The black/red combo is the 250R. The White/Red is the 650R. They have different frames.

A tuned GT250R would put out close to 32hp, but gets marred by its weight.

Not that these graphics are bad but previous graphics looked better. I hope my opinion changes after seeing it in flesh.

A 26 bhp generating V-Twin with no liquid cooling and wrapped around in full fairing..wouldnt it heat up in India way too quickly!

notice the different chasis in first two and last two pics??

and color/graphics could have been a lot better.
no FI, no liquid cooling..???

what will happen to vibes, noise and heat management at higher RPM's??

does it offer even 90% of performance that ninja gives? doesn't seem so.

nice review.

looks BIG... and that is its only selling point.

nice video, but lacks the truth.

very very true.

now we seriously needs some unbiased and true performance figures of KTM200, P200NS, R15, CBR250R and if possible this GT250R. mods do something, before somebody else does it.

ha ha, exactly my thoughts dude....

some say FI some say carb..?? very confusing.
surely looks big, its best USP.
but a V-twin 250 CC without liquid cooling. what will happen to vibes, noise, heat management etc..??
lot of weight means less performance.
+ reliability doubts.
sums up to having only selling point as looks and some features like- projector headlamps, etc..

Hi antz.bin, your comparison of P2W ratio with price actually made me think this. If there's a scooter/bike with 10bhp weighing 72Kg (giving exact same P2W ratio of 138 hp/tonne ) with other similar features like 5 gears, oil-cooled, carbed etc., then would it be justified if that scooter/bike costs around Rs. 80000 - the same as Pulsar 220? Or if the scooter costs Rs. 50000, then can we say that P220 should also cost same because it has same P2W ratio and similar features as that scooter/bike?

Plus GT250R will be CKD, so that also increases the cost.

So why should it matter to us how the product comes? If they manufacture it here, obviously they can price it lower and get much better volumes but they are not willing to take the risk. Why should it be priced MORE than, say, a CBR250R which has almost the same horsepower and 'BETTER' P2W ratio?? I am not against Hyosung or the GT250R in any way, the only thing I am against is overpriced + incompetent products. The sales figures will most certainly agree with me. There is no 'exotic technology' in the bike nor does it come with an 'Exotic Italian' badge to command a premium over a Honda.

Anyways, a 10hp scooter weighing just 72Kg will actually be quite a lot of fun and might just be a super-hit with the ladies considering what options they currently have on the market. @50k, it might actually work, do relay your idea to the scooter companies (TVS/HMC/HMSI). The most powerful scooter in India, the Suzuki Access is 8.5hp and 115Kg (with a P2W ratio of 73.9hp/tonne) but still retails for 50ish OTR. So what you say is clearly not happening.

P.S.: For 30k more than the most powerful scooter in India, what the P220 has extra is:
1. Projector Headlamps
2. Ability to 'cruise' in the low 130s
3. More Disc brakes
4. Almost 87% better P2W ratio.
5. Almost the same FE.

What stuff extra does the GT250R offer over the P220(for 1.4lac more) or even the CBR 250R (for 40-50 grand more).

It has an additional cylinder (read V-Twin)

Antz
A better chassis
An extra cylinder
Extra bhp
extra torque
Better brakes
A proper sport handling machine that can be thrashed on the tracks.
RVMs which you can use
Exclusivity
(and I can just go on an on)

Ratios are fun.
Would you rather hump a 2 feet dwarf having the same ratios are Sunny Leone?
Just asking!

Yeah, I know a scooter weighing 72 kg producing 10 BHP is very unrealistic. I threw it in just for comparision. And yes, that would be a lot of fun if made possible

I am hoping that Hyosung would give us the best price possible because they also need to establish themselves here. A high price will make buyers rather prefer Ninja 250R.

Comments in Bold.
Edit: We must not forget that the 'soon to be discontinued' P220 will be a generation old very very soon. So its not fair to compare it with a current gen 'to be launched' vehicle. So why not keep the comparison with the other 250 on the market?

Satyen - Define exclusivity pls? IMHO, NCR 16 or probably HD's are more apt to be called exclusive motorcycles. Including Ninja 250R, Hayabusa & R1 are non exclusive, forget alone the GT250R.

Regarding tracks, most of us spend time to ride on roads & very less on tracks, except for few experts who buy to ride on track. All of us know the comment passed by Dilip Rogger on GT650R after riding on tracks, anyway let's keep that aside as we're talking about GT250R.

This forum for some reason appears to be anti CBR 250R; not that I don't see flaws with C250R, but, people bash C250R just at the drop of a hat for no apparent reason. Had this been a anti Hyosung forum, first thing people would've spoken is to bring the history of GT250R with their previous alliance with Kinetic Motors.

Anyway, its too early to comment anything positive/negative with GT250R plus I'm of the opinion that every product is unique & its more apt to categorize than compared. Let the product roll out to speak on its own.

1. You brought the P220 comparison
2. You brought the Ratio analogy and hence Sunny Leon. (Another aspect of ratios which people understand better)
3. If you compare it with the CBR (despite not knowing its full specs/price then here you go)
- An extra cyclinder, did we not complain about the CBR missing an extra cylinder?
- A bigger bike feel
- Inverted Forks
- A vTwin by its character is a bit vibey, but they still make vTwins? Are they all crap? Go ahead and ask Beeru on whether he like the CBRs power band... chances are you will need to put a cork on his mouth for him to shut up
- Exclusivity is not necesarily a flop product. The 848 is exclusive, the multistrada is, the Ninja250 in green is! and PS: Mojo has a far better spec than the CBR250R

4. We must not forget, comparing motorcycles are futile, especially in a environment like ours where we have just 2 of them!

Going by your analogy, all 1000ccs should be similarly specced/priced,
Whereever the specs are similar, one of them should shut shop.
Wherever the specs are different, the price should be insanely different
With every new product, the new manufacturer must try to out do the other.

Go back and look at the iconic R1, Gixxer they still sell, and the product hasnt changed a lot in the last few iterations.

In reality the Ninja 250 should not be a CBR250R, the CBR250r cannot be a Ninja250 and should not be a Ninja250.
That leaves the Hyosung to be some where close to ninja, and some were close to CBR
Each of these are three different segments, and even before someone has confirmed price/specs its futile to compare the bikes.



Edit:
Exclusivity

for the minority called enthusiast:
- Name another 250cc vTwin in India?
- Name another 250cc with a Twin Disc upfront

for the mega majority called public:
I meant exclusivity purely in a sense where people would recognize this bike as a sports bike as compared the Pulsar 220 which was compared in that post.

@Saitan baba.. I am in a hurry right now, but I do have a reply for everything.

Some other day, some other time, some other forum, with better weapons to shut each other up


The point is simple. Whats with this unnecessary assumption and comparison! And then defending the comparison like your life depended on it! Why this kolaveri


PPS: Had spoken to a chap from Hyosung for the GT650N launch. They had said that the GT250R and its naked cousin should come to India, and they are trying hard to localize the parts and hence should be able to price it under the 2L tag. This was an off the record chat. If you ask me, this is a damn neat proposition, and look at it this way, we have a big fat 0 in world class bikes a few years bike, and now we have them compete in this segment!

Its a part of the optional accessories they provide. Mentioned on the web site OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES

• Sports muffler
• Centre Stand Kit
• Tinted Touring Screen
• Tinted Screen