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  • #91
    Originally posted by karthik_R View Post
    This so called "race kit" has been a big disappointment.

    No phenominal power boost from what I hear, but nevertheless, a good initiative.
    Atleast the exhaust lookss and sounds much better than "dalda" dabbas
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
      ^^ Well, 140 on the speedo translates to a 130.2 kmph genuine ...
      Sir its actually 130.23184kph to be precise LOL
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      • #93
        one question Joel , the r15 kit gets a 296 MM disk with steel hoses , is the thin front Tyre able to cope with the Extra brake power ?
        Last edited by Puneet1; 07-01-2009, 05:44 PM.

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        • #94
          130 on MMSC track???

          Originally posted by Joel View Post
          Sir its actually 130.23184kph to be precise LOL
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          Is this 130 KM top speed on the MMSC track or the top speed attained??
          The stock R15 goes faster than 130 right??
          Owners please throw some light...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by DASCO View Post
            Is this 130 KM top speed on the MMSC track or the top speed attained??
            The stock R15 goes faster than 130 right??
            Owners please throw some light...
            hey i was just kidding at what Samarth said.
            On the track, the highest attained on the speedo was 142kph on the back straight. So now do you realise what Sri said
            I'm talking about speedo reads only.
            A stock R15 can clock even 145kph on the speedo given the road and conditions. But will take a lot of time to get there.
            And dont get confused with true speeds and speedo reads.
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            • #96
              check this overdrive article for Complete details: Yamaha Race Kit FAQ - Yamaha Race Kit FAQ - Motorcycle : Overdrive

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              • #97
                Now this is interesting from OD,
                "What do I need to do to get one?
                Store up on the money front. Yamaha is still working out the details of the sales of the kit. As of now, the plan is that you have to contact Yamaha direct to order the kit and they will have a trained mechanic fit it to your motorcycle at a dealership they specify. While the prices aren't final yet, we're expecting the FZ kit to slot in around the Rs 20,000 mark while the R15 kit could easily be as much as Rs 50-55,000. Yes, that is expensive and primarily because all the components are directly imported from Daytona in Japan. At this point, we have no confirmation of whether you can source selective parts of the kit or not. We do know that the kits aren't for road use and you will have to sign an undertaking that says more or less that you agree to not use the race kit parts on the street. We also know that the first deliveries will come by end-July or even as late as September."
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Joel View Post
                  Now this is interesting from OD,
                  "What do I need to do to get one?
                  Store up on the money front. Yamaha is still working out the details of the sales of the kit. As of now, the plan is that you have to contact Yamaha direct to order the kit and they will have a trained mechanic fit it to your motorcycle at a dealership they specify. While the prices aren't final yet, we're expecting the FZ kit to slot in around the Rs 20,000 mark while the R15 kit could easily be as much as Rs 50-55,000. Yes, that is expensive and primarily because all the components are directly imported from Daytona in Japan. At this point, we have no confirmation of whether you can source selective parts of the kit or not. We do know that the kits aren't for road use and you will have to sign an undertaking that says more or less that you agree to not use the race kit parts on the street. We also know that the first deliveries will come by end-July or even as late as September."
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                  • #99
                    For 55k , we can have an in-line twin built.

                    I know a guy who is working on a R15 and has already obtained better results in less than half of the so called "race kit" with a stock ecu ie.,

                    Expect a shoot in the next month and dont forget to see the zapped yam top guy's face
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                    • I still don't understand what is playing in Yamaha's mind.First, they said that it will be available only for track purposes.And now they are thinking of sales of those kits.Do they mean that it will be available nation-wide or down south? Because there would be not much of sales numbers if it is available only for track purpose...Joel,please enlighten!!

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                      • Though they said they will sell individual components too, I wonder whether they would be selling the adjustable footpegs&more importantly HID kit also&at what price. Any guesses?
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                        • Hey Joel I have a few questions lined up for you..

                          1) By the re-mapped ECU the bike would go all the way to 12k (or even more) rpm. Would that help?
                          I mean can we not deactivate the rev-limiter on a stock bike and let it go to 12k rpm...?

                          2)How would duralumin sprokets help.... I mean technically
                          I understand that it has a high yield strength, but how would that help in enhancing the performance. As far as I feel its the size that matters more (no of teeth that is) rather than the material.

                          3) How does a high lift camshaft increase the performance (or power in that case)?
                          The major job of a camshaft is to force open the valves, right?
                          Than how would a high lift camshaft help by getting the valves further out of the way?
                          And if et all, will this not affect the valvetrain directly..?
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                          • Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
                            Hey Joel I have a few questions lined up for you..

                            1) By the re-mapped ECU the bike would go all the way to 12k (or even more) rpm. Would that help?
                            I mean can we not deactivate the rev-limiter on a stock bike and let it go to 12k rpm...?

                            2)How would duralumin sprokets help.... I mean technically
                            I understand that it has a high yield strength, but how would that help in enhancing the performance. As far as I feel its the size that matters more (no of teeth that is) rather than the material.

                            3) How does a high lift camshaft increase the performance (or power in that case)?
                            The major job of a camshaft is to force open the valves, right?
                            Than how would a high lift camshaft help by getting the valves further out of the way?
                            And if et all, will this not affect the valvetrain directly..?

                            Am not Joel ... and will not take any shame in admitting not even remotely as close! but let me try to answer...
                            1) Technically we can, if you can hack into the EPROM and flush its value. Practically very difficult for the Dumb R15 ECU. Realistically, you can plug in a hacked\factory custom ECU. IMO the Remapped ECU from Yamaha should ideally carry more data to handle the new inventory rather than just delaying the Rev limit!
                            Heck I remember reading a conversation with Joel about the R15's stock engine being boring as compared to a RTR which is the Highest revving stock Engine in 2 and 4 Wheels in India! And delaying the Rev limit kicking in would not be as fun!

                            2) I guess weight as well.... less weight+more usable power!

                            3) I guess the more the space, the more the fuel can pour in and more the combustion and hence translating into more the energy....


                            Am I atleast close of being right, Joel?
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                            • Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
                              Hey Joel I have a few questions lined up for you..

                              1) By the re-mapped ECU the bike would go all the way to 12k (or even more) rpm. Would that help?
                              I mean can we not deactivate the rev-limiter on a stock bike and let it go to 12k rpm...?
                              Even if the ECU allows the engine to rev up to 12krpm the stock internals wont allow it. I remember speaking to Joel about this before and he menionted it in our discussions and here on xbhp -"anything above 11K RPM on R15 causes something known as 'valve float'. the stock springs (maybe stock internals as well are incapable) are not stiff-er enough to support such high rpms and in all probability will lose their capacity to function." Therefore Yamaha decided to put a cap on its revs at 10.5K rpm to play safe but as we found later on as Joel mentioned after one of his tests on the bike based on a Digital Tach, if i remember correctly showed a reading of a true 10002 rpm at cut off.

                              Joel can of course illustrate all of this better. And i think he's mentioned it before that the ECU which they are providing is not of much use as its not a race ecu and it cannot be programmed to set all the variables as required.

                              Joel himself is running some trick stuff as he has mentioned in his threads, which is better than what yamaha has on offer w.r.t engine bits and yet he's running without any mods to the ECU and i believe its not because he doesnt want to, but, because there isnt one available which will help him in his cause.

                              Besides an R15 ECU costs some 7-8K i belive, stock ECU i.e. This ECU on offer would be a waste of money and is of no value if it doesn allow us to do anything radically different than what a stock ECU does.

                              EDIT: didnt read the earlier pages and just did so now, will let my above post be.

                              @Joel: its a pity that their ECU which allows the bike to rev higher is non-programmable, they could've atleast brought something worthwhile man.


                              All that much jazz about something that wont be worth peanuts to any real track guy out there, atleast not at the price on offer. I wonder how many kits they wish to sell.

                              I'm only interested in that HID as somebody mentioned as all my attempts to source one from GOTHIDXENON has miserably failed and i'm badly in need of a better lighting on the bike.
                              Last edited by KwokFist; 07-03-2009, 03:14 AM.
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                              • but whats the excitement all about

                                this is only for track purpose and not street legal.... so anyways whats the use of waiting for it .... yamaha should have spent some more time and made it street legal

                                i think people are waiting because anyways they will use it and occasionally fill pockets of those RTO
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