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  • Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
    Hot News: Well the Pulsar's testing phase isnt over yet Just caught them testing today near corporation till Dehu road Pune at around 11am.

    Hotter News: Had a test ride of around 6kms of the new pulsars.


    And the Hottest News of all:

    Ride Report:

    Engine is of KTM 200cc.
    0-60 acceleration is nearly same as of 220s.
    Accelerated to 114 pretty fast. (It goes faster, I couldn't test the topspeed though due to traffic)
    The gear box is different. So is the seating position.
    The tank is quite big (i assume its for greater range)
    I truly envy the lock set. Its just too good.
    The petrol tank lid looked nearly the same as 220F's
    The sprocket is much smaller than the KTM
    I forgot to see if it was carbureted or another Fi. (Sorry)
    I felt the handling somewhat like a Fazer but a little smaller.
    I think cornering wouldn't be an issue in these.
    Most importantly for Indian roads, they have an amazing ground clearance.
    Additionally expect a price of 97k to 1.2L INR on road. (As per the riders and their test guru)

    They did not allow me to peek-a-view of the bike under the cover
    You are lucky to enjoy the test drive of an much anticipated bike even before its launch. How was the overall performance? Was it better than current P220?
    EDIT: Any clue about launch date ?

    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    Liquid cooled or Air Cooled?

    What about engine smoothness and vibrations?


    If the price tag of ~1 lakh is true then i believe it is a liquid cooled FI
    Last edited by Prabhakar150; 01-18-2012, 08:27 PM.

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    • Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
      Hot News: Well the Pulsar's testing phase isnt over yet Just caught them testing today near corporation till Dehu road Pune at around 11am.

      Hotter News: Had a test ride of around 6kms of the new pulsars.


      And the Hottest News of all:

      Ride Report:

      Engine is of KTM 200cc.
      0-60 acceleration is nearly same as of 220s.
      Accelerated to 114 pretty fast. (It goes faster, I couldn't test the topspeed though due to traffic)
      The gear box is different. So is the seating position.
      The tank is quite big (i assume its for greater range)
      I truly envy the lock set. Its just too good.
      The petrol tank lid looked nearly the same as 220F's
      The sprocket is much smaller than the KTM
      I forgot to see if it was carbureted or another Fi. (Sorry)
      I felt the handling somewhat like a Fazer but a little smaller.
      I think cornering wouldn't be an issue in these.
      Most importantly for Indian roads, they have an amazing ground clearance.
      Additionally expect a price of 97k to 1.2L INR on road. (As per the riders and their test guru)

      They did not allow me to peek-a-view of the bike under the cover
      this is awsome news man..
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      • Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
        Hot News: Well the Pulsar's testing phase isnt over yet Just caught them testing today near corporation till Dehu road Pune at around 11am.

        Hotter News: Had a test ride of around 6kms of the new pulsars.


        And the Hottest News of all:

        Ride Report:

        Engine is of KTM 200cc.
        0-60 acceleration is nearly same as of 220s.
        Accelerated to 114 pretty fast. (It goes faster, I couldn't test the topspeed though due to traffic)
        The gear box is different. So is the seating position.
        The tank is quite big (i assume its for greater range)
        I truly envy the lock set. Its just too good.
        The petrol tank lid looked nearly the same as 220F's
        The sprocket is much smaller than the KTM
        I forgot to see if it was carbureted or another Fi. (Sorry)
        I felt the handling somewhat like a Fazer but a little smaller.
        I think cornering wouldn't be an issue in these.
        Most importantly for Indian roads, they have an amazing ground clearance.
        Additionally expect a price of 97k to 1.2L INR on road. (As per the riders and their test guru)

        They did not allow me to peek-a-view of the bike under the cover
        OK, so we have our first ride report, fantastic news. but how did you convince them to get to ride for 6 kms man ? Till now all the sightings in this forums the guy never even allowed the sighter to be close to the bike ??

        *KTM engine was kinda obvious from the pics i guess
        *same question about gear box,how different ?
        *If im not mistaken you ride a 220Fi right ? So comparing the throttle response how was it ? As crisp as an Fi bike ? You must have felt something right ?
        *So handling has increased,thats a really great news.
        *judging from the price,it might be a liquid cooled,Fi engine( since the 220Fi) was placed in the similar price range right ? I might be wrong but still,just my opinion.
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        • Hoping the Frame is improved as compared to before, some insider also gave me that its gonna be a delta frame something which till date only R15 uses, so its time to rejoice and yes its liquid cooled without leakage technology from KTM.

          Also there is a possibility that the 200 will be in naked like the earlier 200 cc engines, but short stroke ones and the 220 will be having a re designed cowl and fairing.

          Also there is a high possibility that 220 will have either more bhp or a 250 cc heart pumping as the delta frame is rigid and can handle that sized engine and power.

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          • Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            ...
            Engine is of KTM 200cc.
            ...
            Why would Bajaj launch 2 bikes with the same engine. Everyone knows that Bajaj is launching the KTM Duke 200 on 24th January. So, why would Bajaj use the same engine and plonk it on a Pulsar frame? Pulsar competing with KTM. Bad idea
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            • Originally posted by Alibaba View Post
              Why would Bajaj launch 2 bikes with the same engine. Everyone knows that Bajaj is launching the KTM Duke 200 on 24th January. So, why would Bajaj use the same engine and plonk it on a Pulsar frame? Pulsar competing with KTM. Bad idea
              Maybe a detuned version, with many other changes making it suitable for cost cutting. And friend its still all speculation, nothing is official until the launch.
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              • Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                Maybe a detuned version, with many other changes making it suitable for cost cutting. And friend its still all speculation, nothing is official until the launch.
                I believe KTM is designed for offroad and on road experiences and 200 or 220 pulsars are for the road only. So the two bikes launch.

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                • now anyone thinks it make sense of Rajiv Bajaj statement of IPhone 4 and 4S ???
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                  • Originally posted by shrinathrao View Post
                    I believe KTM is designed for offroad and on road experiences and 200 or 220 pulsars are for the road only. So the two bikes launch.
                    Nope, Dukes are Street Bikes meant for Street riding from KTM



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                    • Originally posted by nagoo View Post
                      now anyone thinks it make sense of Rajiv Bajaj statement of IPhone 4 and 4S ???
                      There is no unveling, there are no specs out. Whatever Utsav has written is what his bu++ dyno tells him. Whatever he wrote, we already knew here.

                      @Utsav, BlackRival, others chasing the test riders down, let them test each and every thing in peace or else this will be another version of the Pulsar 2012 beta test program. 1.2 Lac is overkill for a Pulsar. I don't think RB can justify the cost with enough no.s.

                      Anyways, Fazer handling + P220+ wild power = delicious package. I just hope they have a wind-tunnel tested version of the new P220 for the people(like me) who are more inclined towards the half faired variety.
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                      • Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                        There is no unveling, there are no specs out. Whatever Utsav has written is what his bu++ dyno tells him. Whatever he wrote, we already knew here.

                        @Utsav, BlackRival, others chasing the test riders down, let them test each and every thing in peace or else this will be another version of the Pulsar 2012 beta test program. 1.2 Lac is overkill for a Pulsar. I don't think RB can justify the cost with enough no.s.

                        Anyways, Fazer handling + P220+ wild power = delicious package. I just hope they have a wind-tunnel tested version of the new P220 for the people(like me) who are more inclined towards the half faired variety.
                        let me correct a little bit on that
                        what if it be more like Fazer handling+p220 wild power (could be even more wilder)+apache rtr 180 like acceleration+ lighter weight= even MORE Delicious don't you think...?

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                        • Bajaj made Pulsar on evolution basis. Check out the very one "classic" pulsar, then second one with trapezoidal headlights, third one with enlarged wheelbase & reduced tire size & the last one changed nothing much without carburetor & tank scoops.

                          If we consider the past journey of the bike, we can easily calculate, there will be no revolution to come. (Here for revolution, I mean, something like launching of FZ series by Yamaha, after selling boring bike like crux.)

                          Why Bajaj will fit the KTM engine on pulsar frame, when it can rip good premium on that machine alone? Also infusion of KTM in bajaj machine will dilute KTM's premium image. (Who will buy KTM, if same engine available for half of the price?) Similarly current standard pulsar engine having enough power to lure the bikers? Hence, practical viability of KTM heart in pulsar is very low.

                          What we expect is a same capacity DTSi engine with 4 valve/ cylinder configuration with increased power. (May be 16 / 17 HP, may be not... for 150 cc engine.) Mono shocks, Flatter tires, same relaxed sporty position etc...

                          Expecting bike at par with Duke200 in every term in half of that price is a day dreaming....
                          Last edited by mustang70; 01-18-2012, 07:48 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by mustang70 View Post
                            Bajaj made Pulsar on evolution basis. Check out the very one "classic" pulsar, then second one with trapezoidal headlights, third one with enlarged wheelbase & reduced tire size & the last one changed nothing much without carburetor & tank scoops.

                            If we consider the past journey of the bike, we can easily calculate, there will be no revolution to come. (Here for revolution, I mean, something like launching of FZ series by Yamaha, after selling boring bike like crux.)

                            Why Bajaj will fit the KTM engine on pulsar frame, when it can rip good premium on that machine alone? Also infusion of KTM in bajaj machine will dilute KTM's premium image. (Who will buy KTM, if same engine available for half of the price?) Similarly current standard pulsar engine having enough power to lure the bikers? Hence, practical viability of KTM heart in pulsar is very low.

                            What we expect is a same capacity DTSi engine with 4 valve/ cylinder configuration with increased power. (May be 16 / 17 HP, may be not... for 150 cc engine.) Mono shocks, Flatter tires, same relaxed sporty position etc...

                            Expecting bike at par with Duke200 in every term in half of that price is a day dreaming....
                            Dude we already know for a fact that its a KTM engine..
                            More importantly, the KTM won't cost twice as much as the Pulsar. It's gonna be 1L+ for the pulsar and 1.5ish L for the KTM. So i think it's a great stratergy from Bajaj.
                            It cuts down reasons as to why anyone would be an R15 or a CBR.
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                            • Originally posted by mustang70 View Post
                              Bajaj made Pulsar on evolution basis. Check out the very one "classic" pulsar, then second one with trapezoidal headlights, third one with enlarged wheelbase & reduced tire size & the last one changed nothing much without carburetor & tank scoops.

                              If we consider the past journey of the bike, we can easily calculate, there will be no revolution to come. (Here for revolution, I mean, something like launching of FZ series by Yamaha, after selling boring bike like crux.)

                              Why Bajaj will fit the KTM engine on pulsar frame, when it can rip good premium on that machine alone? Also infusion of KTM in bajaj machine will dilute KTM's premium image. (Who will buy KTM, if same engine available for half of the price?) Similarly current standard pulsar engine having enough power to lure the bikers? Hence, practical viability of KTM heart in pulsar is very low.

                              What we expect is a same capacity DTSi engine with 4 valve/ cylinder configuration with increased power. (May be 16 / 17 HP, may be not... for 150 cc engine.) Mono shocks, Flatter tires, same relaxed sporty position etc...

                              Expecting bike at par with Duke200 in every term in half of that price is a day dreaming....
                              What you said about the evolution is right,that part i do agree.

                              But your theory that Bajaj cannot come up with a revolutionary product is something that cant be agreed on. The R&D department doesn't go on announcing or showcasing about their current projects,agreed it might take time,but making a statement like a revolutionary product wont come isn't the right thing as per my view.

                              Just expressing my views here.
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                              • Originally posted by shrinathrao View Post
                                Hoping the Frame is improved as compared to before, some insider also gave me that its gonna be a delta frame something which till date only R15 uses, so its time to rejoice and yes its liquid cooled without leakage technology from KTM.

                                Also there is a possibility that the 200 will be in naked like the earlier 200 cc engines, but short stroke ones and the 220 will be having a re designed cowl and fairing.

                                Also there is a high possibility that 220 will have either more bhp or a 250 cc heart pumping as the delta frame is rigid and can handle that sized engine and power.
                                Are you like daydreaming?
                                how on earth can a 220 have a 250cc heart?

                                Also Deltabox frame is patented by Yamaha?
                                i cannot see Bajaj ever using it on their products

                                And what on earth is a "leakage technology"?

                                If you know Rajiv Bajaj, you should know that Pulsar's will always be naked bikes. Rajiv Bajaj has a soft spot for naked bikes over faired ones.

                                And please if ur speculating things you should be proudly acknowledging the fact by mentioning the same instead of saying "Some Insider said...."


                                or were you being sarcastic?
                                Last edited by Nithesh; 01-18-2012, 08:51 PM.
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