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**myg124** · 09-23-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by BlueBlitz View Post

Hmm,, was waiting eagerly for the launch. I won't say i am totally disappointed. Although the fastest indian has raised the expectation bar a bit too up for the other competitors, still this bike has given a great alternative to high segment owners.

The features have been improved alot, i can say that same is in for yamaha FAZER or FZ since they are feature packed people are still buying them when on putting a bit more money they can get them p220 dtsi easily.

Also the great thing is top end has been improved to 135KMPH. i hope its not improved only on DIGI error side.

but I am bit confused for myslef. i own a p200 which " according to me" is the best looking indian bike.,,, r15 is equally beautifull but i never liked the back side , the tyres and the rear seat set-up.

Now if i need to buy a bike,a new bike... Which bike i should move on to..
P220 dtsi for true 145kmph,, or r15 for nice sports experiance.. orrr Stick to my P200 which gives me 120kmph. or i should go for this new Karizma ZMR top end 135kmph.

Also old ZMA users can you help me wats the top end are you getting from your bikes.

I dont get it, are you upgrading from the p200 for a bike which has a higher top whack or some other characteristics???

The old zma hits 125( 140 on the console) nicely whenevr given the stick..

**gauravbalu** · 09-23-2009, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by BlueBlitz View Post

Also the great thing is top end has been improved to 135KMPH. i hope its not improved only on DIGI error side.

new Karizma ZMR top end 135kmph.

Also old ZMA users can you help me wats the top end are you getting from your bikes.

135?

its 126kmph

**myg124** · 09-23-2009, 09:22 PM

Heres a pic of the ZMR on the main stand( thanku Bunny!) from the bike mag...

In motion...

And last but not the least, back to what it also does best!

**desideep** · 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM

i think that i can get the tubeless for my YAMAHA now. apart from that every thing is fine

**vipin_s** · 09-23-2009, 09:39 PM

OT

desideep : Your signature rocks !!

**nirvan** · 09-23-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Sumit_Singh View Post

So to tune the horn need to remove the Fairing ,,, wierdo

Why would you want to tune the horn anyhow? Dual horn setups are typically one low and one high tone that should sound fine throughout their life.

**BlueBlitz** · 09-23-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by myg124 View Post

I dont get it, are you upgrading from the p200 for a bike which has a higher top whack or some other characteristics???

The old zma hits 125( 140 on the console) nicely whenevr given the stick..

Hmm i mean to do a package upgrade.. like both feature wise. and top whack wise...

hmm if the new ZMR is 126Top end

then i m disaapointed now..How will this beat p220.

But if i have 18 ps in my p200 then upgrading or better put downgrading to 17.6 ps doesn't seem to be a nice option. Although goodies are there but i think on road, p200 can give a tough fight to ZMR , wat say all.. What does the senior segment say.. in a drag, who beats who..

The lack of power and top-whack has made me cross this option off my probables list.

will wait for 250 segment only.

**shiv_zma** · 09-23-2009, 10:53 PM

in city i get 35-38kmpl easily...and in highway with a constant speed of 100-110kmph i get around 43kmpl easily!!!.....and if the current Fi engine is much more refined and eco friendly it can give the best figures in Mileage in its class!!!

**velociraptor13** · 09-23-2009, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by myg124 View Post

Heres a pic of the ZMR on the main stand( thanku Bunny!) from the bike mag...

In motion...

And last but not the least, back to what it also does best!

err can't see them

**ken cool** · 09-23-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by rakeshkn View Post

some pics of New Karizma ZMR PGM FI check it out

Merged your post with the existing thread!

**MACH50** · 09-23-2009, 11:17 PM

this Karizma is cool

looks great.............the daddy of big (INDIAN made)bikes is back.

but a question................this report is in which issue of Bike India??

september or october??

P.S. also think of the radical change in this market.
Pulsar 220 is widout Fi now,RTR 180 is not an Fi,Only R15 is an Fi and now Karizma joins it.So two bikes degraded and two bikes upgraded in case of Fueling system technology

**insane_x97** · 09-23-2009, 11:43 PM

think again bro,each fi had its own set of faults, +indian fuel +indian environment +indian service style +indian maintenance style, ya can count all those caught fire cases. again such problems and brand value fades.
jus think if any given r15 (liquid cooled) can catch fire with a vent blocked(as they said) what can we expect from other full fairing ones?
apart from that, most of the performance seekers cant afford, buy good tools to mess with fuel injection unit. i have seen several cases where faulty units were changed by authorized service centers, even tey cant deliver good performance.
last but not least, carb units are easy to tune/service then fi ones.
also carbs give better performance, if not mileage.

**pulsar_flame** · 09-24-2009, 12:03 AM

diff between oil cooled and liquid cooled ? and today i called asked southern auto showroom chennai they said it will take 1 month to come !

**honda_vings** · 09-24-2009, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by BlueBlitz View Post

Hmm i mean to do a package upgrade.. like both feature wise. and top whack wise...

hmm if the new ZMR is 126Top end

then i m disaapointed now..How will this beat p220.

But if i have 18 ps in my p200 then upgrading or better put downgrading to 17.6 ps doesn't seem to be a nice option. Although goodies are there but i think on road, p200 can give a tough fight to ZMR , wat say all.. What does the senior segment say.. in a drag, who beats who..

The lack of power and top-whack has made me cross this option off my probables list.

will wait for 250 segment only.

Well bro ,paper readings does not do justice with japnese engines.
On paper you only know how much power is developed by the engine at the crankcase.
It does not tell you how much of that power is efficiently delivered to the wheels (i.e. wheel horse power)
To get the wheel horse power you will need a dyno and then you will know why HONDA or YAMAHA etc. bikes are less on paper ratings but rocks on road.
tc . ....

Originally posted by insane_x97 View Post

think again bro,each fi had its own set of faults, +indian fuel +indian environment +indian service style +indian maintenance style, ya can count all those caught fire cases. again such problems and brand value fades.
jus think if any given r15 (liquid cooled) can catch fire with a vent blocked(as they said) what can we expect from other full fairing ones?
apart from that, most of the performance seekers cant afford, buy good tools to mess with fuel injection unit. i have seen several cases where faulty units were changed by authorized service centers, even tey cant deliver good performance.
last but not least, carb units are easy to tune/service then fi ones.
also carbs give better performance, if not mileage.

FI engines are anyday better den carburettor feeded engines yaar(both power and mileage)
What are you saying ?
The indian manufacturers are not skilled enough to install and tune fuel injectors into an engine, both of which are gifted from honda.
Hero honda must stick to carburettors till they have skilled people to look after FI .As the old saying is :
JISKA KAM USSEE KO SAAJAY ! !

**niks_devil666** · 09-24-2009, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by vipin_s View Post

35W headlight is something which I can't digest

, is there a wattage b/w 35 and 55W ?

45W , this is what you get in Machismo 500. (And i think was there in caliber too)

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Launch of the new ZMR - Price list posted on post no. 651

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