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  • #31
    Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

    You get what you pay for. The quality has to be top notch for an 600+. Cc bike as safety issues are also involved. Bike should be priced in the 6 lakhs range with all the honda quality built in. I don't believe honda will give a cheap inline 4 made for india. My guess price will be 5.5 to 6.5 lakhs with true honda quality.
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    • #32
      Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

      hope bajaj steals the show with ktm at less than 4 lakhs. There are many brothers in arms waiting for this sub 4 lakhs 80+ horses...
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      • #33
        Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

        Even if it costs equal to Ninja 650, I will be happy to pay for Honda 650, simply because it is worth that much, Ninja650 pays a substantial amount out of the MRP to the govt as the tax due to CKD route. A made in India bike costing the same will have better technology if it is at the same price, as the govt tax part will be considerably less in the MRP.

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        • #34
          Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

          Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
          Why is this news coming out now? HMSI had said way back during the Auto expo launch that it will be manufactured in India and sold under 7 lakhs OTR. IIRC the engine will be imported and assembled onto everything else that is manufactured locally just like the CBR 150R. I went through all their import data list for the last 2 years and noticed that they only wanted to sell 200 units of CBR 150Rs a month and thus imported 200 units of 150R engines every month from April 2012 till last month. Any time the demand went higher, the next month they imported more engines to offset the numbers. So HMSI would charge a premium on the 150R and therefore i can also see the same rule applying to the 650F.

          HMSI and Honda Thailand sold the 250R for identical prices when they were manufactured in both countries. So if we can use that as a reference, the CBR650F manufactured in Thailand is on sale for 5.6 lakhs rupees ex showroom. ]
          I think India has/had a free trade agreement with Thailand.
          Lesser taxes or no taxes between both the countries.

          Whatever it is Honda will try to price it premium only so expecting it to be a vfm will turn out like what happened to CBR 250. When it was launched it was considered to be a vfm when compared to N250 and now things have changed .

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          • #35
            Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

            Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post
            I think India has/had a free trade agreement with Thailand.
            Lesser taxes or no taxes between both the countries.

            Whatever it is Honda will try to price it premium only so expecting it to be a vfm will turn out like what happened to CBR 250. When it was launched it was considered to be a vfm when compared to N250 and now things have changed .
            Yeah, I agree with you. Knowing Honda, they will surely price it higher than the Ninja even though the CBR is made in India. Since they are the first to launch an inline 4 650cc in India, Honda is going to milk the opportunity and I'm sure it'll be priced up there with the Z800 and it'll still find takers thanks to the fact that it is going to be the cheapest fully faired inline 4 in India. Expecting it to be priced in the 5-6L range is just wishful thinking.

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            • #36
              Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

              If it is indeed manufactured in India then 5-6L at current prices is not cheap by any means and is a good price range IMO. Roughly they would approach a lakh/100cc ratio, of course with some exceptions.
              If they take until 2016 to bring it out then yes, it can cost more.

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              • #37
                Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                as always the price speculation has started by all 'price gurus' I see with every 250CC and more capacity bike we people start bidding as high as possible. Luckily nobody has yet mentioned 7,8 lack to maintain exclusivity
                Yes till date,India has not seen decently priced 500cc/1000cc bike. I dont understand why do we bike enthusiastic should generalize this for all future products ? Why do you guys believe 5,6 l is necessary to produce good quality bike ? For example take Honda Brio for example. Its sold in Thailand and India. In India it starts at 4 lacks INR ex showroom. Whereas in Thailand it starts at 8 lacks INR. Now CBR650R priced at 5,6 lacks in Thailand. By this calculation Honda can easily sell this bike 3-4 lacks(Yes 2.5 l ex showroom is possible,but lets add 1 lack premium) without compromising quality. I know by present scenario, this is optimistic figure,but it is certainly possible considering Honda sells 1000CC inline 4 car for 4 lacks.Remember this bike would be made in India. Why do people believe this bike to cost more than I4 Honda car ? So I request all fellow members to stop this 5,6 l price speculation and give wrong signal to Honda marketing people that people are ready to buy this at such price(Yes marketing people do visit forums). As I have mentioned Honda can sell it 3-4 lack ex showroom or even cheaper considering R&D cost is already recovered. This bike could be holy grail for Indian bikes considering I4 engine,low end torque ,comfortable seating position and made in India. Do lets stop ruining the dream by upper bidding.

                PS : All prices I am talking about are ex showroom,without any taxes
                Last edited by 1235sam; 10-21-2014, 04:13 PM.

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                • #38
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                  ^^^3-4 L for an I4? Where were the same Honda engineers when all forums cried foul over CBR 150R's pricing?
                  I don't think one can get 4 cylinders from Honda (HMSI) <5L at all. Purely my opinion!

                  And comparing it to a Brio isn't fair. A Suzuki Swift and Hayabusa have "identical" 4 pot 1.3L engines. Swift makes ~90 hp and Busa ~190. Not fair, right?
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                  • #39
                    Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                    Originally posted by 1235sam View Post
                    . Do lets stop ruining the dream by upper bidding.
                    Its good to be optimistic bro..but 3L for a I4 manufactured in India is like snowfall in Sahara
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                    • #40
                      Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      ^^^3-4 L for an I4? Where were the same Honda engineers when all forums cried foul over CBR 150R's pricing?
                      I don't think one can get 4 cylinders from Honda (HMSI) <5L at all. Purely my opinion!

                      And comparing it to a Brio isn't fair. A Suzuki Swift and Hayabusa have "identical" 4 pot 1.3L engines. Swift makes ~90 hp and Busa ~190. Not fair, right?
                      But then CBR650 makes less BHP than Brio. I took Brio as example because it is also manufactured and sold in both Thailand and India. All I want to to say it is possible to sell it 3,4 lack whereas people believe 5,6 lack is required. Whether Honda would sell it that cheap is all together different thing.

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                      Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                      Its good to be optimistic bro..but 3L for a I4 manufactured in India is like snowfall in Sahara
                      I know 3 lack is optimistic. But 4 lack ex showroom even considering Honda premium is certainly possible. It is just that Indian high end market isnt competitive enough, we believe we force ourselves to not to believe in such pricing.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        ^^^3-4 L for an I4? Where were the same Honda engineers when all forums cried foul over CBR 150R's pricing?
                        I don't think one can get 4 cylinders from Honda (HMSI) <5L at all. Purely my opinion!

                        And comparing it to a Brio isn't fair. A Suzuki Swift and Hayabusa have "identical" 4 pot 1.3L engines. Swift makes ~90 hp and Busa ~190. Not fair, right?
                        If made in India then a price range of 3 - 4 L is not impossible as this is a budget motorcycle. Considering this bike has a MSRP if $8,499.00 and according to latest Exchange rates it is roughly 5,18,000 Gandhis.

                        Many parts of CBR 150R and 250R are imported from Thailand. Adding to the additional costs.
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                        • #42
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                          If honda decides to manufacture 650 in India it is indeed a good sign, but to expect it to be priced at 3-4L is plain ridiculous. Expect it to be priced at par with the kwacker/hyosung if not higher.

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                          • #43
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                            • #44
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                              Any idea what will be the FI system being used in this machine. Is it Keihin ?
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                              • #45
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                                I have an owner's manual and parts manual 2 years before i even make a purchase.
                                This will be my last bike and i will go back to being what i originally was, a car guy

                                To answer your question @TheArcher84
                                Yes the bike uses PGM-Fi with Keihin KN7SJ fuel injectors
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