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  • Hi

    Hi there for rocky road and offroading tubeless tyre not good if you damage your alloy wheel you lose air better to carry extra tube with you we got same problem with my brother bike in our one trip if seen motocross,offroading bikes have spokes wheel tube tyers
    for online shopping check hoodwinds leh 2012 planner log he mention some store
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    • Originally posted by the nightfox View Post
      @aatifs:
      Thanks for that tip mate. I'll surely get one new for this trip (any online store u know of??).

      @Icemang: Thanks for the prompt response sir. I will definitely look into my riding posture and learn some mechanics too. One more issue I forgot to mention abt the tyre was that when on my previous trip, I had to ride in this terrible stretch of around 20-30kms full of huge rocks and stones. At one point my front tyre skidded and a medium sized rock hit my alloy rim with a big bang. I stopped to see if it has done any damage but nothing was visible. I carried on and on that evening I found out that the air pressure of the front wheel had gone down drastically. I checked for any puncture but nothing was visible. I then spotted the air leak (using some soap solution) near the juncture between the tyre and the rim. To make things worse there was one more similar leak on the other side. I could not think of a solution for this and hence had to fill up air then and there for the rest of the trip which again was a little troublesome. I did not want to ride with low pressure tyre's as it's not safe, plus the FE would drop drastically.

      Now how can one handle this type of situation?
      The local mechanic now has changed the tyre into a tubed one. That has taken care of the problem but my question is whether or not, tubed tyres are better option for such rides?
      About the air leaking. Your rim is definitely bent and would need to be change if you intend to use tubeless tyres. Else, your mechanic's mechanism of putting in a tube is a cheaper alternative.

      See, tubed and tubeless tyres have their merits and demerits, let's not get into that issue here on the Leh thread. Enough to say that IMO, tubed tyres are more easily maintained in places like Leh. Some additional tools needed but peace of mind; rim bent or not, the tyre does not lose pressure.

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      • Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
        Wish 25k was possible...that would be possible by: loading bike on train + sleeper class travel both ways which would save up considerable costs!
        Though I really want to ride up all the way!
        Hi

        You can complete the riding trip within 30K or even less..I have made it in 2011. Riders from Delhi are fortunate as they don't have to carry things in train.



        In case you have riding gear/tools/spares, you can travel in train up to Jammu for going via Srinagar route or upto Chandigarh, if going via Manali route.

        All the best..ride safe..

        ramamoorthy

        ps: Beevi eventually won the argument..like every time
        I am taking my family to Leh this year..myself wifey and son along with three other colleagues and their family flying to Leh in this May 2012..

        these are from my last years ride : https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0332194&type=3
        Ladakh 2011_ Photolog: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0332194&type=3

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        • Icemag.... I may join in too.

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          • Originally posted by nsengg View Post
            Icemag.... I may join in too.
            You are always welcome. Just check the thread from the start to get into and stay in the groove, update your details in the Members G Doc and prepare yourself mentally and physically, that's all

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            • Originally posted by vivek.n View Post
              Thanks for the Amazing Input. Now let me think twice before leaving on august. The greatest Problem is My leaves. I cannot have take off before august. If it doesn't work Well this year let me try out next year.
              And By the Way are you still serving Indian Army? I mean Are you still on duty or retired?
              August is not a bad time at all... actually its a good time for few reasons...
              1) everything is cheap as its almost end of season. you can bargain on everything. rooms/tents are even available for Rs.100/night per head.
              2) rains very less
              3) not much traffic

              but negatives are that you wont find snow at lower altitudes on the manali route...

              so i will say you can plan anytime in august or till september end.

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              • Originally posted by Calibre View Post
                August is not a bad time at all... actually its a good time for few reasons...
                1) everything is cheap as its almost end of season. you can bargain on everything. rooms/tents are even available for Rs.100/night per head.
                2) rains very less
                3) not much traffic

                but negatives are that you wont find snow at lower altitudes on the manali route...

                so i will say you can plan anytime in august or till september end.
                +million to that

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                • Originally posted by icemang View Post
                  For all interested members,

                  I cannot stress more on the need to prepare oneself physically and mentally for the journey ahead hence this post.

                  I have served in that area for 2 years including 1 year in the general area of Siachen and 90 days on a post at 20,000 feet. High altitude treats you well if you are prepared for it. And you enjoy it fully when you are fully prepared for it. If you act funny, it will ruthlessly throw you into hospital with a multitude of life-threatening health issues. The saying "Don't be a Gama(buffoon) in the the land of the Lama" is a most apt one.

                  I have chosen the Srinagar on purpose so that we acclimatise gradually to the lowering oxygen content in the air, the reducing temperatures and poor road conditions.

                  There are still 8 months to go so bags of time to get oneself in shape for Leh.

                  Please do basic health checkups: heart, BP, BMI etc. Those who are overweight/obese, lose the flab else lose the trip. For people with known heart, lung and weight issues, it would be prudent avoid the road trip.

                  Any questions on a fitness program, please PM me with details of age, gender, height, weight, and experience of sports etc. I will try to help...
                  Hi Icemang
                  I just want to know whether I am fit or not. I do some warm ups like 60 pushups, 10 Pull ups and 30 reps of different kind of crunches. Other than that I don't have any heart or lungs problem. I am 5' 11'' and around 85 kg and 27 years old. What else I need to do to Prepare Physically. I am preparing My mind for the Past one year for that. What else I need to do So that I may not face any health issue to spoil my trip and which I can tell others also to do so.
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                  • Originally posted by vivek.n View Post
                    Hi Icemang
                    I just want to know whether I am fit or not. I do some warm ups like 60 pushups, 10 Pull ups and 30 reps of different kind of crunches. Other than that I don't have any heart or lungs problem. I am 5' 11'' and around 85 kg and 27 years old. What else I need to do to Prepare Physically. I am preparing My mind for the Past one year for that. What else I need to do So that I may not face any health issue to spoil my trip and which I can tell others also to do so.
                    Hi Vivek,

                    You are quite strong, I can see. What you need for this trip is cardiovascular strengthening which involves the blood stream - the heart, lungs and blood vessels.

                    You could go easy on the weights and include some more cardio training - long walks to start off with and then jogging and then finally running.

                    One routine which works for me (I have a 20 year old knee injury so cannot run much) is a 3 km walk at moderate speed then 1 km of jogging and then 3 or 4 100m sprints, all out (do or die type). In Phase 1 and 2, the large leg muscles get a work out and in Phase 3, the lungs are strained - just what is needed for high altitude.

                    A correct mental state too is essential. Do read up on all there is to offer on the Web about the place and its eccentricities; I am sure you will be an asset rather than a liability.

                    Another thing. Do check your BP and BMI - it should be correct for your age. Else, lose some weight; the BP and BMI will both imrove.
                    Last edited by icemang; 02-17-2012, 01:04 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by icemang View Post
                      Hi Vivek,

                      You are quite strong, I can see. What you need for this trip is cardiovascular strengthening which involves the blood stream - the heart, lungs and blood vessels.

                      You could go easy on the weights and include some more cardio training - long walks to start off with and then jogging and then finally running.

                      One routine which works for me (I have a 20 year old knee injury so cannot run much) is a 3 km walk at moderate speed then 1 km of jogging and then 3 or 4 100m sprints, all out (do or die type). In Phase 1 and 2, the large leg muscles get a work out and in Phase 3, the lungs are strained - just what is needed for high altitude.

                      A correct mental state too is essential. Do read up on all there is to offer on the Web about the place and its eccentricities; I am sure you will be an asset rather than a liability.

                      Another thing. Do check your BP and BMI - it should be correct for your age. Else, lose some weight; the BP and BMI will both imrove.
                      ok fine then I will start Jogging atleast.
                      A next door biker..

                      Ride To the Coastal Heaven
                      Trip of Joy Ended in Learning out of Disaster!
                      Please Vote for me for the True Wanderer by Wrangler
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                      • Originally posted by vivek.n View Post
                        Hi Icemang
                        I just want to know whether I am fit or not. I do some warm ups like 60 pushups, 10 Pull ups and 30 reps of different kind of crunches. Other than that I don't have any heart or lungs problem. I am 5' 11'' and around 85 kg and 27 years old. What else I need to do to Prepare Physically. I am preparing My mind for the Past one year for that. What else I need to do So that I may not face any health issue to spoil my trip and which I can tell others also to do so.
                        dude... im 5.7 weighing 64kg and i never faced any issues whatsoever... i don't think so you will have any issue given you do not have common cold at that time... cold is a thing that can spoil your whole trip...
                        just keep jogging daily and that should be enough... hav a good trip...

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                        • Originally posted by icemang View Post
                          This is a revised tentative schedule, based on inputs from Vishwas. As usual, it is likely to change as per our plans as they advance beyond this stage. So here goes:

                          03 Jun Sunday Jammu afternoon: Rendezvous of members, introductions, checks and prep for the next day.

                          04 June Monday Jammu to Srinagar/Pahalgam: Start from a place agreed to on 3rd. Pahalgam has been reported as a better alternative to Srinagar. We can decide in-situ

                          05 June Tuesday Srinagar/Pahalgam to Drass/Kargil: If Zojilla proves too time consuming, then Drass else Kargil.

                          06 Jun Wednesday Kargil to Leh via Lamayuru: Early start as members might want time for photography.

                          07 Jun Thursday Leh: 1st day of acclimatisation, sight-seeing, application for permits, bike and equipment check etc. Carb reset done here.

                          08 June Friday Leh: 2nd day of acclimatisation and sight-seeing if required.

                          09 June Saturday Leh to Pangong Tso: Onward journey

                          10 Jun Sunday Pangong Tso to Leh Via Chushul and Chumathang: Return journey.

                          11 June Monday Leh to Siachen: for me only. Members of xBHP who are also serving members of the Armed Forces might be allowed, no guarantees. The others can go to Chumathang, take in the Hemis Gompa etc.

                          12 June Tuesday Siachen to Leh: ditto as above.

                          13 June Wednesday Leh: Rest in Leh, prep for the return trip.

                          14 June Thursday Leh to Pang: self explanatory.

                          15 June Friday Pang to Keylong: ditto

                          16 June Saturday Keylong to Manali/Kulu: depending upon what people prefer

                          17 June Sunday Kulu to Ambala: for me as I will catch a train from there to Pune.

                          Total days on the road: 14.

                          Emergencies etc: 2 days in spare on both sides for travel arrangements.

                          Grand total: 16 days.
                          Dear Col.Manish, i hope the above schedule holds true till date. planning to join the group if i am getting leave. I am unable to access the excel sheet now. hope to submit once i am able to access the same.
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                          • Originally posted by harikeshpk View Post
                            Dear Col.Manish, i hope the above schedule holds true till date. planning to join the group if i am getting leave. I am unable to access the excel sheet now. hope to submit once i am able to access the same.
                            Good morning, Harikesh sir.

                            No, this is the old schedule. I had had to push the dates further as the passes on the Leh - Manali axis would not be open in the old schedule. And nobody in the team which is still forming was able to get the extra leave that returning via Srinagar entails.

                            Here is the Excel link
                            https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5E...RhYTQ5YzYxY2E5

                            The latest and now frozen schedule is as under:

                            08 Jun Fri – Pune to Jammu Tawi,


                            09 Jun Sat – En-route

                            10 Jun Sunday Jammu afternoon: Rendezvous of members, introductions, checks and prep for the next day.

                            11 June Monday Jammu to Srinagar (290)/Pahalgam: Start from a place agreed to on 3rd. Pahalgam has been reported as a better alternative to Srinagar. We can decide in-situ

                            12 June Tuesday Srinagar/Pahalgam to Drass (220)/Kargil (280): If Zojilla proves too time consuming, then Drass else Kargil.

                            13 Jun Wednesday Drass/Kargil to Leh via Lamayuru (286/225): Early start as members might want time for photography.

                            14 Jun Thursday Leh: 1st day of acclimatisation, sight-seeing, application for permits, bike and equipment check etc. Carb reset done here.

                            15 June Friday Leh: 2nd day of acclimatisation and sight-seeing if required.

                            16 June Saturday Leh to Siachen (230): Onward journey.

                            17 Jun Sunday Siachen to Leh (230): Return journey.

                            18 June Monday Leh to Pangong Tso (Spangmik 170): NH Spangmik
                            19 June Tuesday Pangong Tso (Spangmik) to Nyoma via Chushul (150): Night halt Nyoma (I want to stay in my old hut in Chushul, if I can)

                            20 June Wednesday Nyoma to Upshi/Karu/Leh (159/166/202): Upshi if there is a fuel pump there else Leh, rest in Leh, prep for the return trip.

                            21 June Thursday Leh/Karu/Upshi to Pang/Sarchu (175/139/126>249/213/200): self explanatory.

                            22 June Friday Pang/Sarchu to Keylong (207/133): ditto

                            23 June Saturday Keylong to Manali/Kulu (114/156): depending upon what people prefer

                            24 June Sunday Manali/Kulu to Ambala (243/201): for me as I will catch a train from there to Pune.

                            25 Jun Mon – Reserve

                            26 Jun Tues - Reserve

                            27 Jun Wed – Ambala to Pune
                            Total days on the road: 14. Emergencies etc: 2 days in spare at the end for travel arrangements. Grand Total – 16 days.

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                            • Stretch from Nubra to Pangong Lake

                              I am planning to do this ....
                              DAY 1 : Leh - Panamik - Hundar - Diskit .
                              Total travel : 230 km (aprox).
                              Stay at Deskit
                              DAY 2 : Deskit - Khalsar - Wari La - Shakti - Tangtse - Pangong Tso
                              Total Distance : 230 km (approx).
                              Stay at Pangong Tso

                              DAY 3 : Pangong Tso - Tso Moriri
                              Total distance : 160 km
                              Stay at Tso moriri

                              DAY 4 : Tso Moriri - Leh
                              Total Distance : 200

                              The total distance that i am travelling is around 900 Kms ...
                              I can get Fuel pump at Leh only in between.
                              Is there any other option to get fuel there in between.
                              We are going with our Bullets.
                              There is one petrol pump at Hundar, but does that pump keep Petrol also

                              Because other wise we will be doing a lot of trekking rather than bikeing
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                              • Originally posted by surajit09 View Post
                                I am planning to do this ....
                                DAY 1 : Leh - Panamik - Hundar - Diskit .
                                Total travel : 230 km (aprox).
                                Stay at Deskit

                                Doable
                                DAY 2 : Deskit - Khalsar - Wari La - Shakti - Tangtse - Pangong Tso
                                Total Distance : 230 km (approx).
                                Stay at Pangong Tso

                                I suppose you mean Spangmik. P Tso has very expensive Eco huts nearby - 3 or 4K per night. Spangmik is better.
                                DAY 3 : Pangong Tso - Tso Moriri
                                Total distance : 160 km
                                Stay at Tso moriri

                                I have not yet heard of accommodation at T Moriri unless you are carrying tents.Else, better this:
                                D3 - Spangmik to Nyoma, night halt Nyoma. 147 kms
                                D4 - Nyoma to Upshi via Tso Moriri. 191 kms. An early start will give about 1.5 hours in Tso Moriri; more than enough.

                                DAY 4 : Tso Moriri - Leh
                                Total Distance : 200

                                D5 - Upshi to Leh. If on D4, you make it to Upshi in time, carry on to Leh directly and save one day. Driving the dark on this stretch is easy.
                                The total distance that i am travelling is around 900 Kms ...
                                I can get Fuel pump at Leh only in between.
                                Is there any other option to get fuel there in between.
                                We are going with our Bullets.
                                There is one petrol pump at Hundar, but does that pump keep Petrol also

                                Hundar, Diskit and Nyoma have fuel in black, Upshi has a proper pump, AFAIK.

                                Because other wise we will be doing a lot of trekking rather than bikeing
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