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  • #616
    Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
    Ha ha well said. i guess the ol classic cbz had the TPFC which aided in piston cooling,please correct me if i am wrong.
    TPFC stands for Transient Power Fuel Control. It was nothing but just squirting more fuel at top revs.

    @GS: Look at the link I had given about that KUBOTA Diesel engine. It has an oil cooled head(properly oil-circulated, not 220, ZMR type oil-cooling) and air-cooled bore!
    Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

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    • #617
      Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
      TPFC stands for Transient Power Fuel Control. It was nothing but just squirting more fuel at top revs.
      oh okay got it.
      Socha Toh Locha.

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      • #618
        Originally posted by gsferrari View Post
        Small capacity high-revving bikes are also heavy on oil and maintenance in general - remember the 2-strokes? Ever hear of the Mazda RX-7?
        I dont understand why you quoted a rotary engined car here. Thats in my favourite list

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        • #619
          Originally posted by gsferrari View Post
          The front brakes on the R15 and Apache are much better. Zma's front brakes are mushy at best.

          No comment required on an established legendary bike.


          Great for up to 100kms. Anything beyond that and the seat is just too soft...I believe even Bike India had the same comments about the seat. It is too narrow and too soft.
          With that regards, i think on the R15 you cant even sit long enough for 50-60 kms, the wrists start aching! Stance wise, the seat is great, yes could have had better cushioning. Narrow??!! you need to take a ride again.
          "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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          • #620
            Originally posted by myg124 View Post
            With that regards, i think on the R15 you cant even sit long enough for 50-60 kms, the wrists start aching! Stance wise, the seat is great, yes could have had better cushioning. Narrow??!! you need to take a ride again.
            Nope, No pains what so ever. R15 does have sporty riding stance but on ride or on highway...there is no pblm with R15, But yes in Traffic it will trouble arms and wrists.
            2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
            2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
            2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
            2013 - KTM 390 Duke
            2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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            • #621
              Originally posted by myg124 View Post
              With that regards, i think on the R15 you cant even sit long enough for 50-60 kms, the wrists start aching! Stance wise, the seat is great, yes could have had better cushioning. Narrow??!! you need to take a ride again.
              No way!! I have been using my R15 for touring, daily office commute et al. No pains whatsoever. As long as ur properly seated and crouched, no issues.
              Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

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              • #622
                Have been using R-15 for the past one month, with two rides out of the city. I would say, Zma has the comfy ride, both in city as well as highway. Never felt pain while riding Zma with my office laptop backpack, but I am having pain in my shoulders with the same back pack while riding to office.
                HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                • #623
                  Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
                  No way!! I have been using my R15 for touring, daily office commute et al. No pains whatsoever. As long as ur properly seated and crouched, no issues.
                  No ways..

                  V
                  V Ravis opinion sez it all i guess..
                  "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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                  • #624
                    Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                    They had rotary engines right?Cooling and lubrication was quite complex.I guess The wear and tear of the rotors were more and it suffered from overheating on the long run.
                    Rotary engines always had high wear rate to the sealants, also the rotor tip sealants and not the rotor itself. RX7 won so many races including 24 hours daytona race which is also considered as a benchmark for reliability.

                    Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
                    TPFC stands for Transient Power Fuel Control. It was nothing but just squirting more fuel at top revs.
                    TPFC does squirt fuel, but not at top revs, but every time when the throttles is twisted. During sudden throttle opening, the A/F ratio will get lean abrubtly and gain back. TPFC made sure that there was always extra fuel for the extra kick in accleration.

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                    • #625
                      Originally posted by myg124 View Post
                      Narrow??!! you need to take a ride again.
                      I just did 1000km from Bombay to Bangalore in 16 non-stop hours on the Karizma (Saturday Sept 19th). My butt tells me that this seat could have been better (read wider and stiffer). Yep it is narrow with zero support for the inner thighs.
                      Kriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
                      You will not be forgotten...RIP

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                      • #626
                        Originally posted by myg124 View Post
                        No ways..

                        V
                        V Ravis opinion sez it all i guess..
                        I guess you have decided that no one can change your opinion about comfort on the r15.

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                        • #627
                          Seems R-15 owners cannot accept that R-15 is not as comfortable as Karizma. I never said you cannot tour for long hours on R-15, you can do, but with less comfortablity than a ZMA. I have been using R-15 and had used ZMA for 2.5 years. One of our xbhpin who recently bought R-15 after using ZMA for a year had the same opinon after a long tour. That is all I can say.
                          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                          • #628
                            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Seems R-15 owners cannot accept that R-15 is not as comfortable as Karizma. I never said you cannot tour for long hours on R-15, you can do, but with less comfortablity than a ZMA. I have been using R-15 and had used ZMA for 2.5 years. One of our xbhpin who recently bought R-15 after using ZMA for a year had the same opinon after a long tour. That is all I can say.
                            I agree with your point there, the R15 is made for the track and it is not as comfortable as ZMA for touring purposes. long hours of driving is not what the R15 prefers you use it for. However, the ZMA doesn't have an issue with that...moreover it favours long riding situations
                            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                            • #629
                              ZMR-220 Comparo ---> Completed
                              ZMR-Ninja Comparo ---> Completed
                              ZMR-R15 Comparo ---> Doing rounds
                              ZMR-R1 Comparo---> Next
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                              ZMR- V-max Comparo ---> Last



                              Guys, let's wait for the test reports of this bike.

                              Anyone comfirmed with the showroom guys in Hyderabad about the deliveries?
                              From variable Bhps to a constant 17.6 Bhp.

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                              • #630
                                Ravi anna, I just wanted to point out that wrist pains etc are gone once we get used to the bike, in my case at least. Maybe its not the case with everyone. Sorry if I sounded like the R15 is as comfortable as the ZMA. You're right, the R15 can never be as comfy as the ZMA. Its a different seating posture, its all about getting used to it.. anyway you have much more experience than me, what you say is true.

                                I just posted in reply to myg who was convinced even though Aparijit said the R15 is not uncomfortable..

                                Gonna stop here, sorry for the OT guys....!!!

                                ZMR looks are growing on me day by day, big-bike look?? Definitely

                                Engine can only be better than the current ZMA, and that's really something! Can't wait to ride it when some one buys it here....!!

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