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  • #76
    Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
    Well, they might plan to make India as the Manufacturing point for the CBR650F and export it to other countries.. Just a thought
    Its already being done somewhere else..

    What would be the need to re-invent the wheel?





    Last edited by payeng; 11-11-2014, 04:08 PM.

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    • #77
      Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Well, I guess VFM was not a good choice of word in this context. I should have said "meaningful".
      With the thousands of issues in the Daytona with one rider here in BLR, I'd prefer the Honda with an extra cylinder as generally they have better (perceived) reliability.

      EDIT - Of course, I can't head to the track as:
      1. There are only few, far way!
      2. I am a long distance commuter.
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      • #78
        Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

        Originally posted by payeng View Post
        Food for Thought: Will the CBR650F make enough numbers (even) if manufactured in India and priced at (lets consider) 5-6 lakhs so that the vendors as well as the dealers and manufacturer make enough money?
        That's true, every manufacturer wants to put their foot down in this ever growing premium segment. Honda currently sells around 100+ units (CBU) per year with all their models. CBR650 is a risk taken by them, they want to learn the art of assembling and selling premium bikes in India to grow their market like N650. N650 is doing good numbers.
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        • #79
          Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

          Originally posted by payeng View Post
          Its already being done somewhere else..

          What would be the need to re-invent the wheel?





          may be to have the infrastructure and logistics ready as and when the market picks up. Which looks like a reality in not so far future. This could also be a brand building exercise which they plan to build up on some time later. CBR250 got not so good positive feedback regarding their manufacturing ability. This could be a way to drive home a point.

          Lots of reasons Payeng...

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          • #80
            Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

            Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
            This could be a way to drive home a point.
            One doesn't risk crores of investment in Business just to "Drive Home a Point".. that too at a time when its numbers are touching record highs (thanks to the Activa and likes) every month.

            I can image the Top Bosses at Honda Japan be like: "Show results with the CBR250R first... then suggest manufacturing the CBR650"



            Last edited by payeng; 11-11-2014, 05:26 PM.

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            • #81
              Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

              Originally posted by payeng View Post
              One doesn't risk crores of investment in Business just to "Drive Home a Point".. that too at a time when its numbers are touching record highs (thanks to the Activa and likes) every month.

              I can image the Top Bosses at Honda Japan be like: "Show results with the CBR250R first... then suggest manufacturing the CBR650"


              Thats the point Payeng. CBR didnt set the charts on fire. Plus India is developing into a manufacturing centre for most manufacturers. Why not Honda then? It sure is the right step in the right direction. Some may see it some may not.

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              • #82
                Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                Thats the point Payeng. CBR didnt set the charts on fire. Plus India is developing into a manufacturing centre for most manufacturers. Why not Honda then? It sure is the right step in the right direction. Some may see it some may not.
                That's true, If CKD is having a good response initially, then definitely they should have a plant with manufacturing capability as well.
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                • #83
                  Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                  “India is still a predominantly commuter motorcycle market but we are looking to tap the higher-end, enthusiasts segment. Our aim is to make the high-end segment affordable by assemb1ling in India,” HMSI President and CEO Keita Muramatsu is quoted by PTI as saying.
                  “We will launch our CBR 650 model in the first half of next year. This will be assembled in India,” he further added.

                  Source: Honda to assemble high-end bikes in India| ZigWheels.com

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                  • #84
                    Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                    Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                    Source: Honda to assemble high-end bikes in India| ZigWheels.com
                    Wonderful news. But how reliable are they??

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                    • #85
                      Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                      Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                      Wonderful news. But how reliable are they??

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                      Sad news. Earlier there was talk of building it here itself.

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                      • #86
                        Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                        Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                        Sad news. Earlier there was talk of building it here itself.
                        Woops. Misunderstood.. yes. They will be initially brought in the CKD.. later they will manufacture it here if i remember..

                        Otherwise, bad news

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                        • #87
                          Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Wonderful news. But how reliable are they??
                          Hope they are not like issues in quality like in street 750, where Harley localized most of them for cost cutting measure. Hopefully Honda is aware of all these and give a product that's VFM
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                          • #88
                            Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                            Its a sad fact that once something gets made in India, the first thing which is evident is lack of quality- so much for "make in India" logo. Quality is something driven by end users and since we people value jugaad the most what we end up getting is also jugaad.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                              Originally posted by sparky View Post
                              Its a sad fact that once something gets made in India, the first thing which is evident is lack of quality- so much for "make in India" logo. Quality is something driven by end users and since we people value jugaad the most what we end up getting is also jugaad.

                              Lack of quality is not a personal choice for the manufacturer nor is it a country's lack of good skilled workforce.
                              Its public demand bro. I know you'll not agree with the statement and say that we want good quality stuff too. But we want good quality stuff at lower prices (sometimes lower than actual manufacturing cost). We want the best technology but only if its not too complex and can be replaced or repaired not easily but cheaply. This very attitude of our countrymen has resulted in good products being either premium or altogether unavailable in our country.
                              Honda had such amazing quality when the first unicorn was launched but ever since the quality has steadily declined. But we do have to acknowledge the fact that the bike's cost hasn't increased all that much since it was launched.
                              Cost and quality go hand in hand and the lower the cost the lower the quality.
                              But I doubt Honda will ever reduce the price that much for a premium segment product for its price to fall.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Honda to produce CBR650 in India

                                Originally posted by Balgi View Post
                                Lack of quality is not a personal choice for the manufacturer nor is it a country's lack of good skilled workforce.
                                Its public demand bro. I know you'll not agree with the statement and say that we want good quality stuff too. But we want good quality stuff at lower prices (sometimes lower than actual manufacturing cost). We want the best technology but only if its not too complex and can be replaced or repaired not easily but cheaply. This very attitude of our countrymen has resulted in good products being either premium or altogether unavailable in our country.
                                Honda had such amazing quality when the first unicorn was launched but ever since the quality has steadily declined. But we do have to acknowledge the fact that the bike's cost hasn't increased all that much since it was launched.
                                Cost and quality go hand in hand and the lower the cost the lower the quality.
                                But I doubt Honda will ever reduce the price that much for a premium segment product for its price to fall.
                                That's exactly what I said, its driven by customers and we value price at the cost of quality even for marginal difference in value. Take the example of Duracell- we don't mind buying a Novino cell 4 times in a row which costs 40 bucks in total but hesitate to buy a Duracell which costs 25 bucks but lasts as long or even more.

                                I know I have a Uni from 2006 which has been touch wood till today and the engine runs like butter. I think I'm going to keep it for a long long time.

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