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**Noor** · 03-18-2012, 12:19 AM

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**aargee** · 03-18-2012, 01:43 PM

What bike are we talking about here? If its anything on 200cc & above, there's nothing to worry; anyway, check out these threads first...

Getting my Yamaha SZR SaddleSore ready - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/20399-getting-my-yamaha-szr-saddlesore-ready.html

Wanna know whats wrong with your bike or or looking for the best mechanic in your town? Ask here!

Why Not A SaddleSore? - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/20251-why-not-saddlesore.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

Saddlesore attempt in the 3rd week of august. - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/18838-saddlesore-attempt-3rd-week-august.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

Successful Saddlesore 1600K attempt in Yamaha Fazer - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/15111-successful-saddlesore-1600k-attempt-yamaha-fazer.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...ddle-sore.html (She did the same route you're asking)

Pune-Bangalore-Pune is nothing to worry about, just be cautious about one specific stretch (after Chitradurga towards Pune) where you don't have a fuel station for 100 Kms. Good places to get proof is fuel station.

If you want to succeed in first attempt ride through the route once casually before attempting a SS. Good luck.

**forcooler** · 03-18-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

What bike are we talking about here? If its anything on 200cc & above, there's nothing to worry; anyway, check out these threads first...

Getting my Yamaha SZR SaddleSore ready - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/20399-getting-my-yamaha-szr-saddlesore-ready.html

Wanna know whats wrong with your bike or or looking for the best mechanic in your town? Ask here!

Why Not A SaddleSore? - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/20251-why-not-saddlesore.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

Saddlesore attempt in the 3rd week of august. - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/18838-saddlesore-attempt-3rd-week-august.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

Successful Saddlesore 1600K attempt in Yamaha Fazer - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/15111-successful-saddlesore-1600k-attempt-yamaha-fazer.html

Motorcycle travelogues by thousands of xBhpians from across the world.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...ddle-sore.html (She did the same route you're asking)

Pune-Bangalore-Pune is nothing to worry about, just be cautious about one specific stretch (after Chitradurga towards Pune) where you don't have a fuel station for 100 Kms. Good places to get proof is fuel station.

If you want to succeed in first attempt ride through the route once casually before attempting a SS. Good luck.

Thanks for all the links,

I have a 2007 pulsar 220fi, I've ridden from Pune to Belgaum a few times,so I'm comfortable with that.But don't have an idea about the roads further.

Thanks for the Chitradurga tip.

Any other tips for riding from belgaum to tumkur(i'll be riding around there between 3-6am)

And by proof at fuel stations do we mean a card swipe purchase or the electronic receipt,because i've noticed some fuel stations print the wrong time?

Also do ATM proofs need to be taken separately? for proving the town you passed?(noticed this in Ananth's thread-Why not a saddlesore)

Thanks for the help

**aargee** · 03-19-2012, 09:21 AM

Otherwise you have another option;
doing Pune - Bangalore - Hyderabad section, practice to cross to BLR-Hyderabad section; last but not the least, service your P220 well & run it for about 200-300 Kms before you carry out SS. The only limitation I see on this trip is...you

Do a few Sunday morning rides to check your endurance. Good luck

**mansuryayas** · 03-19-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Otherwise you have another option;
doing Pune - Bangalore - Hyderabad section, practice to cross to BLR-Hyderabad section; last but not the least, service your P220 well & run it for about 200-300 Kms before you carry out SS. The only limitation I see on this trip is...you

Do a few Sunday morning rides to check your endurance. Good luck

Aargee good tips there not just for him but anyone willing to attempt SS.

The best would be a 2 day rece of the entire route, that will help locate all the bunks which have Electronic Receipts, places you are most likely to stop for Fuel and locations where if needed you might just find a mech

**Juris** · 03-19-2012, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by forcooler View Post

And by proof at fuel stations do we mean a card swipe purchase or the electronic receipt,because i've noticed some fuel stations print the wrong time?

Also do ATM proofs need to be taken separately? for proving the town you passed?(noticed this in Ananth's thread-Why not a saddlesore)

Thanks for the help

As per IBA rules, only Fuel E Receipts at starting and ending point are required(and at stops in between, normal manual receipts are good enough). To support one's application, one normally takes ATM receipts at starting and end points. Also. if you are taking a u turn, than again a dated receipt is required at turning point. Normally, to make application full proof, people target those bunks in the route, that give e receipts. Incase, you get a wrong time stamp, you can get the mismatch substantiated and signed by Bunk people.

**forcooler** · 03-19-2012, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Otherwise you have another option;
doing Pune - Bangalore - Hyderabad section, practice to cross to BLR-Hyderabad section; last but not the least, service your P220 well & run it for about 200-300 Kms before you carry out SS. The only limitation I see on this trip is...you

Do a few Sunday morning rides to check your endurance. Good luck

I'd prefer the pune-blr-pune so that i can get back to work on a monday.I do like the part about me being the only limitation

.Thanks for the tips.

Originally posted by mansuryayas View Post

Aargee good tips there not just for him but anyone willing to attempt SS.

The best would be a 2 day rece of the entire route, that will help locate all the bunks which have Electronic Receipts, places you are most likely to stop for Fuel and locations where if needed you might just find a mech

A 2 day rece would really require some time which I'm not sure I'll be able to take out very easily.I wish i could though,would mean twice the ride.

Originally posted by Juris View Post

As per IBA rules, only Fuel E Receipts at starting and ending point are required(and at stops in between, normal manual receipts are good enough). To support one's application, one normally takes ATM receipts at starting and end points. Also. if you are taking a u turn, than again a dated receipt is required at turning point. Normally, to make application full proof, people target those bunks in the route, that give e receipts. Incase, you get a wrong time stamp, you can get the mismatch substantiated and signed by Bunk people.

Thanks,exactly the answer i wanted about the proofs Juris,thanks

So the plan currently stands like this: Leave from Pune around 11pm reach the turn around point(around tumkur) early morning and target reaching back around 8-9pm in the evening.

The benefit I see in this that I'll be fresher while riding in the night.Plus the fact that at the turn around point,mentally I'll have "all day" to ride home.

The disadvantage is that I'll be doing an unknown route(post-belgaum) at night time.

Do you think this is a good idea?

**Juris** · 03-19-2012, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by forcooler View Post

Thanks,exactly the answer i wanted about the proofs Juris,thanks

So the plan currently stands like this: Leave from Pune around 11pm reach the turn around point(around tumkur) early morning and target reaching back around 8-9pm in the evening.

The benefit I see in this that I'll be fresher while riding in the night.Plus the fact that at the turn around point,mentally I'll have "all day" to ride home.

The disadvantage is that I'll be doing an unknown route(post-belgaum) at night time.

Do you think this is a good idea?

I would suggest you to get thoroughly acquainted with route before you attempt. Though, the average figure to be maintained is 70, but in 24 hours, maintaining this speed without acquaintance of route, fuel stops and road conditions would be difficult. In short you don't want to compromise on your safety.

**aargee** · 03-19-2012, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Juris View Post

maintained is 70, but in 24 hours

Slight correction - 72 Kmph in 23 hours; always keep 1 hour for buffer.
Slighter correction - 78.1 Kmph in 21 hours; keep aside every 5 min per 1 hour for 23 hours for re-fuelling, ATM receipts, butt break

**forcooler** · 03-20-2012, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Slight correction - 72 Kmph in 23 hours; always keep 1 hour for buffer.
Slighter correction - 78.1 Kmph in 21 hours; keep aside every 5 min per 1 hour for 23 hours for re-fuelling, ATM receipts, butt break

nice..numbers..that I like. but you're right about the slighter correction.

**nav75** · 03-20-2012, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by forcooler View Post

So the plan currently stands like this: Leave from Pune around 11pm reach the turn around point(around tumkur) early morning and target reaching back around 8-9pm in the evening.

The benefit I see in this that I'll be fresher while riding in the night.Plus the fact that at the turn around point,mentally I'll have "all day" to ride home.

Are you used to of staying awake from 11pm for 24hrs?
If not, I'll suggest to reconsider your start time.

Originally posted by forcooler View Post

The disadvantage is that I'll be doing an unknown route(post-belgaum) at night time.

Do you think this is a good idea?

Nope.
Though the road till Dharwad is good but after that, if you have not ridden before it could be an issue, specially when you will be riding to maintain some minimum speed. But that's just me.

I'll say that, you start after a good night's sleep (around 5-5:30am). This way you will be past Kolhapur by 8-8:30am (Pune - Kolhapur during day time got a bit traffic to safely do high average speeds).

Also, if you have not done before, try to ride for 200-300km's in night and see what average speeds you can maintain, safely.

Here is what I have shared somewhere else, in a similar thread:

Let me share my exp (having tried SS1600k a few times). I might not be the right person as I haven't been able to complete the ride, in specified time.

1. Selection of a route is one of the most important thing. One should be familiar with the route, knows good sections(to take advantage) and bad sections(to be careful).

2. Identify your start, end and turnoff point(if any) that satisfy the documentation criteria of IBA(printed slips and all).

3. Select a correct vehicle. The slower cruising speed of the bike is, the most harder you will have to ride.

4. Prepare a comfortable seat. After all you would be sitting on it for 24/36hrs.

5. Improve headlights (aux lamp, HID, projector lamp, higher wattage bulb). Sadly, other than 220, I don't find stock headlamps of any bike(that I have ridden) that are good enough to ride above 60-80(depending on road and traffic condition) in night. (That's my personal opinion).

6. Minimize your breaks and their duration. So club your fuel breaks with quick bite (carry energy rich stuff to eat).

7. Hydrate yourself well during the ride. A camel bag comes in really handy or a jugad water bottle.

8. Reduce the variables that could hamper your ride:
- Opt for tubeless tyre over tube.
- If can use only tube then fill in puncture sealant.
- Carry basic tool kit and spares with tubless puncture repair kit, portable air pump. (And learn how to use it).

9. Start after a good night's sleep. Plan your start time and place so that, when you are fresh and its daytime, you are on a good section of road where you can cover the maximum distance.

10. Do a small ride before the big one. I find it helpful, as it helps my body get used to of sitting on bike and riding for long time.

11. Try to carry a GPS, don't rely on odo meter for the distance. GPS also helps you in showing your moving and overall average speeds.

12 Try to cover some (30-40) extra km's than needed. Do not count the distance that you might have covered while being lost in a city or did some short 'U'turn IBA most probably won't consider it.

13. Carry a dark visor for daytime (or plain visor with shades) and a good, scratch free, visor for night time.

14. Carry warm inner if the night time can get colder.

15. Get your bike serviced and do some 200-300km's before starting on with the ride. Make sure all indicators, lights, horn are fully functional.

Needless to say, good riding gear is a given.

These are the points that I can remember right away. Deepak and others who have been able to complete the rides successfully can add their bits.

Edit: One very important point that I missed. Never fight with sleep. You are fighting a lost battle. The moment you feel slightly sleepy, just pull over and catch some sleep. Start only when you are feeling fresh. Wash face with cold water and resume. If you think sleep is getting too much, just abort the run, if the sleep requires a long time.

**Juris** · 03-20-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Slight correction - 72 Kmph in 23 hours; always keep 1 hour for buffer.
Slighter correction - 78.1 Kmph in 21 hours; keep aside every 5 min per 1 hour for 23 hours for re-fuelling, ATM receipts, butt break

Well Aargee you are good at maths

. See the whole idea is to maintain an average speed of 70.42 Kmpl for 24 hours in order to cover 1610 + 5% tolerance = 1690 Kms. I successfully completed my SS1600K(its approved and official) in 22.5 hours and bun burner in 35 hours 55 mins(http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...er-1500-a.html) and covered 1701 kms on Odo for SS. It entirely depends upon the person how to manage the breaks(fuel stops, other breaks). And obviously one has to include breaks in the average speed.
I targeted maximum kms in first 24 hours and I could cover 950 kms in first 24 hours.

**forcooler** · 03-20-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by nav75 View Post

Are you used to of staying awake from 11pm for 24hrs?
If not, I'll suggest to reconsider your start time.

Nope.
Though the road till Dharwad is good but after that, if you have not ridden before it could be an issue, specially when you will be riding to maintain some minimum speed. But that's just me.

I'll say that, you start after a good night's sleep (around 5-5:30am). This way you will be past Kolhapur by 8-8:30am (Pune - Kolhapur during day time got a bit traffic to safely do high average speeds).

:

I'm ok with staying up late so thats not a problem for me thankfully.

BUT,as I mentioned before, I am skeptical about the nightime riding.So how about this..

I leave at 1.30am instead,reach belgaum(the point till I'm acquainted with the road and hence can maintain speed) around 5am-ish,and then onwards it'll mostly be daylight,hence i wont have to ride in the dark on unknown roads.

I feel this might be a good balance between the pros and cons of each case.

A few other question popped up iin my head too:

Will i NEED to top up/replace the engine oil during the trip?(p220,fresh motul 300v right now) and what about the chain lube? or is it a kind of 'just better that you do it' type thing?

Thanks again.

**aargee** · 03-20-2012, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by forcooler View Post

BUT,as I mentioned before, I am skeptical about the nightime riding.So how about this..

I'm not sure if you're skeptical or is it the fear on the outcome, somehow I perceive not so confident feeling from your repeated questions.

If you've to get this done, first you need to believe in yourself & get rid off all the nitty gritties & just focus on the ride, getting to know where the ATM's, fuel stations, basically the map. All other things are immaterial.

Forget the engine oil change, tire pressure, cables etc, like I said before

Originally posted by aargee View Post

service your P220 well & run it for about 200-300 Kms before you carry out SS. The only limitation I see on this trip is...you

Do a route check on a weekend; ride all way from Pune to BLR on a Saturday & BLR to Pune on a Sunday, trust me, you'll start thinking about BB ride, not about SS anymore.

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