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**rishii** · 03-30-2015, 07:46 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Not in India.

when can we xpect black in India ??

**mindless_wanderer** · 03-30-2015, 08:03 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by deuxBEER View Post

No. Of channels define the discrete controlling mechanisms available to stop the wheels without locking. On ABS equipped vehicle, there are two things to consider; sensors & control channels. If this pulsar is having single channel ABS it means that both the wheels are controlled by single channel.

Example, Using sensors ABS has decided that it would take x+y units of force to stop front wheel w/o locking and x for rear wheel. Had there been 2 channels ABS would used those forces independently on the 2 wheels. Since there is only 1 channel, ABS sends out only x amount of force to both the wheels. If ABS sends x+y to both the wheels rear would lock and fishtale. Either way the stopping distance increases if #channels are not equal to #wheels.

Single channel works best if weight on both wheels is equal. Driver can adjust his sitting position to arrive at equal weight distribution position.

So what this essentially means is that in this case the rear would stop at its best (since X is the force required for rear and that is what is transmitted through ABS) and so no fish tailing even during panic braking but Front would be sent less force to stop and hence would take longer to stop (no wheel lock out as well) ??..

**Divya Sharan** · 03-30-2015, 09:53 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by rishii View Post

when can we xpect black in India ??

No news on it so far!

**princesirohi** · 03-30-2015, 10:11 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by mindless_wanderer View Post

so about the single channel abs with a second sensor on the rear wheel (to prevent rear wheel lift off during braking)..
Does this mean that in case of panic breaking the front wont lock but the rear does and the bike fishtails?.. (if thats the case then what good is the ABS here??)..

Front brake will not lock since it is controlled by ABS but rear brake may lock depending on how much pressure is applied to rear brake. So rear wheel may fishtail if it locks up. But it is still better than having no ABS at all coz if rear brake locks up, rider can still control the bike.. BUT if front brake locks up even rossi cant control it. If front locks up there is 99.99% chances of a fall but if rear locks up there is stil 50 - 50 chances and bike may not fall. Also remember 90% braking power comes from front wheel, so even a single channel ABS will perform better than no ABS at all and will definitly reduce braking distance and prevent some accidents.

Originally posted by deuxBEER View Post

No. Of channels define the discrete controlling mechanisms available to stop the wheels without locking. On ABS equipped vehicle, there are two things to consider; sensors & control channels. If this pulsar is having single channel ABS it means that both the wheels are controlled by single channel.

Example, Using sensors ABS has decided that it would take x+y units of force to stop front wheel w/o locking and x for rear wheel. Had there been 2 channels ABS would used those forces independently on the 2 wheels. Since there is only 1 channel, ABS sends out only x amount of force to both the wheels. If ABS sends x+y to both the wheels rear would lock and fishtale. Either way the stopping distance increases if #channels are not equal to #wheels.

Single channel works best if weight on both wheels is equal. Driver can adjust his sitting position to arrive at equal weight distribution position.

Originally posted by mindless_wanderer View Post

So what this essentially means is that in this case the rear would stop at its best (since X is the force required for rear and that is what is transmitted through ABS) and so no fish tailing even during panic braking but Front would be sent less force to stop and hence would take longer to stop (no wheel lock out as well) ??..

No, it does not work like that. Single channel ABS means ABS controls only front wheel. The rear wheel sensor is an additional sensor to prevent rear wheel lift off during heavy braking. So if somebody is trying to do a stoppie, and applies only front brake heavily the sensors will sense that only front brake is applies and rear wheel is rotating freely while taking off the ground, then ABS will reduce the braking force on front brake thereby bringing the rear wheel down and preventing a frontal rollover or other similar unpleasant situation.
However in panic braking situations, a rider is expected to apply both brakes and if rear wheel skids, the amount of braking power going to front wheel remains unaffected and will depend only on front wheel sensor... Thereby reducing the braking distance and or imminent front wheel lock.

Single channel ABS system is still better than no ABS at all, however it is not as good as a dual channel system. single channel ABS assumes that rider knows that most of braking power comes from front brake, if somebody tries to stop the bike by applying rear brake only then this system will not help him.

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**Divya Sharan** · 03-30-2015, 10:16 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

if somebody tries to stop the bike by applying rear brake only then this system will not help him.

Absolutely correct!
+1 to the entire post. (even the un-quoted part)

This is where Honda's C-ABS works like a charm. If the rider only slams the rear pedal in panic, C-ABS ensures that the braking force is distributed evenly to both wheels, dare I say a bit front biased!

**satyenpoojary** · 03-30-2015, 11:55 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by Jazzy_the_rider View Post

As far as i remember, I've seen it on powerdrift that any bike not having an option to switch off the abs manually can be switched off with 30 sec of burnout.

No No! Its not so for every bike!

**princesirohi** · 03-31-2015, 01:31 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

There is a small video our friend [MENTION=27122]kochumvk[/MENTION] did, while we were checking out the bike, and later rode it.

Hope, you will like it->

http://youtu.be/BMlmrzJI5qQ

Pulsar RS 200 First Impressions - details

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BMlmrzJI5qQ&feature=youtu.be#

Long waited Pulsar RS 200 is launched finally.Displacement(cc) 199.5Max power(PS @ RPM) 24.5 @ 9750Max torque(Nm @RPM) 18.6 @ 8000Fuel Tank 13LKerb Weight 16...

Posting from mobile, so dont know whether link will work properly.

in the video, there is a part where he says that mirrors are not good, but they were not properly adjusted, as found ouy during the ride, mirrors when adjusted works ok.

But yes they dont extend out as much as in some other full faired bikes.

One more thing, the exhaust note is just slightly better than NS, coz its little bit more bassy, but i think due to this that high RPM characteristic sound is also reduced. Last line is part observation part guesswork, coz i couldn't rev it to redline in 3rd gear, and that is where NS sound best.

You can listen to the exhaust note in the video.

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**Jazzy_the_rider** · 03-31-2015, 01:47 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

No No! Its not so for every bike!

Thank you for correcting. My bad.

**Nihil Wadhwani** · 03-31-2015, 11:44 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Was really waiting for Black or Blue, there are so many like us waiting for these colors. Doesnt Make sense why Bajaj Went with Launching in only Two colors... Wanted to pick up the bike on the first day of launch in blore, but now holding up plans till black is launched... !!! Feeling Disappointed, waited too long for this to arrive and now have to wait for my color ..

**mindless_wanderer** · 03-31-2015, 01:46 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

Front brake will not lock since it is controlled by ABS but rear brake may lock depending on how much pressure is applied to rear brake. So rear wheel may fishtail if it locks up. But it is still better than having no ABS at all coz if rear brake locks up, rider can still control the bike.. BUT if front brake locks up even rossi cant control it. If front locks up there is 99.99% chances of a fall but if rear locks up there is stil 50 - 50 chances and bike may not fall. Also remember 90% braking power comes from front wheel, so even a single channel ABS will perform better than no ABS at all and will definitly reduce braking distance and prevent some accidents.

No, it does not work like that. Single channel ABS means ABS controls only front wheel. The rear wheel sensor is an additional sensor to prevent rear wheel lift off during heavy braking. So if somebody is trying to do a stoppie, and applies only front brake heavily the sensors will sense that only front brake is applies and rear wheel is rotating freely while taking off the ground, then ABS will reduce the braking force on front brake thereby bringing the rear wheel down and preventing a frontal rollover or other similar unpleasant situation.
However in panic braking situations, a rider is expected to apply both brakes and if rear wheel skids, the amount of braking power going to front wheel remains unaffected and will depend only on front wheel sensor... Thereby reducing the braking distance and or imminent front wheel lock.

Single channel ABS system is still better than no ABS at all, however it is not as good as a dual channel system. single channel ABS assumes that rider knows that most of braking power comes from front brake, if somebody tries to stop the bike by applying rear brake only then this system will not help him.

This helps.. thanks..
Wouldnt be of much help for me maybe since i mess up with my braking during panic situations and go rear heavy.. the front has never locked up till date for me but the rear fishtails (2-3% of the time)..
5 hazaar aur le lete and dual channel hi de dete.. why be a miser on that..

**Anuj_Gupta** · 04-01-2015, 08:05 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Went to see rs in person. Few pointers
1. By the looks ,quality seems to be at par or EVEN 1% More than Rc 200 (not sure about running quality, btw I own a RC)
2. ABS IS DUAL, BOTH FRONT+REAR IS ABS'ED.
3. sitting is like 80% RC and handlebars are like 70% R15. it will be fun to see how its riding stance will be.
4. Bike looks very grounded (wrt Ns) ,and from rider seat to rear no plate ,it looks very short in length.
5. Console is very neat .(ek no.)
6. Led indicators and headlights are also very fantastic, the hegemony of 220 as greatest oem Indian headlight bike are over.
7. Despite being 20kg heavier, bike looks like of 120-130kg weight by looks.
6. Overall ,it is surely a fan magnet.
Will take a TD after week .
Btw
Non abs will cost 15000 more than 200ns and if you don't love faring, then only buy ns, otherwise rs is very good.
Bajaj you've nailed it again.

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**mindless_wanderer** · 04-01-2015, 08:12 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View Post

Went to see rs in person. Few pointers
1. By the looks ,quality seems to be at par or EVEN 1% More than Rc 200 (not sure about running quality, btw I own a RC)
2. ABS IS DUAL, BOTH FRONT+REAR IS ABS'ED.
3. sitting is like 80% RC and handlebars are like 70% R15. it will be fun to see how its riding stance will be.
4. Bike looks very grounded (wrt Ns) ,and from rider seat to rear no plate ,it looks very short in length.
5. Console is very neat .(ek no.)
6. Led indicators and headlights are also very fantastic, the hegemony of 220 as greatest oem Indian headlight bike are over.
7. Despite being 20kg heavier, bike looks like of 120-130kg weight by looks.
6. Overall ,it is surely a fan magnet.
Will take a TD after week .
Btw
Non abs will cost 15000 more than 200ns and if you don't love faring, then only buy ns, otherwise rs is very good.
Bajaj you've nailed it again.

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awesome.. when you say ABS is on both wheels do you mean the ABS sensor on the discs or ABS activated and working on both wheels??
Single channel ABS tells a different story as discussed on the page before..

**Anuj_Gupta** · 04-01-2015, 08:20 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by mindless_wanderer View Post

awesome.. when you say ABS is on both wheels do you mean the ABS sensor on the discs or ABS activated and working on both wheels??
Single channel ABS tells a different story as discussed on the page before..

Sorry, I don't have confirmation but it seems that rear is only havibg a sensor .

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**mindless_wanderer** · 04-01-2015, 08:24 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View Post

Sorry, I don't have confirmation but it seems that rear is only havibg a sensor .

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hmmm... guessed as much..

**Dragon prince** · 04-01-2015, 08:34 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS200 Launched @ Rs 1.18 Lakhs

It's just a guess I hope wait until the real specs unveiled. Me too waiting let's see

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