear tyres.....the front headlight was bit broader than ktm....the Orange thing on engine was missing....it is full dc.....it sounded awesome....I was on 117kmph(speedo indicated)...when they just ripped past me....and disappeared in horizon.....

They stopped few kms ahead....but due to a truck I couldn't stop my bike next to them....happened to get a good glance though.....and by the time I turned my bike to go back to place they stopped they started ripping again and disppeared...

Interesting

**Maestro** · 12-16-2011, 11:38 AM

Yes payeng...this was the first thing I noticed......with no exhaust pipe....it was easy to spot....

**Crank49** · 12-16-2011, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Bajaj has been doing that for a long long time!

Caliber and Caliber Croma: 110.6cc

Discover 100(94.38cc) and Platina 100(99.27cc)

Discover 125 and Platina 125 : 124.6cc

Grandpa Pulsar 150, Discover 150 and Boxer 150: 144.8cc

Different branding, different technologies, different equipment levels, different pricing.

But here it is Bajaj and KTM through bajaj, r8? and if both the bikes use more or less same engines the price factor of bajaj would win over ktm na?

**ajaskochi** · 12-16-2011, 08:42 PM

So ,

Feels like i have to make my CBR Booking Pending and wait for the Duke & still continue with the P220 FI that i am using for the last 4.5 years
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**vrugonnab** · 12-16-2011, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Crank49 View Post

But here it is Bajaj and KTM through bajaj, r8? and if both the bikes use more or less same engines the price factor of bajaj would win over ktm na?

Don't worry, Bajaj will make sure that there is enough difference between both the bikes, aren't they selling P150/D150/B150 at different price points? They know how to do it.

**vikhyath** · 12-16-2011, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Crank49 View Post

But here it is Bajaj and KTM through bajaj, r8? and if both the bikes use more or less same engines the price factor of bajaj would win over ktm na?

KTMs get FI, dual disks, inverted front forks, and the KTM branding! Pulsars will get more desi materials and lower equipment levels. Thats how they will be able to save more money.

**Crank49** · 12-16-2011, 10:18 PM

That could adversly affect KaTooM's demand.

**J K** · 12-16-2011, 10:40 PM

All sounds like awesome. P U L S A R Come soooooon.........

Yes Paaji...happened to see two of them during lavasa ride today.....

Rear disc was present....also 120 size rear tyres.....the front headlight was bit broader than ktm....the Orange thing on engine was missing....it is full dc.....it sounded awesome....I was on 117kmph(speedo indicated)...when they just ripped past me....and disappeared in horizon.....

They stopped few kms ahead....but due to a truck I couldn't stop my bike next to them....happened to get a good glance though.....and by the time I turned my bike to go back to place they stopped they started ripping again and disppeared...

Seems like the pics posted here were just readers sent down by company for guessing game.....maybe they tried putting different pieces together and now came up with final product ....
Punekars keep your eyes open......

This too awesome. Seen all that leather covered (like the spied ones) one or just some parts masked?

**Nithesh** · 12-16-2011, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Why..?? Doesn't the 150 cc R15 and the 150 cc FZ/Fazer co-exist..??

Yeah but they fall in two different categories?
Any Tom Dick and Harry can differentiate between a fully faired sports/performance bike(R15) and a naked/semi faired street bike(FZ/Fazer). They perform on two different levels.

The Katoom and the pulsars are two naked bikes that fall into the same "sports/peformance bike" category. They are most likely going to be on the same level in terms of performance.
So if the Pulsar is as good as the Duke interms of performance, it is most likely that the Mango man will pick the cheapest of the two i.e. the Pulsar whereas a real enthusiast will go for the Duke.

No wonder Bajaj has been delaying the Pulsar all this while. Maybe theyre going to study the market reception of the Duke and then decide when to release the Pulsars

**vrugonnab** · 12-16-2011, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Crank49 View Post

That could adversly affect KaTooM's demand.

As long as buyer ends up with a Bajaj/KTM product, they will not worry too much about it.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Yeah but they fall in two different categories?
Any Tom Dick and Harry can differentiate between a fully faired sports/performance bike(R15) and a naked/semi faired street bike(FZ/Fazer). They perform on two different levels.

The Katoom and the pulsars are two naked bikes that fall into the same "sports/peformance bike" category. They are most likely going to be on the same level in terms of performance.
So if the Pulsar is as good as the Duke interms of performance, it is most likely that the Mango man will pick the cheapest of the two i.e. the Pulsar whereas a real enthusiast will go for the Duke.

No wonder Bajaj has been delaying the Pulsar all this while. Maybe theyre going to study the market reception of the Duke and then decide when to release the Pulsars

Is that your assumption? apparently an illogical one, Bajaj will make sure that there is enough to differentiate between Pulsar & Duke, be it on equipment levels or performance levels, so that any tom, dick and harry can understand what they stand for. Pulsar was, is & always will stand for affordable performance, while Duke will slug it out with premium category i.e. CBR/R15. Why do you think they are going to produce a dud in terms of sales by bringing in competition from their own stables?

**Maestro** · 12-17-2011, 12:32 AM

^^ theres a difference in engine....one has air cooled and one has liquid cooled....so a overall difference in power is expected.....and as mentioned above KTM will be in premium category....not the pulsar!!!!

Originally posted by J K View Post

All sounds like awesome. P U L S A R Come soooooon.........

This too awesome. Seen all that leather covered (like the spied ones) one or just some parts masked?

Spied ones...but slightly different than those in pictures....

**kaynmantis** · 12-17-2011, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Yeah but they fall in two different categories?
Any Tom Dick and Harry can differentiate between a fully faired sports/performance bike(R15) and a naked/semi faired street bike(FZ/Fazer). They perform on two different levels.

The Katoom and the pulsars are two naked bikes that fall into the same "sports/peformance bike" category.

I would describe Duke closer to FZ than R15. Albeit a much more powerful one. And by virtue of its looks alone, anyone could differentiate between the fully-faired-leaning-forward-riding-posture R15 from the naked-more-upright-riding-posture of Duke. Hard to put the two in the same "sports/performance" (as you put it) category. Can't say exactly what category but Duke and R15 does not belong in the same category.

I think as far as new pulsar is concern, it may be more or less much like current pulsar I.e. sports-commuter(pillion friendly)-tourer-performance-street etc. difference being more modern in design.

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