Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

yes, thats what i meant,

take a ninja 650, replace the engine, reduce the price, change the logo, and you get this bike.

it was a way to say that both bikes are in same segment and and are quite similar except a few things.

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

Oops , My bad..got it all wrong

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

honda ki jai ho " all i want is Made in India ". my cbr is done 2 years i will run it for another 2 ... if this thing comes anything close to 4.5.. this is my sure shot upgrade...

87 bhp... inline 4.. add a FFE. audio nirvana.. + another 8-9 bhp due to FFE ... a ton mark bhp machine under 5L is a real game changer....

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

This bike has a nice exhaust note...

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Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

Would have loved to see an exhaust like CBR600 if not under seat , could be like GT650, I personally don't like the under belly exhaust. To me , Bikes looks beefy with the exhaust sticking out.

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

That's an interesting news. Will help the cost to be reduced substantially.

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

I wouldn't say its a good news, I would say its a good "old" news. We already know every bit of info from this article.
Even Honda officially confirmed on the mobile version of its official site, citing CBR 650F as the "Going to be Made in India Sportsbike" or something, an year or so ago.
So, it was officially on their cards and we know it since some time...


What I really want to know is that going from CBR 600F (100 bhp) to 650F, they lost a total of 13 bhp. How did they lose bhp while increasing capacity?
Is it detuning for Indian fuel? or for better low end torque or mileage?
Or is it just plainly a different or older engine repackaged?


Till date, couldn't get this answer?

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

You can check the equipment on both bikes. CBR600F has usd forks.CBR650F has normal suspension. Also the switchgear and other small parts are lower spec on 650f. The main aim of this bike is sale in Asian markets. Not to forget competition with Ninja 650.
The initial researched cost is 4.3 lakhs ex-showroom.

Still can't wrap my head around this idea of an inline four cylinder motorcycle being made in India!

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Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

All that is explainable... But still, the engine part can be elaborated by Honda.
The Bore Stroke is 67x46mm, up from 67x42.5mm of the Hornet or the CBR 600F. So, its comparatively longer stroke, but seems to be the same engine.

But the same thing done on a RTR 160 made it higher powered.
Same thing on the Ninja 250R made it higher powered.
And the CBF 650F loses its power on being long stroked? So, are we to conclude its just de-tuned for fuel quality or low end torque?


As for the last line, I believe the market is ready for a decently priced low quantity inline 4.

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India


CBR650F is a stroked out version of CBR600F. (EU Spec links: CBR600F | Honda/2014 and CBR650F | Honda/2014 )
CBR600F: 67 x 42.5 mm and CBR650F: 67 x 46 mm

Also compression ratio is 12:1 in the 600 and it is 11.4:1 in the 650.

Then the 650 is tuned for 63 NM at 8K rpm while the 600 revs higher and makes 64 NM at 10500 rpm

Thus the detuning. Personally I find this bike rather unappealing.

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

Thanks. Got the point. I must have seen the specs. So, there's actually more spread of torque atleast in the midrange, that's a good news.

Yes, of course, not too appealing overall. But since its the first domestic inline 4, we can excuse it... Not too bad overall though, in my opinion.

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Great news. Next, a made in India 600RR under 7L please

Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

Why is this news coming out now? HMSI had said way back during the Auto expo launch that it will be manufactured in India and sold under 7 lakhs OTR. IIRC the engine will be imported and assembled onto everything else that is manufactured locally just like the CBR 150R. I went through all their import data list for the last 2 years and noticed that they only wanted to sell 200 units of CBR 150Rs a month and thus imported 200 units of 150R engines every month from April 2012 till last month. Any time the demand went higher, the next month they imported more engines to offset the numbers. So HMSI would charge a premium on the 150R and therefore i can also see the same rule applying to the 650F.

HMSI and Honda Thailand sold the 250R for identical prices when they were manufactured in both countries. So if we can use that as a reference, the CBR650F manufactured in Thailand is on sale for 5.6 lakhs rupees ex showroom. Now if HMSI was to import the engine, it would charge a premium to offset the cost just like with the 150R. The ex showroom price for this bike will easily be around the 5.8-6.2 lakh mark which pretty much corresponds to the figure HMSI gave during the Auto expo after yanking their Japanese official back who at first said 6 lakh rupees and was told to correct his figure to under 7 lakhs. If the engine is localized then we can expect the bike to be priced just over 5 lakhs. But 4 is definitely asking too much
Inline 4 from the Hornet which was basically a detuned 2007 CBR 600RR now with a longer stroke, less power, more midrange torque, 50-60mpg + ABS + turbine wheels + Nissin Brakes.
I have also seen a CBR 500R imported for R&D purpose a few months ago. I think HMSI has plans to bridge the gap between the 250 and the 650 later on. I posted the import bill in the 500 thread if anyone wants to see. Honda has imported 3 650Fs overall in the last 2 years for R&D purpose.


I have been all over the 650F's International forums from all the countries they are on sale.
Here's a good demonstration of the 650F's capabilities on a Thai freeway: Standard = Stock

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Is it just me or does the bike actually jump from 48 to 88 kmph directly?


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Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

During the Auto Expo 2014, Honda had said that this bike would be 'assembled' in India. This is the first time they have said 'manufacture'. Difference!