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**dafc** · 01-31-2011, 09:59 PM

First of all let me tell you there is a little pool of oil in your crankshaft that will act as a failsafe for a few kimis like 10 maybe 12 and if your pump fails at high rev and you keep revving the amount you premix won't do squat. Second your spark plug doesn't tell you anything about glazing

split crankcase and brace for impact.

**aargee** · 01-31-2011, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by dafc View Post

there is a little pool of oil in your crankshaft that will act as a failsafe for a few kimis like 10 maybe 12 and if your pump fails at high rev

Err...isn't that engine oil? I don't think there's any fail proof mechanism pal. Probably what you meant to say could be, even if the pump gets conked off, the cylinder get ceased after few to several Kms 'cause of existing lubrication.

Originally posted by dafc View Post

you keep revving the amount you premix won't do squat.

Again, how do you say so?

Originally posted by dafc View Post

Second your spark plug doesn't tell you anything about glazing

split crankcase and brace for impact.

I didn't get the point you're trying to convey

Are you saying, the plug doesn't say about the quantity of oil mix either from pump or fuel tank?

**raghu_shekar** · 02-01-2011, 11:23 AM

ok......@aargee: I did like you told with the premix, filled up the tank with about 3 ltrs of petrol and 70 ml of oil, Result: Notices excess smoke from the exhaust.. this is like back to square one..(the reason i started the thread

)@yamdoot: I will be able to put a video of the pump and explain what i wanted to tell, only during the weekend.. sorry... most of my weekdays is gone in the office...I searched a lot and no leeds for an oilpump... Can someone pls help me out here... Also got some problems with the gear shifting.. guess i will start a new thread for that.. else i wont get answeres for this thread

**dpak89** · 02-01-2011, 12:08 PM

@raghu:bro first you please decarbonize your silencer core!! then test it after a week....that could also be a cause...@aargee ,sriram and dafc: glazing's effect cant be exactly read by a spark plug!!but yeah you can find how the combustion is going on!!today i gave my for servicing in one of the leading YSS in CBE for RX !! there a rx mech(they have a seperate team for RX service alone with bays for RX bikes seperately

) said my bike is a bit affected by glazing

and still one cant rule out by reading the plug that glazing dint happen!! and he also added that oil pump does the job perfectly and malfuction of oil pump is very rare .... for longrides he asked to add premix since that needs a bit extra of oil!!
P.S: i dont believe mech's ....still when i saw this team building a RX100 in YSS today i had a hard feeling for missing these guys(uncles actually

) while building my bike

!!

**aargee** · 02-01-2011, 12:08 PM

@Raghu - you need to look beyond this primary issue of exhaust smoke. As I said before & have been saying, I'm using premix for over 3+ years now & there're smokes very rarely. If you want I can post my PUC certificate also, which reads as 1.3 against the permitted level of 4.5 and I hardly see any smoke from exhaust. There's some issue somewhere, could be even with your riding pattern probably.

**raghu_shekar** · 02-01-2011, 02:06 PM

hmmmm.... fine then..
will decarbonize my silencer this weekend...
get a new pump... (@arvind.. will call u soon) / check out using premix after decarbonizing...
Riding pattern....????? i doubt im doing something wrong there

....

Thanks for all your valuable suggestions guys...
Got to get solutions for the gear problem now....

.. Will come back with the question...

**dpak89** · 02-01-2011, 02:46 PM

check my thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/thumpers...djustment.html!!! may be you get some idea about gear shifting problem!!and this thread is relevant for you only if you have problem in engaging neutral and others gear engagement will be smooth!!

**dafc** · 02-01-2011, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by dpak89 View Post

glazing's effect cant be exactly read by a spark plug!!but yeah you can find how the combustion is going on!!

awww that sucks man

But it is a lot easier to get rid of it if your ring clearance allows for it just get the cylinder rehoned while making sure the ring clearance and piston clearance is in spec and get a new pair of rings and a 2t pump and you are on your way blasting to glory. Followed by a wise run in obviously. And the pump does not break down easily because it is a reciprocating type. Yamaha didn't just blow tons of moniez on RND and get a patent on the autolube system for nothing lol if it was working for them that's why they chose to use it in RD350 and later on in the RX series as well

**Rosh.Shogun** · 02-01-2011, 09:03 PM

premix oil from shell is good

**SriramEfunds** · 02-01-2011, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Rosh.Shogun View Post

premix oil from shell is good

From what I have heard is good. There were no bad remarks.

**dpak89** · 02-02-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by dafc View Post

awww that sucks man

But it is a lot easier to get rid of it if your ring clearance allows for it just get the cylinder rehoned while making sure the ring clearance and piston clearance is in spec and get a new pair of rings and a 2t pump and you are on your way blasting to glory. Followed by a wise run in obviously. And the pump does not break down easily because it is a reciprocating type. Yamaha didn't just blow tons of moniez on RND and get a patent on the autolube system for nothing lol if it was working for them that's why they chose to use it in RD350 and later on in the RX series as well

bro i did not check pump still..i thought of checking it myself as ypu instructed!!..and my cylinder is not much affected by glazing!!! i will give my cylinder an acid wash later ...may be after some 3k km...so no worries for me now regarding that!! (time being

) i am only worried about the BILL i have to pay tomorrow while they delivery my bike

**dafc** · 02-02-2011, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by dpak89 View Post

bro i did not check pump still..i thought of checking it myself as ypu instructed!!..and my cylinder is not much affected by glazing!!! i will give my cylinder an acid wash later ...may be after some 3k km...so no worries for me now regarding that!! (time being

) i am only worried about the BILL i have to pay tomorrow while they delivery my bike

dude you acid wash plated barrels, iron/steel barrels are different hahahahaha

**dpak89** · 02-02-2011, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by dafc View Post

dude you acid wash plated barrels, iron/steel barrels are different hahahahaha

lol!! is it??an ENGINEER(not mech)

in yamaha service station advised me this idea

.....see what kinda engg are repairing our bikes !!!

**Rosh.Shogun** · 02-03-2011, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

From what I have heard is good. There were no bad remarks.

Thx bro

**dpak89** · 02-07-2011, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Yes, check them out, some of them would be MICO, but the later ones SHOULD be NGK with the model number. NGK is what Escorts/YMIS suggests & is available in OE packing. Personally I couldn't find any difference between OE & Mico.

Do post the pic of your plug before & after cleaning.

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

What is it you are looking for? NGK Plug for Yamaha RX135 is BPR7HS.

my bike is running on BPR5HS !!! is it also a recommended plug ??

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