Just 6 days away !

@Sachin sir:I doubt it would be a dampener Sachin sir, although make the 70k price tag more like in the range of 88-90k, ex-showroom! And yes, it WILL definitely be the fastest bike in the Indian market, atleast as far as straight line top-speed is concerned.

And do you imply it does not?





P220 upgrade and its claim seem far sighted. Bajaj always makes insane claims and then a rival co' comes up with a better product to screw their happiness. Their claims about the bhp etc etc seem too good on paper, but in the real world it makes you wonder where it all disappears. It took them years to match up to their competition (zma) and then the R15 comes along to beat it once again (beat the p220 in its claims to be the 'so and so').

Ok, there are pros and cons of each bikes, many of which are subjective but i wont divulge there. Just taking a overall perspective of things.

R15 and RTR itself gives the bike a run for its money in more than a few factors. But each of these bikes belong to different segments and are best compared in their own segments.

P220 as someone earlier said belongs to the Sport-City-Commuter-segment. that was funny. Its a awesome tourer no doubt there. Beyond that taken to its extremes be to track or in a straight line it doesn't not perform upto expectations, which may differ.

Indian company and effort is commendable and i would be honestly appreciative if they do something worthwhile this time around. Competition is good for the market but mis-leading marketing tactics are not!. If its the former i couldn't be more happier but time and again we've been subject to the latter.

I've been with Bajaj myself for far too long and ridden all the bikes from their stable. But this time they might nail themselves with their 'claims'. To the Junta what appeals is what they see and hear, to some of us here all that matters is the real world 'performance' which is again defined in many ways, to each one a different thing. Moving on...

I would be glad to be proved wrong here, but it doesn't make any difference. To me it seems like Bajaj has stopped innovating and prefers taking the easy way out with the minor upgrades and numerous marketing tactics, instead of building a solid product from ground up (read engine platform apart from a solid handling package) that stands up to all the claims made by its manufacturer. Instead of infusing brand loyalty, they seem to ward off the customers by screwing up the little exclusivity they had especially when one is shelling out so much money for a product (with reference to current owners of the pulsar range).

Would love to see our desi company come out with a solid product, just like it did back in the days when it wanted to stand up to its competitors. I have my fingers crossed.


P.S. Not here solely to make comparisons of any company/product but considering all that has been said already thought i'd share my thoughts on the matter.

I am not implying! Its been proven.....!

Arent you being self contradicting? You say they are from different segements and yet you say it gives it run for its money. If they are not in the same segement why the comparo in the first place. Its like saying the TVS Star city beat the ZMA coz it gives it a run for its money in the mileage department!

Expectations...hmmm! Did Bajaj say that its gonna be a track tool?

Its a city bike and performs right upto the expectations that it had set for itself. It accelerates the fastest out of a signal and reaches the next signal before any other Japanese or Indian can!

I thought we at xbhp speculate...... but on national TV channel ....... and no Fi ......

so again its not 300 or 350 but now the speculation is 250 with Fi......

^^+1......

sorry bro...... but what Bajaj does id always a mystery...... they themselves dnt know what they want...... they start walking and whenever n wherever they want they stop...... n tell us here is the upgrade......

that depends upon the riding condition...... but in hills, we have downhill also where we don't need to accelerate so much....... just follow the road...... so mileage might go up.......

Well said mate !! Wish Bajaj takes these lines to it's board room for brainstorming !!

Bajaj for sure will come out with a new platform, may be few years from now. But considering the current market trend; working with the already proven platform is good for Bajaj. After all, they have to sell in masses for that R&D as well.

agreed to your point....... n all criticism for Bajaj only...... what other cos. provide...... Bajaj always try to do things differently...... its not like TVS(Apache 160 n then after few years 180) or Hero Honda(sticker jobs) or Honda(Unicorn is here for so many years and then ....... oh Stunner ) or Yamaha(they did good..... but again FZ-16, FZ-S and maybe half-faired FZ)....... did I miss something.......
guys there's no comment from Bajaj side regarding the launch or the specs......

you are right yaar......
even we are waiting for some really good products.......

guys .... i feel 200 might get discontinued if 220 comes wid carb version.....


or may be 220 may come with both carb and fi version !!



common inflammable ... you can atleast open up which bike is gonna come .... !

couldn't have agreed more

LOL , Yes rightly said.

Some people here have no problems if a rebored version of an other bike (from an other brand) is launched, but when the 220 is upgraded, they crib that they want something "new"! Funny.

Oh just stop crying for exclusivity. And please do NOT compare bajaj's bike to any other bikes, especially HONDA and HH. If I buy a bajaj bike now and if i sell this one and buy the next edition of the same variant, there are a lot of changes seen in the bike.

Same is not the case with other manufacturers. Especially HH and HONDA
If you buy a next edition of a HH or Honda bike, you will definitely see a change in the bike.......Stickers and red alloys are amazing changes. Ain't they?

Also i don't understand why people here are crying about p220 not being a track tool.
Have they written a R anywhere on the bike? Is it Bajaj Pulsar 220R DTS-FI[old one]??
They themselves say their bikes are city bikes or street bikes. No one from their side ever claimed any bike from their stable to be a track bike.


Please don't talk about innovation and improvement on bajaj bikes by comparing them with HONDA and HH. Honda has way too much money which they put in R&D.They sell bikes in several countries.They are BIG.Bajaj is relatively small but doing damn good.

Pulsar range has evolved superb!compare the classic 180 to the 180UG4.There's so much improvement.

Those are the people who hate bajaj to the core.

The problem is as inflammable quotes, people still find it hard to digest

220 to be carb and priced @ 80k.. Then what about 200 to be a Fi and priced @ 80k news

Its pretty confusing like RTR160 Fi & RTR180carb... I'm pulling my hair out as I can't understand what these companies are onto