Niks, 45w? I mean, hasnt the 500lb gone back to 35w? It used to be 45w some time back.

Its hard to find a carb car on indian road these days. Most cars are running on FI units and they are all running on "+indian fuel +indian environment +indian service style +indian maintenance style" and they are all performing better than carbs. Cars in India have gone far ahead of bikes technologically.

Carb better performance? Only in case of Bajaj. Stunner FI outperforms Carb Stunner. ZMR outperforms ZMA, Glamour FI outperforms Carb Glamour.

Been driving both Carb and FI cars all my life. There's a world of a difference.

@BlueBlitz: Life is much more than just top speed and drags! It's more about smiles per kilometer

@insane: "carb units are easy to tune/service then fi ones" - this is where advantages of carburettors end! Manufacturers all over the world are turning to Fuel Injection technology for a reason, and that is to deliver a balance between best overall engine performance and rideability. Even Harley Davidson have one in each of their bikes now if I am not wrong! If someone can't maintain a FI vehicle well, then it's their problem not the manufacturer's who is just trying to give a better technology and product.

Back to ZMR, the motorcycle looks fantastic in the latest set of pics, and Hero Honda have again delivered the most stunning tail light ever seen on any Indian bike before. Period. I am loving the overall design and I can bet that this bike will bring an equally good ownership satisfaction.

Any vehicle with the touch of Honda's hand is known to have it's weight disappear once on move, and I am sure the ZMR will be satisfactorily light and easy to handle in different traffic condition for variety of riders.

Have anyone in Delhi/Noida tried to find out yet if any HH showroom knows when it's gonna be available?

Oil cooled : Engine oil is circulated through an element which works like a radiator, hotter engine oil becomes warmer. Ex.P200; ZMR

Liquid cooled : A liquid is circulated around the engine to absorb heat and the hot liquid passes through radiator like element. Ex. R15 and Car are generally liquid cooled.

That liquid is called Radiator Coolant which is a synthetic based antifreeze coolant for use in radiators of modern automotive vehicles meeeting the bis 5759 1970 specifications. This radiator coolant contains corrosion inhibitor and defoamant and have advantage of not boiling in summer and no freezing in winter. The radiator coolant are applicable to use in cars, tempos, jeeps and diesel vehicles, etc to be used at 30:70 dilution ratio in distilled water.

You will love these...

1. The old n the new..


2. more aggressive rear now!

3. The new ZMR's fairing definitely beats the older one at its thickness, you can see for yourself here.. it shall feel much bigger while riding and give that superbike feeling too.


4. The tail lamp is still in that sweeping upwards angle and as the older one, looks gr8!


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6. This is a good viewing angle most of the times when the bikes idling..

here..

TVS claims 180mm for the RTR. Ground clearance as claimed seems inaccurate to me. I have hit the main stand on both the Karizma and P220 with a pillion. More than the bike's fault, it's the stupid societies which construct such narrow but tall speed breakers ( and they don't meet the legal requirements for speed-breaker height and width ).

About headlamps, somebody mentioned it's the law that bikes can't have over 35W . Gotta ask, how did the Eliminator ( 60/55 ) and P220 ( 55W ) come to be ? All I know is that legally no bulb can be over 60W , anything more is illegal for road use.

@myg124

nice work there. I guess its time for first impressions thread from sunny while closing this one. there has been detailed discussions on ZMR, more than what HH might have discussed for this bike.

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i don't see a hand of Honda designing in the ZMR .. especially the fairing part!

the old ZMA had this sporty angles to it design., which gave it cult status. (yea performance added)




wonder whos followin who..
not saying tht moded one looks similar to ZMR, but neither its too different!

guess its all in the fairing design & its flow.. along the bike framework, thats make a Ninja, a ZMA & a ZMR look so.

Actually, for the manufacturer, tuning the FI is much easier. It doesn;t get easily disturbed and when needs a tuning just connect the computer and set the maps right or change them to what even type you want.

But, to the aam junta or the road side mechanics it is not possible to tune an FI system. At the same time, it is not possible for them to fiddle with it either. Also, if you want to do performance tuning they with carb you can do it yourself but with FI you would have to rely on the company supplied equippment.

Mehul, I said long back that the ZMA has much better lines... after looking them photos side by side I feel that a lot of ZMA's characteristic looks are gone. May be they did that on purpose... to showcase this as a different character.

its still 45w , only RE with DC electrix.

BTW , why is everyone giving their expert opinions even before riding it? , I would say have some patience and then discuss all of it when we want to know how it performs in the real world.

wow, nice comparison, car vs bike. and ya you gave the answer too..Cars in India have gone far ahead of bikes technologically.
apart from carb/fi, you can find 16 valve liquid cooled, oil cooler engine(esp made for india). you might have driven all those beauties, but how much time you tuned them by yourself ?

just guess if somebdy buys a *zmr*(detuned crf230), what tools he will need to retune that gifted FI ? depending on those crappy service guys is not my choice, atleast...
if lookin for performance carbs are way better then fi units.
and
ya you guessed right, indian copycats are not able to install, service, tune the fi units. technology can be gifted, not brains.
if hh was so serius why a detuned version? even after so many years,
why they dont come ahead with a bike at their own?

Oh! the comparison was merely to highlight between Carb and FI. How much time I tune by myself? Zero . And thats the point. Millions of people does not care about tuning. Seriously, out of all the millions of Carb bikes sold in india, how many people tune them?

If looking for performance Carbs are NOT better than FI units. They merely allows you greater laverage to fiddle them in your local garage or by yourself. So if you mean 'better performance' is having the ability to tune them by yourself, then you are right. Else, technologically speaking and if you have the knowhow and the tools, FI beats Carb anyday.