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**psycho 98** · 09-18-2009, 11:03 PM

^^+800 2T

on this.

Raccoon youu rather seem to be confusing others more than

confusing your self

I rest my case now.

**Raccoon** · 09-19-2009, 01:07 AM

^^^ Heheheheh... lol! Whats wrong with a bit of confusion... esp. when everyone (mebbe including myself) is pretty smug about what they know?

Atul Astro, I'm seriously not preaching anything. Sorry if it somehow sounded like that. Pump or otherwise, its the owner's baby and his decision. Other than the matter of pumping some more pre-mixed pollution+air

into others lungs, it shouldn't concern anybody. I thought we were only exploring the pros and cons of both.

**yamahatrooper** · 09-19-2009, 01:32 AM

Could nt help meself from jumping into this debate.

Well i feel using the oil pump provided there are no blockages in the pipes ensures a optimum amount of 2T oil for the mix but if the owner is careful with the amount of 2T is a petrol oil pre mix and uses a funnel to fill in the petrol oil mix into the tank it should be allrite. And loose 2T is a obviuos NO. I ensure that i go to a pump that sells Mak 2T and use 40 ml to each liter and that seems to working fine on MegaReX. Cos ultimately the oil from the oil pumps ends up getting premixed at the carb anyways.

Other than that the one advantage I can see of using 2T oil in the oil tank over a pre mix is that its more convienient for us kind of guys cos we want the best for our bikes and can get the choice of filling in a good oil of our choice like JetX or Yamalube or whatever and not having to carry a can of 1 liter 2t every time we need to gas up.

But then again 2T in the tank sometimes, helps to keep the insides of the tank healthy.

**Raccoon** · 09-19-2009, 01:49 AM

^^^ Don't want to sound like an oil pump

by repeating things (been discussed before), but you seem to have missed the most important point - the pump is there to reduce your 2t usage without compromising on the lubing needs!

A very small amount of 2t in the fuel tank is enough to keep it from rusting.

**outworldly maniac** · 09-19-2009, 02:36 AM

@ Yamahatropper
From personal experience am telling you . 40 ml per liter is not good .
Use 25-30 ml per liter . Take others advice also like pyscho

and others . Just telling you what i experienced

.

@ raccoon

Good to see you take talks so lightly even in not so good cases .

cheers pals

**sat_06** · 09-29-2009, 05:46 AM

Pump or No Pump

'Learn by doing' is what is belive in, i hate the theory part.Consider this as practicals.

1) So go ahead and start the bike and make sure the engine stays on.

2) Remove the Oil tube from the carb (Only from the Carb).

3) When the engine is in idle mode you will not notice any oil coming out of the tube that is because rate of Oil pumping will be slow.

4) Now start reving the engine slowly, as the fuel flow increases in to the carb, 2T oil will be oozing out of the tube.

When the throttle is increased the 2T flow in to the carb will also be increased.

This is what i have practically checkedout.

**Raccoon** · 09-30-2009, 03:00 AM

Brilliant observation, thanks!

**RX88** · 11-15-2009, 08:44 PM

Hi Raccoon

Its good to read this history about oil,and thanks for that knowledge i got from all of your views,I am also from Pune and i have a Rx100,88 model,and i use MOTUL 800 FACTORY LINE OFF ROAD 2T OIL,which costs Rs750 and i buy it from DSG(Dream Sporting Gear) as it is close to my house,till date touch wood i did not have any problems in the running of my engine as it is a single hand use bike.As my personal experience I feel Motul is a well satisfactory 2T oil,All i want to ask is that can u tell me or guide me besides DSG where can i get this Motul 2T oil as i feel these guys must be charging a bit more

from customers(not sure).And which oil in Motul is the best (2Toil).
Do you know any shop from where i can get this and also can you guide me (price is not the consern) which is the best of best Gear box and 2T oil.Right now i am using 20w50 for the gera box and the same as above for the side oil.Your help on this would be highly appreciated

**Raccoon** · 11-16-2009, 02:31 AM

Motul 800 would be the best, but is your bike used mainly for offroading? If not, why are you using the one for off road?

Since you are using the above, I assume you are using premix... because Motul 800 is not ment to be used with the pump. If you are using the pump, use Motul 510. It can used both ways. Price is around Rs. 400/litre. If you buy more, you could bargain for a lesser price. PM me if you wanna know where to get it.

**jd666** · 11-16-2009, 06:35 AM

^^ why not with the pump???

**braindead** · 11-16-2009, 06:53 AM

because it says so on the can.

motul 800 is too viscous if not mixed with petrol and can mess up the metering by the oil pump.

**SunnyBoi** · 11-16-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by sat_06 View Post

4) Now start reving the engine slowly, as the fuel flow increases in to the carb, 2T oil will be oozing out of the tube.

Instead of increasing the throttle, pull the oil cable. On a RX its outside, just hold the cable and yank it up as much as you can. Can see oil flowing faster which means lesser time taken and less revving the engine without oil.

Its better you take out the pipe before starting the bike, plug the hole in the carb with something and then start the bike. Who knows what small airleak might cause havoc.

**Nikhil Pereira** · 11-16-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by SunnyBoi View Post

Its better you take out the pipe before starting the bike, plug the hole in the carb with something and then start the bike. Who knows what small airleak might cause havoc.

+1
you know ure bang on, coz if u dont plug that gap, then the engine starts revving higher although slowly, but the extra air being sucked in from that inlet means a leaner misture runnig in for that amount of time, so plz be careful and as sunny boi says plug that hole before starting

**SunnyBoi** · 11-16-2009, 04:26 PM

I had a seizure on my RX once because the mechanic forgot to put that pipe back on the carb. even though I was on premix

Hence that thought is permanently etched in my mind

**Raccoon** · 11-16-2009, 05:20 PM

How did you get a seizure if you were on premix?

I wouldn't run the engine without the pipe attached... or at least i'd add some oil in the tank.

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