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  • #496
    Originally posted by fireblah View Post
    seriously, i am a total noob when it comes to many of the terms used above and before....
    like coming hot, loading the front, quick flick ?, etc etc...
    is there a simpler explanation for how you fell ?
    need a guide please...
    Quick Flick- It means what it says. Turning the bike at a very fast rate. Literally flicking it into a corner. It is usually done when going fast into a corner and entering a corner late.

    Coming in hot- Carrying too much speed/approaching a corner at a higher speed than what is safe/necessary.

    Loading the front- Weight of the bike is transfered onto the front wheel. E.G. when braking, most of the weight of the bike is transfered onto the front tyre which means it gets loaded.

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    • #497
      Originally posted by TenHut View Post
      I will answer your question highlighted in blue ! Why does one need steering corrections in a corner if one is not hot in the corner ?
      Entry was slow and although I was trying to quick flick I couldnt quick flick because I was slow.
      Any bike/Any front gets loaded way more when your steering is slow than when you steer quick. Quick flicks ensure that the front doesnt load up much. That is another advantage of quick flick other than the usual advantage of carrying more speed at lesser lean as you square off the corner with a quickflick.

      Now for the speed I was carrying had I steered lazily I would have made it through the corner. But I came in slow...quickflicked the bike...the low speeds did not warrant quickflick.(to quick flick you also need quick speed)
      So I quickflick..realise that I am falling to the inside way too fast...so I pick up the bike again by countersteering and lean it back again with throttle off.
      ...steering with throttle off...was most prolly the cause for loading the front like there were no tomrrow.

      Thanks for trying to help me analyse the mistake.
      Entering hot and turning in early and messing up the entry will also cause front to be loaded but that can be taken care of by being on the throttle to load the rear. But that wasnt the scenario for the crash at hand.
      Another thing I learnt out of this is...if you arent riding quick enough..please dont quick flick the bike...the bike will fall to the inside of the corner at an alarming rate and that will make you commit mid corner steering corrections. And if you have been on the throttle while doing all this then its fine...if not you are kissing the tarmac.
      ohh...k though i didnt thought about Quick flick!. anyways....my question is why didn't u thought of doing a knee down!! which i think would have helped u in the first place coz like i see mostly..when I face's situation like this. I used to drag my knee on the Tarmac to stop the further increment of the lean angle! and in way it also help's me to be stable around the corner coz the quick flick or Turning in to Early.
      any thoughts on this?
      Last edited by gamer.nfsmw; 10-19-2010, 11:12 AM.

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      • #498
        Originally posted by Samuel View Post
        Curious to know how u got back the bike?
        Dont ask man...My biceps are still hurting
        To each his own karma!

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        • #499
          Originally posted by ashtorque View Post
          Dont ask man...My biceps are still hurting
          what i can interpret is that you pushed the bike down!! why did you not hire a tempo?

          @tenhut: as evident from the pics, you slid on a left handler but then how is the right end of your fairing broken??? or is it that the pics of the left hand fairing are missing? .

          also, the engine cover also seems broken, in the fourth pic
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          • #500
            Tenhut - Sorry to hear about the crash. Was talking about you with one of my friend who owns 1000 cc gixxer on Friday night.

            Hope everything is OK. Take care man

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            • #501
              Originally posted by fireblah View Post
              is there a simpler explanation for how you fell ?
              This is how I fell....the video should clear things up for you. In slow motion you can notice how the guy loses his front. In real time it is happening in a no time..
              YouTube - R6 Low Side Motorcycle Crash - Mulholland

              Originally posted by Samuel View Post
              Curious to know how u got back the bike?
              We loaded it in a Tempo to get it back home.
              Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post
              what i can interpret is that you pushed the bike down!! why did you not hire a tempo?
              what you really should have interpreted is that he was joking
              sigpic
              when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
              one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
              kamlesh kanda
              NO PACE TOO SLOW
              IF you're at all going to be a respectable rider one day, leave your pride at the "door."

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              • #502
                check this out i like the angle eye's on the blade
                YouTube - CBR1000 Low Side Crash

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                • #503
                  Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                  This is how I fell....the video should clear things up for you. In slow motion you can notice how the guy loses his front. In real time it is happening in a no time..
                  YouTube - R6 Low Side Motorcycle Crash - Mulholland
                  This once almost happened to me, but I immediately got the bike straightened up.. looks like the dood was too slow and the rear did not find any grip... didn't he loose the front because of loosing rear first ?
                  May the torque be with you..
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                  • #504
                    Originally posted by fireblah View Post
                    didn't he loose the front because of loosing rear first ?
                    twas the other way around actually!
                    .
                    sigpic

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                    • #505
                      both have applied brakes. please notice the tyre marks on the track immediately prior to the lowside crash.

                      this may have caused the lowside in the first place.
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                      • #506
                        Originally posted by xionite View Post
                        twas the other way around actually!
                        yes...he did not lose his rear first then front.
                        he folded his front. Rear never lost traction

                        Originally posted by harikeshpk View Post
                        both have applied brakes. please notice the tyre marks on the track immediately prior to the lowside crash.

                        this may have caused the lowside in the first place.
                        The angel eyes blade guy applied rear brake.
                        The one who lowsided due to the front folding up on him was not on brakes at all.
                        sigpic
                        when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
                        one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
                        kamlesh kanda
                        NO PACE TOO SLOW
                        IF you're at all going to be a respectable rider one day, leave your pride at the "door."

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                        • #507
                          @Rohan:

                          You got the replacements work done?
                          The Magician"

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                          • #508
                            It seems as if some rider on a track loses his front.

                            Were tires the culprit? As per my info, 600's can stretch tire's life wrt to 1000's.

                            Have been hearing repeatedly that chicken stripes, yes most pride in it (I too have showed 'em off at occasions) isn't doing your riding any good.

                            Squid riders/Posers is what guys with chicken stripes are called.

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                            • #509
                              All izz well

                              TH,
                              Get back on the saddle soon man. Speedy recovery to u n ur Blade
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by sheelpriye
                              Please understand that by advocating proper riding gears, I/We aren't gaining anything. Its for You:)

                              Bang your head, while standing opposite/close to a wall, speed @2-3kmph? Hurts?
                              Increase your speed & watch the fun, when someone falls from a Motorcycle,unfortunately he can't choose which way to fall best & hurt himself less.

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                              • #510
                                If you fold the front, its an open invitation for a crash and only an inexperienced rider can do that ....
                                And i feel, this kind of experience does not necessarily come from track riding, or any kind of training ! its a basic instinct which a child learns from childhood on his first bicycle !
                                well, enuf said... that micky dude has loads of crash videos.. hehe interesting watch

                                @sheel: my blade's got chicken strip ... heck.. its an ostrich strip ! isnt it wise of me to have em in a corner called Kolkata ?
                                Last edited by fireblah; 10-19-2010, 07:31 PM.
                                May the torque be with you..
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