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**csgup1** · 12-19-2009, 09:42 AM

both front and rear. I put a pilot power and a couple of other tyres side by side and could see the difference in the profiles immediately. more pronounced on the rear due to it being bigger.

I also should point out that these softer tyres get deformed fairly quickly. think about 4-5 thousand k's. Even if they have plenty of thread left you will be able to feel the difference immidiately if you went onto fresh tyres. Unless you are doing plenty of trackdays, powers are almost too soft for indian conditions to use what they were designed for. If you are doing only a few trackdays , then its a trade off between squaring off the center riding in the straight line vs, the grip you can get.

**Old Fox** · 12-19-2009, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by rossiter View Post

Steep profile? Are you talking about the front?

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

both front and rear. I put a pilot power and a couple of other tyres side by side and could see the difference in the profiles immediately. more pronounced on the rear due to it being bigger.

I also should point out that these softer tyres get deformed fairly quickly. think about 4-5 thousand k's. Even if they have plenty of thread left you will be able to feel the difference immidiately if you went onto fresh tyres. Unless you are doing plenty of trackdays, powers are almost too soft for indian conditions to use what they were designed for. If you are doing only a few trackdays , then its a trade off between squaring off the center riding in the straight line vs, the grip you can get.

Even I am not that sure of the 'steep profile' of the Michelin Pilots compared to Bridgestones but have experienced severe squaring off during the last GIR when most of the ride was with the bike upright on the GQ. Took about 9000 kms to get that worn out. There was loads of tread left along the sides but the bike handled like a pregnant Yak, courtesy the 'almost flat' centre-section. Lean it and it resists the lean till you hit the 'squared' edge...and then it falls over like nobody's business. (Akhil: Hope you remember my beautifully handling One in Bangy

)

We switched to Pilot Medium during the last leg and they felt better for highway travel. I don't know if its only with the Pilots but they don't need much of a warm-up before giving good grip. Not a squeak under hard throttle even when barely 8-10 kms into the ride. And braking felt as good as with the previous 'soft' we were shod with.

**csgup1** · 12-19-2009, 07:55 PM

in my experience,the pilots have fantastic warm up time. although 8-10 kms are enough to warm almost any tyre up.

I did a Philip island track day a couple of days ago and after one lap i could go as hard as i could .

the best test of cold grip is going out and giving it a fair handful in the first couple of kms. the best tyres that offer cold grip will pull the front up fairly easy.

**tanay** · 12-20-2009, 12:21 AM

Are there not any nice tyres that last for a long time and still provide an acceptable grip level? I'm a very long way from SBK ownership but all this tyre changing business at every 4-5-6K is expensive!

**Old Fox** · 12-20-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

in my experience,the pilots have fantastic warm up time. although 8-10 kms are enough to warm almost any tyre up.

I did a Philip island track day a couple of days ago and after one lap i could go as hard as i could .

the best test of cold grip is going out and giving it a fair handful in the first couple of kms. the best tyres that offer cold grip will pull the front up fairly easy.

Thats 8-10 kms of typical urban - suburban Indian traffic before you get to roads open enough for reasonably quick acceleration. Puttering at sub-60 kph is not much of a warmer I guess.

Originally posted by tanay View Post

Are there not any nice tyres that last for a long time and still provide an acceptable grip level? I'm a very long way from SBK ownership but all this tyre changing business at every 4-5-6K is expensive!

More power means quicker wearing out of tyres. A judicious throttle hand and easy braking can get you about 10-12k kms between tyre changes with mediums on most sbk's.

**apacheRTR160** · 12-20-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

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.

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**fireblah** · 12-20-2009, 06:33 PM

^^ Thanks mate....

Ok, so from the above discussion what I get is that I should go for medium.
@Oldfox: which specific pilot medium did you switch to ? By this chart, even pilot power 2ct (which i had quite decided to buy) seems to be good only for tracks.....
So which tyre would be. Michelin recommends three types.. power one, pilot power 2ct and pilot power... kinds confused now. Not know much about bridgestone yet...

**Streetfighter** · 12-21-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by apacheRTR160 View Post

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**Old Fox** · 12-21-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

^^ Thanks mate....

Ok, so from the above discussion what I get is that I should go for medium.
@Oldfox: which specific pilot medium did you switch to ? By this chart, even pilot power 2ct (which i had quite decided to buy) seems to be good only for tracks.....
So which tyre would be. Michelin recommends three types.. power one, pilot power 2ct and pilot power... kinds confused now. Not know much about bridgestone yet...

Go in for the 2ct's, Vishal. A tyre good for tracks usually implies grippier compound though that comes with a 'quick wearing' rider attached. But then, tyre wear is a lot dependent on throttle and brake usage. The 2ct's will give you the right mix of grip and acceptable longevity. With typical road/touring usage, expect something like 8-10k before the need for a change of the rear..of course assuming you don't like doing burnouts

.

**rossiter** · 12-21-2009, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

both front and rear. I put a pilot power and a couple of other tyres side by side and could see the difference in the profiles immediately. more pronounced on the rear due to it being bigger.

I also should point out that these softer tyres get deformed fairly quickly. think about 4-5 thousand k's. Even if they have plenty of thread left you will be able to feel the difference immidiately if you went onto fresh tyres. Unless you are doing plenty of trackdays, powers are almost too soft for indian conditions to use what they were designed for. If you are doing only a few trackdays , then its a trade off between squaring off the center riding in the straight line vs, the grip you can get.

I've only seen the Pirellis next to the Michelins, and I felt the Michelin was less steeper than the Pirelli.

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

^^ Thanks mate....

Ok, so from the above discussion what I get is that I should go for medium.
@Oldfox: which specific pilot medium did you switch to ? By this chart, even pilot power 2ct (which i had quite decided to buy) seems to be good only for tracks.....
So which tyre would be. Michelin recommends three types.. power one, pilot power 2ct and pilot power... kinds confused now. Not know much about bridgestone yet...

Originally posted by Old Fox View Post

Go in for the 2ct's, Vishal. A tyre good for tracks usually implies grippier compound though that comes with a 'quick wearing' rider attached. But then, tyre wear is a lot dependent on throttle and brake usage. The 2ct's will give you the right mix of grip and acceptable longevity. With typical road/touring usage, expect something like 8-10k before the need for a change of the rear..of course assuming you don't like doing burnouts

.

@Fireblah: To add to OF's post, I would suggest the Pilot Sport for your usage. It's a little more harder, hence will last longer, and the tradeoff in grip is minimal. I have the Pilot Sport for normal use, and getting a 2CT rear as well as a Power One in a day or two for use on the tracks. I used the Pilot Sport on a recent trackday and I have to say that while the grip level wasn't extraordinary, it did just fine for a rider like me. In my reckoning, even the 2CTs are a bit much for street riding here in India.

**fireblah** · 12-22-2009, 12:32 AM

I had never seen a fireblade other than mine... but that changed today... So many FIREBLADES !!!!

Stayed there for 2 hrs, just staring at bikes n stuff...
Made in India...... check out the price tag !

**csgup1** · 12-22-2009, 06:15 PM

if you are choosing between normal powers and 2ct's i recon go for the 2ct's. only difference is softer sides and if you are doing enough track days you will benefit from it. the middle patch will wear out at the same rate. but if you are commuting , then go for a harder tyre to stop getting the tyre deformed too quick.

**crazy_NJ** · 12-30-2009, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by fireblah View Post

I had never seen a fireblade other than mine... but that changed today... So many FIREBLADES !!!!

Stayed there for 2 hrs, just staring at bikes n stuff...
Made in India...... check out the price tag !

Where is this place??? (Heaven)

**Bladerunner** · 12-31-2009, 05:10 AM

That's in London.

**ashes** · 12-31-2009, 12:09 PM

what are CBF stunners doing in London??

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