Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Since everyone is throwing CCs and Prices out of thin air, why shouldnt I?


On Road Prices (and CCs :P)

Pulsar 200NS - 1.02Lac
CBR150R/R15 - 1.30-1.40Lac
Duke 200 - 1.54Lac

Pulsar 200SS - 1.12Lac OTR
RC200 ABS - 1.84Lac


CBR250R/ABS - 1.65/1.99Lac
GT250R - 3.46lac
Ninja300 - 3.94Lac
Duke 390 - 2.14Lac

Pulsar 375SS - 2.14lac
RC390 - 2.54lac
Enduro390 - 2.44 to 2.64Lac

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200NS + Fairing = 200SS.
Sounds more Rajiv Bajaj to me. More rational too. And why not!

And like how a 200cc Pulsar was built from the Duke 200 platform, so will the Pulsar 375 be, only faired. Sounds more easier than building an engine from an entirely new platform. Rajiv Bajaj? Rational? Why not!

Bajaj in order to cut cost on the faired siblings might NOT go the Duke/RC way, though. Designing the same fairing for both the bikes. But if it does, it could save alot of time and money.

As far as the 300cc "unexplored" territory goes, where is the need to even explore it now? I mean, had I the money (regardless of me being an enthusiat or a poser) would I not prefer the 375 over the 300?(happily assuming the difference in otr would be pretty much the same).


As far as the price difference of 10k between NS and SS 200 goes. Well, the faired parts of a Limited Edition R15 cost 13k, including the metal tank. And these parts from top to toe reek of quality.
Assuming Rajiv Bajaj gives a fairing (exactly) at par in terms of quality as the Jap as well as accepting the fact Yamaha charges a bomb for its LE spares, the Pulsar fairing wouldn't cost more than 10k now would it?

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Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Wait just 6k for all those, seems unbelievable for me too, . . BTW am also slowly losing hope on this, concentrating my savings towards 200NS as it seems better in the handling Department. . . Let me just see the final model and ride it once to decide which to buy. . . An upgraded NS means competition for Duke, 200SS as they will almost equally be priced or a little less pricing gap which will make it hard for either to go well, . . So in that case, I think it's a doubt, may be that might be a 180NS IMO. . .

Cheers!!!

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

According to me it should be a sub 200cc bike as bajaj confirmed its launch almost a year ago. Another fact is, they must be looking to increase their dwindling market share rather than launching premium products. After this naked sub 200cc bike they can come up with p375 as d390 is already in market. As per bajaj's trend RC series will be launched prior to bajaj faired bikes. So people have to wait for another 4-5 months to ride bajaj's faired horses.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

This definitely makes sense, I mean why exactly Bajaj would go to work on a bike that's already a hit. . ? The only thing they should upgrade is the tires IMO presently, . . Fi I don't think it's needed as stated by many, as there is no problem with carb at present. . . A naked sub 200cc, probably a 180NS is what I think might be making it's way here with similar looks of 200NS. . . Bajaj has a good bike now, they gotta bring out better one's, i.e., 200SS and 375 and one more thing is to stop overcrowding, presently that's what they have done with their Discovers, there are so many discovers that the customer will go mad seeing all and above this, they still have few more to launch, Bakwaas. . .

Now what I feel should be there under the Pulsar brand must be a p150, 180NS, 200NS, 220 (heard that it might be stopped not sure), 200SS, P375, . . This is it, it's clean and won't be confusing for the customer as well. . . Else if it goes like, p150, p180, 180NS, 200NS, 200fi, 200ss, 220s, 220f, p375, 375NS, it just seems to overcrowd. . .

PS: Did I go too over the limit or off off topic . . ?

PPS: Bajaj please release them quickly, I wanna make my decision to which to buy, 200NS/200SS, whichever suits my needs. . .

Cheers!!!

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News


A reboring of a smaller capacity to make it higher is usually what companies. Do we have examples of a company launching a 200 CC then going down to 180? Does it happen? Just curious. Btw I don't think they'll continue using their current in house 180 CC engine in the new 180NS too if it's launched at all.
Also I think they'd no longer continue their strategy to separate segments by just 20 cc. So IMO, a 150 cc pulsar, then a 200CC and then the 375 CC, with FS and NS version of all three or at least for the latter two, with the 150 CC being offered in naked only

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

[MENTION=48967]Doga[/MENTION] : I don't know but I guess Bajaj did the same with Pulsar 200 (bot the NS) because they had launched 220 before that. I may be wrong in this assumption.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Guys, Bajaj will be releasing a new Pulsar 180 (It will be a naked bike for sure) and a Pulsar 200SS (lots of spy pics are up on the net). A faired P375 will be launched based on the D390 but as of now nothing's promised.

As far as an upgraded 200NS goes, it s expected that an FI variant will be launched. Although it seems uneccessary at the moment.

And if you would like to know Bajaj was going to release 6 new discovers this financial year (Yeah 6!!) I guess 4 have been launched and two are yet to be unveiled.
Bajaj has absolutely no plans on foraying into the scooter market now or in the near future also. The MD was very particular about becoming the 2 wheeler kings of India.

So yeah, 2 new pulsars for sure at the Auto Expo

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

There is a rumour going around that the P375 will feature 6 spark plugs!

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

IMO their will be a 150ns in order to refresh the segment leader and then theirs 200ss ...

Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

220 fi semi fairing costs 3000 (including mount)and head light assembly 3400)single projector).
Even if we minus the regular lamps of ns the Full fairing Dual projector can never be given for 6k!

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Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Yep. I doubt 6k is a legit increment. Must be at least 10k, no?

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Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

IMO what Bajaj needs now is a good faired bike around 1 lakh range. Their share in that segment is 0! With a product like 200SS they can reap some serious profit. And it's always good to have a fully faired bike in the product portfolio. The 375SS has a VERY LIMITED sales potential when compared to the 200SS. The absence of fairing is the reason why the NS is not a big hit. Power ain't everything. 'Price to looks ratio' matters too and that's simply the secret behind R15's success.

Budget, commuter class bikes are Hero's forte. I guess Bajaj now knows it after their 1000th Discover launch . They should focus more on their strength ie. affordable performance. 150+cc is what they should look at and a powerful, stylish 200cc fully faired bike priced correctly will definitely help improve the reputation and profit figure. Especially with Hero planning for the new Karizma, Bajaj should make sure that they win this battle. They have the potential to do that with the alliance of KTM.

Btw, sales figures don't tell much about the company's profit or reputation. What is cheap will sell more. That's obvious, especially in a country like India. More expensive bikes have more profit in it for the company. I think even with lower sales figures and revenue, Bajaj makes more profit than Hero.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Ever heard about Royal Enfield Bikes & their waiting period?

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Hehe I will mention the sales figures.
RE sales in 9 months - 123018 units. Hero Motocorp sold 5.24 lakh motorcycles in December 2013 alone.

Long waiting period can be caused by poor infrastructure too .

Re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

Totally Agree! Longer waiting periods does'nt always mean better demand or sales. Apart from poor infrastructure they indulge in creating artificial scarcity for their products just to boost their image in the market.

A common line is " See the waiting peirod of this bike! It sure is such an awesome machine that demand exceeds supply! I will buy this bike. Isme hi dum hai!" Total BS!