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  • from the teaser... it doesnt look exciting at all... more like a mishmash of their sub 150cc offerings and the pulsar range..

    no monoshock either and those tank panels loook.... errr.... weird?

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    • Originally posted by anirudh View Post
      OK after going through this entire thread I wonder what all this cribbing is for....

      ISSUE II

      Commuter vs Premium Biker

      Not so long back the fastest indian bike was the HH CBZ? with a mere 150cc engine. At that time that was the only premium and the rest were all commuters. Then came the pulsars and the zma and all of a sudden u had anything sub 150 as commuter. Now that there are more bikes >180cc even the 150's have become a commuter. Its a good sign that the indian biking scene is becoming better by the day. But the fact still remains that the majority are on commuters if u take the real definition of a commuter into consideration. In the western countries a 250 is a starter... 250 to 600 and in some cases upto 650 are commuters and anything above that is a premium. Now a guy riding a zx10r can complain that the guy in the 250 is stealing the ninja brand name but thats not true. The ninja brand name is synonymous to performance and that is exactly what kawasaki has portrayed these bikes to be in their own segments. When a guy sees the name ninja he knows its a premium machine in its segment. Same way if a p135 is launched that means that wants to be on top of the food chain in the 135 segment. A p200 owner still remains premium in his own segment and is in no way affected by the 135 sporting the same name. And this also brings us to issue III


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      • Agree with Anirudh one all the points. But there is also the comparision thing that we do. If the scenarios explained by anirudh are GENERALIZED there are many othe similar cases like that and people crib about it.
        Eg: HH using the 97.5cc engine in bikes like splendour, passion, NXG, joy, dawn, blah blah...but many still crib about it! Right? and similary the Unicorn engine family! Same goes to Yamaha's approach to FZ with its variants of FZ-S and FAZER!!! They have different class of customers, of course guys at Yamaha arent blindly launhing their products.

        Bajaj has all rights to use the way they want to use PULSAR as brand name...They can re-brand all their product lineup from right from 100cc to 220cc. Hope at least this >150cc bike has better life when compared to its siblings.
        True that guyz at Yamaha, Bajaj, HH are having knowledgable people!! but they cant predict future or customer reation.

        at end, its almost impossible to satisy every one, one them has to suffer!
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        • yeah atleast they are changing cc rather than stickers and fairings , lol .
          And its not just changing cc , Bajaj try their very best to give what they can , not unlike yamaha and honda who have so much expertise and experience and who can give us much better but still dont want to . Specially honda , very laid back attitude these guys have. Bajaj are bringing changes for the better wherever they can , for eg : the DC electricals which is not much talked about is a v good n useful thing .
          Yeah bajaj seems to rush things but they dont hesitate to rectify it . All companies have something which people blame for it for years .
          Like even if bajaj makes some highly reliable engine , people would take years to realize it . But way to go for bajaj to achieve that .

          But one thing no one can deny is it is bajaj that has still kept market on toes and kept the sense of competition alive . Otherwise it was same freaking boring as always.
          Hope is a good thing ,
          may be the best of things and
          no good thing ever dies .

          Get busy living or get busy dying .

          - The Shawshank Redemption .

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          • Originally posted by santoosh View Post

            Whats special in an FZ or Fazer other than looks ? Its highly overpriced , underpowerd , pathetic milage . isnt it still selling more than any other 150?


            Santa
            Just for the comparison's sake and clear your mind I am going to compare the latest p150 with the heaviest in the Yamaha Fz series, the Fazer. Fazer (with that big semi fairing) have a kerb weight of 141kgs which is 2 kgs less than the p150 at 143kgs, and Fazer makes 14ps of power while p150 does unnoticeably better with 14.09ps! You can check their respective websites. None in Fz series is underpowered! lol. Praise worthy of the fact that fz series still have the fattest front forks among Indian bikes and the tyres too. And it shows in it's ride quality which is lacking in pulsar.

            Now, as a you have already said about the looks! the Fz series have, in every practical sense, better components than the bajaj. Be it chassis, suspension, handling, smoothness, gearbox etc. Bajaj, being an arrogant manufacturer and with lack of racing experience, will never better the japs when it comes to delivering a fine balance of chassis and suspension, these being among the key ingredients to deliver a good ride quality. P220s handling limitations against the competition are an example of this!! If bajaj continues to behave like this, then without foreign assistance, they will never make a better product on their own against what japs have and will have for India! However, they will keep making up for it by keeping the costs lesser than the competition, and it works with many as we can see. Think about why Honda Unicorn, being considered outdated and boring, is still better at handling, cornering and stability!!

            And yes, I for one will pay more price for Yamaha!
            Last edited by Satellite.kid; 11-25-2009, 05:20 AM.
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            • OT
              FYI-I myself own a yam , But im no brand loyalist .
              And my comparison was clearly to do with " Looks sell in india" .
              For the price of an fz or a fazer id rather get a 220 or a zma. Its more practical for the price.zma gives the same milage as the fz with more power n torque.
              IMHO,no doubt Fazer has the best looks in town.

              Ppl from Yamaha and the dealers themselves accept the fact that FZ is an all show and no go bike .All that matters is the numbers sold @ the end of the day.

              Howmuch ever u criticise Bajaj , its the numbers that matter to them , no your expertise , They are selling , selling well, all by themselves and not Japs help.

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              • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                Ppl from Yamaha and the dealers themselves accept the fact that FZ is an all show and no go bike .All that matters is the numbers sold @ the end of the day.

                Howmuch ever u criticise Bajaj , its the numbers that matter to them , no your expertise , They are selling , selling well, all by themselves and not Japs help.

                Santa
                wow, this is news to me!! when did Yamaha said that about it's own product!! may be they gave you a call!!

                And yes I know that bajaj wouldn't give sh*t about my "expertise" and they can very well continue to sell in biiiiiig numbers. But as I said, they will never make a better product than the japs, for the reasons I wrote in my previous post. And yes, the japs might very well not care about that too!

                PS: I own a Bullet Electra, so even I am not brand loyalist
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                • Dint have your number, else would have diverted the call :-P.

                  Enuf of OT for now
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                  • looks like a newer version of 180cc... but since it has a kick in it.. it can be a lower end bike like XCD upgraded to pulsar...!!!
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                    • Anyone...Specs please ? ..Looks like the new Pulsar135 may have power o/p very close to P150....

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                      • It's Pulsar 135 ???

                        this one is the snapshot of earlier image, later on that rear section was blurred .. from the image probably it looks to be 135
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                        • Here's a piece of info I came across on the net.. Nothing new in it.. Still felt like sharing it.



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                          • What???? No one invited me to the marriage of Pulsar and XCD135. Now you people are saying that they are about to have a baby as well....

                            Damn!


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                            • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                              Anyone...Specs please ? ..Looks like the new Pulsar135 may have power o/p very close to P150....
                              OT. is that you sitting on the horse? Is that your photo?
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                              • Originally posted by inflammable View Post
                                OT. is that you sitting on the horse? Is that your photo?
                                ^^ That's me not on horse but donkey

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