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**tanishq** · 12-13-2017, 06:59 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by jazzysaravana View Post

So they also suggest the 0-100 kmph comes around 6.1/6.2 seconds like Powerdrift. But TVS and many others claim 7.1 seconds. Wonder who is closer to the real number..

Tvs is too modest !! They just give the best timings which even noobs can achieve.

**tirebuster** · 12-13-2017, 10:01 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Tvs is too modest !! They just give the best timings which even noobs can achieve.

TVS tends to arrive at these figures with heavier than average riders. This could just be a tactic to make promises they can keep (instead of advertising quick numbers only to be discovered later as "false" by disappointed buyers).

Being a short stroke engine, the performance is great throughout the rev range, but it comes with the caveat that performance drops rapidly as you increase the weight/load or ride uphill (like a heavy built rider, or extra luggage). The opposite is true for the long stroke (under square) engines typically seen in bobbers and cruisers such as the REs that are not designed to go fast. Because of the huge torque, here is no significant drop in performance when you add unreasonable amount of weight to the motorcycle or when you're riding in a steep uphill incline.

**tanishq** · 12-13-2017, 10:07 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tirebuster View Post

TVS tends to arrive at these figures with heavier than average riders. This could just be a tactic to make promises they can keep (instead of advertising quick numbers only to be discovered later as "false" by disappointed buyers).

Being a short stroke engine, the performance is great throughout the rev range, but it comes with the caveat that performance drops rapidly as you increase the weight/load or ride uphill (like a heavy built rider, or extra luggage). The opposite is true for the long stroke (under square) engines typically seen in bobbers and cruisers such as the REs that are not designed to go fast. Because of the huge torque, here is no significant drop in performance when you add unreasonable amount of weight to the motorcycle or when you're riding in a steep uphill incline.

Totally agreed with ur point!!... Powerdrift already shown the vbox no. & As far as motorbeam video is concerned they just simply posted the TVS claimed timings & titled the video as 0-100kmph test speed....

**tirebuster** · 12-13-2017, 10:22 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Totally agreed with ur point!!... Powerdrift already shown the vbox no. & As far as motorbeam video is concerned they just simply posted the TVS claimed timings & titled the video as 0-100kmph test speed....

Exactly. It is possible that they used the official figures instead of using a handheld timer and doing an honest test.

If there are any skinnier folks here (60 Kg or under) that are getting the bike, please post your 0-60, 0-100 times here. I'm sure it'll be faster than even the aggressive Powerdrift figures of 6+ seconds. That's one of the things with short stroke engines. Any reduction in weight will translate to significant performance gain.

So if you're into drag racing on a track (not road racing) and if you really watch your weight, I feel that with this bike, you could take on a KTM RC 390 in a drag race. You need to carefully size-up the Duke 390 rider and ONLY RACE HIM IF the person looks about 15 - 20 Kgs heavier than you. That extra weight should even out the power advantage the 390 has over the RR 310. Again, it's just the way these short strokes work. Weight really matters when you're looking to close gaps in performance figures - for ex. in a race situation.

**tanishq** · 12-13-2017, 10:30 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tirebuster View Post

Exactly. It is possible that they used the official figures instead of using a handheld timer and doing an honest test.

If there are any skinnier folks here (60 Kg or under) that are getting the bike, please post your 0-60, 0-100 times here. I'm sure it'll be faster than even the aggressive Powerdrift figures of 6+ seconds. That's one of the things with short stroke engines. Any reduction in weight will translate to significant performance gain.

So if you're into drag racing on a track (not road racing) and if you really watch your weight, I feel that with this bike, you could take on a KTM RC 390 in a drag race. You need to carefully size-up the Duke 390 rider and ONLY RACE HIM IF the person looks about 15 - 20 Kgs heavier than you. That extra weight should even out the power advantage the Duke 390 has over the RR 310. Again, it's just the way these short strokes work. Weight really matters when you're looking to close gaps in performance figures - for ex. in a race situation.

Just wait for the Powerdrift road review everything will be clear!! As far as motorbeam timings are concerned they are pros in giving out misleading info to there viewers & when someone confront abt there authenticity of there video they just start making excuses. Like in this video....
Thats the reason majority of ppl gets confused

**Doga** · 12-14-2017, 04:00 AM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tirebuster View Post

Exactly. It is possible that they used the official figures instead of using a handheld timer and doing an honest test.

If there are any skinnier folks here (60 Kg or under) that are getting the bike, please post your 0-60, 0-100 times here. I'm sure it'll be faster than even the aggressive Powerdrift figures of 6+ seconds. That's one of the things with short stroke engines. Any reduction in weight will translate to significant performance gain.

So if you're into drag racing on a track (not road racing) and if you really watch your weight, I feel that with this bike, you could take on a KTM RC 390 in a drag race. You need to carefully size-up the Duke 390 rider and ONLY RACE HIM IF the person looks about 15 - 20 Kgs heavier than you. That extra weight should even out the power advantage the 390 has over the RR 310. Again, it's just the way these short strokes work. Weight really matters when you're looking to close gaps in performance figures - for ex. in a race situation.

Where do folks in India who are into drag racing on a track go? I mean which track?

**jazzysaravana** · 12-14-2017, 11:20 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

If I remember correctly, one of the showrooms in Chennai said Test Rides will begin tomorrow. Let's see if they call me.

**ani2607** · 12-15-2017, 12:51 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Went to Hare Krishna TVS yesterday. They said they have around 25 bookings only so far and they are quoting 90 days waiting period as even they don't how many bikes are being allotted to them. The good thing is 5000 booking amount is fully refundable. Being the only dealer in Mumbai, I think they will allotted more bikes !

**sshinde555** · 12-15-2017, 01:09 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by ani2607 View Post

Went to Hare Krishna TVS yesterday. They said they have around 25 bookings only so far and they are quoting 90 days waiting period as even they don't how many bikes are being allotted to them. The good thing is 5000 booking amount is fully refundable. Being the only dealer in Mumbai, I think they will allotted more bikes !

Yes you are right, so booked this beast in RED color on last Friday, by paying Rs.5k as token amount, & now waiting for their call

**g.1** · 12-15-2017, 02:09 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by sshinde555 View Post

Yes you are right, so booked this beast in RED color on last Friday, by paying Rs.5k as token amount, & now waiting for their call

Any idea when deliveries will begin in Mumbai and also Test Drives ?

**sshinde555** · 12-15-2017, 03:48 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by g.1 View Post

Any idea when deliveries will begin in Mumbai and also Test Drives ?

As per sales person deliveries will be started in month of jan & test drive will be available on 25th Dec.

**tirebuster** · 12-15-2017, 10:19 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by Doga View Post

Where do folks in India who are into drag racing on a track go? I mean which track?

While in Chennai, I used to go to the MMSC (back then it was called the MMRT (or) Irungattukottai Race Track) with friends. We raced our sub 200cc motorcycles there. I've also seen drag races on an under-construction unused link road between ECR and OMR (in 2007-08). Now the road is in full-fledged use.

If you're in Chennai, join them: http://www.madrasmotorsports.in/memb...ent=Membership

It is an old track, 50+ years old to be precise, but it is also the birthplace of India's Motorsport. This race track gave us three F1 drivers and many F3 drivers.
The membership ID used to be a very basic laminated ID card in 2007-08 when I last went there, not sure if they're doing anything fancy now. Just call them and find out about track days for members when you can do laps with your own bikes.

You just need to look around. You'll find safe places to race.

Update:

Now, the MMRT / MMSC has designated track days for everyone (not just members). They will also rent you the motorcycles you want.

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https://auto.ndtv.com/news/now-rent-a-race-car-or-bike-for-track-days-at-mmrt-starting-at-rs-1000-1768047

**Doga** · 12-16-2017, 09:01 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by tirebuster View Post

While in Chennai, I used to go to the MMSC (back then it was called the MMRT (or) Irungattukottai Race Track) with friends. We raced our sub 200cc motorcycles there. I've also seen drag races on an under-construction unused link road between ECR and OMR (in 2007-08). Now the road is in full-fledged use.

If you're in Chennai, join them: MMSC Membership Forms | Madras Motor Sports Club

It is an old track, 50+ years old to be precise, but it is also the birthplace of India's Motorsport. This race track gave us three F1 drivers and many F3 drivers.
The membership ID used to be a very basic laminated ID card in 2007-08 when I last went there, not sure if they're doing anything fancy now. Just call them and find out about track days for members when you can do laps with your own bikes.

You just need to look around. You'll find safe places to race.

Update:

Now, the MMRT / MMSC has designated track days for everyone (not just members). They will also rent you the motorcycles you want.
https://auto.ndtv.com/news/now-rent-...s-1000-1768047

sure but drag races on under-construction unused roads is not really drag racing on tracks no? Truth is there are no drag trips in India or at least I am not aware of it.
And if there are or crop up in future then no one will buy 300cc single for drag racing.Someone who is into it will shop around for something bigger with heaps of torque. May be buy a used beat up big bike and then spend money on extending the swing arm etc.
I understand you can have heaps of fun on a small bike on a track but a drag strip is totally different..

**tirebuster** · 12-16-2017, 09:17 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Originally posted by Doga View Post

sure but drag races on under-construction unused roads is not really drag racing on tracks no? Truth is there are no drag trips in India or at least I am not aware of it.
And if there are or crop up in future then no one will buy 300cc single for drag racing.Someone who is into it will shop around for something bigger with heaps of torque. May be buy a used beat up big bike and then spend money on extending the swing arm etc.
I understand you can have heaps of fun on a small bike on a track but a drag strip is totally different..

1. I do not endorse racing on the highway - no matter how empty, or completely unused. I mentioned that I saw people doing it.

2. India is still a very poor country where a vast majority of the population still considers a 150cc motorcycle premium. So Im not going to comment on the tangential discussion about whether or not 300 cc will be popular for drag racing vs. people buying it vs. other things of that nature.

3. If dedicated Drag Strips are what you're looking for India has NONE that I know of. It does have race tracks with long straight stretches good enough for drag racing. I went to the track to do laps. Circuit racing. We did have the occasional drag races on track to determine the best 0 - 100 times of motorcycles of various makes.

The amount of fun depends on the rider. You asked me a question, I answered. Gave you some options available in India for drag racing. I don't want to get dragged into these useless beating-the-dead-horse discussions about which tracks are better and which engines are great for drag racing etc.

**jazzysaravana** · 12-17-2017, 12:03 PM

Re: TVS Apache RR310 Launched at 2.05 Lakh Ex-Showroom!

Hi guys,

Got this message yesterday from SBM Motors, Chennai. Planning to visit after lunch. Their open till 5pm today.

Cheers!

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