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I don't mind the lack of liquid cooling...not required considering the ZMA's operating temperatures and rev-range. What HH should have done to satisfy a real rider is:
1. Tubeless tires and light-weight alloys [EDIT: Apparently the Zma has this...Thanks for shouting at me Akhil!]
2. Better front brakes
3. 6 Speed Gearbox
4. HID headlamp or at least higher output headlamps
5. slightly wider and stiffer seat
6. Stickier tires
but the kind of people who buy more zma's than the "real rider" don't want any of the above...all they want is:
1. Funky digital instrumentation
2. Full faired look
3. A cooler of some kind
4. A bigger price tag
And HH has delivered...
Watch it ratchet up record sales
Last edited by gsferrari; 09-25-2009, 07:46 PM.Kriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
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If these would have been implemented along with a Liquid Cooled enginel, This machin would have beenOriginally posted by gsferrari View PostI don't mind the lack of liquid cooling...not required considering the ZMA's operating temperatures and rev-range. What HH should have done to satisfy a real rider is:
1. Tubeless tires and light-weight alloys
2. Better front brakes
3. 6 Speed Gearbox
4. HID headlamp or at least higher output headlamps
5. slightly wider and stiffer seat
6. Stickier tires
but the kind of people who buy more zma's than the "real rider" don't want any of the above...all they want is:
1. Funky digital instrumentation
2. Full faired look
3. A cooler of some kind
4. A bigger price tag
And HH has delivered...
Watch it ratchet up record sales
" Nothing Z Forever,Except D Change "
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Originally posted by L.P. View PostIf these would have been implemented along with a Liquid Cooled enginel, This machin would have been
Why is everyone so hung up on a feature that offers zero performance gains in the real world? Unless you are revving the crap out of your bike it is never going to heat up enough that air-cooling would become redundant.
Small capacity high-revving bikes are also heavy on oil and maintenance in general - remember the 2-strokes? Ever hear of the Mazda RX-7?
Go for what you need...what you really need. I'd love to boink Trisha or Asin but that doesn't mean that my college sweetheart would be any less awesome under the covers...Plus she will definitely stick around longer providing quality service for a lifetime
Kriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
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^^ +1 well said mate
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Thats a really good example GS!! I would have loved it if the ZMA came with that CRF230's 240cc kit and 6-speeder! The ZMA has tubeless now, not light-weight alloys! I think it still comes with that ENKEI alloys..Originally posted by gsferrari View PostI'd love to boink Trisha or Asin but that doesn't mean that my college sweetheart would be any less awesome under the covers...Plus she will definitely stick around longer providing quality service for a lifetime
P.S: Spending quality time at home, eh?Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.Comment
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You wish.Originally posted by gsferrari View Post
Link to this post sent to herOriginally posted by gsferrari View Postbut that doesn't mean that my college sweetheart would be any less awesome under the covers...Plus she will definitely stick around longer providing quality service for a lifetime
6 speed box would've been killer. Don't know what've happened to the famous torque spread that the Zma has, but whatever.Originally posted by Aparajith View Post"Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert Schuller
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R.I.P Kriss; 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009 -- You will not be forgotten.Comment
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Dude...the ZMR indeed has the best in class front brakes. Did you mean dual front discs??Originally posted by gsferrari View PostI don't mind the lack of liquid cooling...not required considering the ZMA's operating temperatures and rev-range. What HH should have done to satisfy a real rider is:
1. Tubeless tires and light-weight alloys [EDIT: Apparently the Zma has this...Thanks for shouting at me Akhil!]
2. Better front brakes
3. 6 Speed Gearbox
4. HID headlamp or at least higher output headlamps
5. slightly wider and stiffer seat
6. Stickier tires
but the kind of people who buy more zma's than the "real rider" don't want any of the above...all they want is:
1. Funky digital instrumentation
2. Full faired look
3. A cooler of some kind
4. A bigger price tag
And HH has delivered...
Watch it ratchet up record sales
also the tyres now provided are tubeless as standard fitment.
The seat also happens to be a gr8 stock seat by far.
Rest what you said is what EVERYBODY wanted but HH didnt deliver!
Cant help
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The front brakes on the R15 and Apache are much better. Zma's front brakes are mushy at best.Originally posted by myg124 View Post
Great for up to 100kms. Anything beyond that and the seat is just too soft...I believe even Bike India had the same comments about the seat. It is too narrow and too soft.The seat also happens to be a gr8 stock seat by far.Kriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
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Exactly!! Was about to say the same thing.....Originally posted by gsferrari View PostDemocracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.Comment
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But someway or the other it does aid in cooling of the engine though only in a small way because engine oil does help in engine cooling too.Originally posted by Aparajith View PostSocha Toh Locha.Comment
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They had rotary engines right?Cooling and lubrication was quite complex.I guess The wear and tear of the rotors were more and it suffered from overheating on the long run.Originally posted by gsferrari View PostSocha Toh Locha.Comment
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Imperceptible...most of the heat in the engine is at the head and piston crown. I wonder if there are any bikes out there with only an LC head and air cooled bore...Would be weirdly cool and much cheaper to do than a fully LC engine.Originally posted by velociraptor13 View PostKriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
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Ha ha well said. i guess the ol classic cbz had the TPFC which aided in piston cooling,please correct me if i am wrong.Originally posted by gsferrari View PostSocha Toh Locha.Comment
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