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  • #61
    The most silly reasons for seizure is the accelator cable is stressed too much give the accelator cable a separate routing dont route it along with clutch cable, and change both the autolube pipes to visible one's so that at signals and pitstops you can always have a look whether the oilflow is correct or not.
    "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


    Still the Boss -- RX 135

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    • #62
      Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
      The most silly reasons for seizure is the accelator cable is stressed too much give the accelator cable a separate routing dont route it along with clutch cable, and change both the autolube pipes to visible one's so that at signals and pitstops you can always have a look whether the oilflow is correct or not.
      Transparent tubes would be great, but I'm too chicken to try out aftermarket tubes. I feel safer to use TVS tubes only... and the OEM pump to carb tube on my bike is black. The oil tank to pump tube is transparent... however the transparency has gone down with time.

      Wanted to change the tubes, but the TVS supervisor swore that its not necessary as they are still in good shape. They don't have the tubes anyway... they say they will get them soon.

      Hope they get transparent tubes... else I don't see them as an option.

      I keep checking to see if the exhaust is giving out smoke to confirm that oil is reaching the engine; and also the engine temp. In the absence of a transparent tube, this is the only other way I can think of.
      Last edited by Raccoon; 04-17-2009, 10:02 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by vasanth kumar View Post
        i think it costs around 1600 rs
        What?! I don't think its that expensive. The one that I bought was an OEM Yamaha.

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        • #64
          TVS suzuki -- 600 rs
          Yamaha --- 1600 rs.. The only part where yamaha is costly than shoguns

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          • #65
            The one I bought for 600 turned out to be a used one. Bought another RX-100 one for 950 and changed the gear.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
              ^^^I guess it can be repaired... but others more knowledgeable about it here can hopefully make more useful comments. If not repair, then you could just replace it... for peace of mind. And it would be worth it.

              So your pump has run trouble free for 23 years? You have never needed to repair/replace it? How many km has your bike run with that pump? Any idea what make it is? The pump in my Shogun is a Pricol... if I remember correct.
              Yes. It has run trouble free for 23 years. Its a stock pump that came along with the bike. Dont know who is the vendor/OEM. It has run over 1.3Lkms with the pump.

              Hope the comments were useful
              A lone amateur built the ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic...

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              • #67
                Where can I find Motul 800 2T in Chennai..if not here which is the closest place to chennai where I can find it...??
                '68 Jawa 250 ,'76 Yezdi 250, '85 RD350, '88 RD350 , '95 TZR250 3XV, '01 RX 135 5speed, '05 Pulsar 180Dtsi V1

                "You live more in five minutes on a bike like this(Indian Scout) going flat out than some people live in their lifetime" - Burt Munro

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                  Transparent tubes would be great, but I'm too chicken to try out aftermarket tubes. I feel safer to use TVS tubes only... and the OEM pump to carb tube on my bike is black. The oil tank to pump tube is transparent... however the transparency has gone down with time.
                  TVS is shipping transparent tubes for the oil pump. 2T chamber to oil pump and oil pump to carb. - just look around for them. The "black" age is gone but well of course those were some great pipes. I have 2 of them sealed pack as "collector's" items.

                  PS: Regarding the oil pump nipple, it costs around Rs. 8 or so. Not more than that.
                  '98 Shogun

                  '91 RX100

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                    Yes. It has run trouble free for 23 years. Its a stock pump that came along with the bike. Dont know who is the vendor/OEM. It has run over 1.3Lkms with the pump.

                    Hope the comments were useful
                    Wow, thats cool. Now I'm feeling a bit more confident about my decade or so old pump...

                    Originally posted by swingarm View Post
                    TVS is shipping transparent tubes for the oil pump. 2T chamber to oil pump and oil pump to carb. - just look around for them. The "black" age is gone but well of course those were some great pipes. I have 2 of them sealed pack as "collector's" items.

                    PS: Regarding the oil pump nipple, it costs around Rs. 8 or so. Not more than that.
                    Thats great. Will see if my ASC has got the new tubes by now. Still, my old tubes are looking good... dunno if I should fix whats not remotely broken...

                    Btw, whats the best way to change the pump to carb tube? The mechs say we just keep pumping oil into the carb hole (where the tube goes) with an oil gun... until the oil starts coming out of the carb end of the new tube. I dont like the sound of that at all. Whats the right way of doing it?

                    Dunno for sure whats this oil pump nipple. Will see when I open it next. Is it easy to change? Hope I can get it at the ASC...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Raccoon View Post

                      Btw, whats the best way to change the pump to carb tube? The mechs say we just keep pumping oil into the carb hole (where the tube goes) with an oil gun... until the oil starts coming out of the carb end of the new tube. I dont like the sound of that at all. Whats the right way of doing it?

                      Dunno for sure whats this oil pump nipple. Will see when I open it next. Is it easy to change? Hope I can get it at the ASC...
                      Put the tubes on the oil pump, do not connect the pump to carb tube. Start the bike, let the 2T oil bleed from the pump to carb tube in your hand. As it bleeds, insert it into the carb end. You are done.
                      '98 Shogun

                      '91 RX100

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                      • #71
                        I've started using the Petronas oil and its superb.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by swingarm View Post
                          Put the tubes on the oil pump, do not connect the pump to carb tube. Start the bike, let the 2T oil bleed from the pump to carb tube in your hand. As it bleeds, insert it into the carb end. You are done.
                          Sorry, I guess I missed this thread earlier.

                          Dude, the problem is the engine will be running without oil till the point the oil starts coming out of the carb end of the tube!!!

                          And I reckon, it will take few mins for the oil to fill up the tube.

                          I'm considering doing this when there is say a litre or two of petrol in the tank (estimated) and then add maybe say 15 ml/litre 2t in the petrol tank and let the bike run for a bit until the petrol+oil mix fills up the carb. Then I guess I can safely do this procedure. But then the bike will be running with more than required oil for a bit.

                          Another way could be to use an injection syringe to fill up the tube with 2t oil and then fix it. I don't suppose air bubbles are an issue for this tube.

                          What do you think?

                          Bladerunner, which Petronas oil? The fully synth one?
                          Last edited by Raccoon; 05-21-2009, 07:55 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                            Bladerunner, which Petronas oil? The fully synth one?
                            Yes, the Sprinta 5000.

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                            • #74
                              guys hi i have found this thread about 2t oil very interesting as i too like all 2 strokers here worry weather my oil pump is working or not. its like a feeling that a guy who sleeps with many girl has "am i getting AIDS or have i done it once too many? maybe i should i stop "

                              So heres my dealy to the big 2t junkies here

                              how do u determine or know for sure the 2t oil pump is functioning? do we have to take it to a mech or can chck ourselves. (i owna shaolin)

                              i cant see weather the level in my oil box is getting less coz it completely faded sort of and cant see through.

                              Advice appreciated. thanx guys
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                              07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
                              99' Suzuki Shaolin
                              85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
                                how do u determine or know for sure the 2t oil pump is functioning? do we have to take it to a mech or can chck ourselves. (i owna shaolin)

                                i cant see weather the level in my oil box is getting less coz it completely faded sort of and cant see through.

                                Advice appreciated. thanx guys
                                Replace the oil tank/box glass. This is the easiset & safest way. If your bike feels rougher at higher speeds, that might also be an indication inadequate lubing.

                                But the best way as I said, would be to replace the glass (or the guage itself if necessary).
                                A lone amateur built the ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic...

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