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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mik View Post
    We will know from you whether it was doable or not :-) There is this thing i have seen over the last 6 years of touring in North India. Second hand knowledge, while always welcome, is never to be taken to heart. Even if someone says - the road is closed, you must go check it out yourself. Even a few hours old info is stale and not reliable. You can always turn back, richer with experience. Last time on Jalori pass in Dec end with hardly any snow , i had a chat with the tea shop owner and he said that Jalori is kept open most days of the year. There are bull dozers on either side of the pass.
    5 days is a good chunk of time. You can go to Kinnaur i.e Delhi - Narkanda - Rampur - Sangla - Chitkul - turn back (there is no road beyond that) - Rampur - Jalori pass - Shoja - Mandi - Delhi.
    A few things you should keep in mind
    1. While duke is a crazy bike, better to maintain constant sub 100 speeds in the plains so that you don't tire out easily while climbing hills.
    2. Keep yourself hydrated but don't take too many breaks. It will be good to build endurance so take a break only when you need it.
    3. About tyres - last year many KTMs went to Ladakh on stock tyres. You can get their opinion about how the tyres performed on gravel/sandy/icy roads. Maybe you can give stock tyres a shot on the prep ride.
    4. I presume, you have all the safety gear.
    5. For really cold weather which you might encounter on the Leh ride - it is important not to have any spaces in your clothing from where air can get in. Eg. boots, gloves, collar. The more insulated you are, the more comfortable you will be. Same goes for rain water.
    I guess I will do this. Seems nice and doable in 5 days. So the route will be something like this ? :

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    And I will give the stock tyres a shot on this ride.

    Regarding the safety gear, i dont have a proper riding jacket, but I do own a leather jacket which is pretty sturdy though it has no armor. Shall I get a riding jacket ?
    I will be buying the knox knee guards and The Spartan Ares gloves. Do I need anything else ?
    When life gives you Yamaha, make it RD350 not R15. :D

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Abhishek2255 View Post
      I guess I will do this. Seems nice and doable in 5 days. So the route will be something like this ? :


      And I will give the stock tyres a shot on this ride.

      Regarding the safety gear, i dont have a proper riding jacket, but I do own a leather jacket which is pretty sturdy though it has no armor. Shall I get a riding jacket ?
      I will be buying the knox knee guards and The Spartan Ares gloves. Do I need anything else ?
      I would advise you to get a proper riding jacket. Accidents can happen anytime and grinding on the surface of the road with just a leather jacket will be a very unpleasant experience. You owe it not just to your own safety but also to your parents who have put trust in you. Apart from the knee guards, invest in riding gloves which go over the riding jacket(wrist protection aside, they will give you protection from the cold also). So, get something like a DSG primal or Cramster TRG2. Also, wear at least ankle length boots. Even basic knee length boots from the army stores in cantt market will suffice (1.5k approx)

      Regarding the itinerary
      Day 1: Delhi (leave early by 4 am - multiple benefits - much lesser traffic + no cops in sonepat, panipat area who will fine any two wheeler going above 50kmph if they want to)
      Reach Jeori or Sarahan(the more picturesque option) This will be a hard riding day. You can also drop anchor in Rampur.
      Day 2:Rampur/Sarahan/Jeori to Chitkul (leisurely ride with plenty of photographic opportunities. You should definitely hit some snow near Sangla/Chitkul)
      Day 3: Chitkul to Shoja
      day 4: Shoja to Chandigarh
      day 5: chd to delhi

      Petrol pumps
      After Jeori you will get one in powari (havnt seen it functioning though whenever i have crossed it plus it wont be in your route.) Also a new petrol pump in Sangla (opened a year back)
      Tank up in Jeori (it is just a km before main jeori) to avoid any complications.
      day 4 and 5 are easy so that even if you lose time somewhere, you can easily make it up.
      Best of luck!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mik View Post
        I would advise you to get a proper riding jacket. Accidents can happen anytime and grinding on the surface of the road with just a leather jacket will be a very unpleasant experience. You owe it not just to your own safety but also to your parents who have put trust in you. Apart from the knee guards, invest in riding gloves which go over the riding jacket(wrist protection aside, they will give you protection from the cold also). So, get something like a DSG primal or Cramster TRG2. Also, wear at least ankle length boots. Even basic knee length boots from the army stores in cantt market will suffice (1.5k approx)

        Regarding the itinerary
        Day 1: Delhi (leave early by 4 am - multiple benefits - much lesser traffic + no cops in sonepat, panipat area who will fine any two wheeler going above 50kmph if they want to)
        Reach Jeori or Sarahan(the more picturesque option) This will be a hard riding day. You can also drop anchor in Rampur.
        Day 2:Rampur/Sarahan/Jeori to Chitkul (leisurely ride with plenty of photographic opportunities. You should definitely hit some snow near Sangla/Chitkul)
        Day 3: Chitkul to Shoja
        day 4: Shoja to Chandigarh
        day 5: chd to delhi

        Petrol pumps
        After Jeori you will get one in powari (havnt seen it functioning though whenever i have crossed it plus it wont be in your route.) Also a new petrol pump in Sangla (opened a year back)
        Tank up in Jeori (it is just a km before main jeori) to avoid any complications.
        day 4 and 5 are easy so that even if you lose time somewhere, you can easily make it up.
        Best of luck!
        Thank you so much for taking out the time
        I will go with this itinerary and can I PM you regarding the riding gear cause I guess this is not the right place to talk about it ?
        When life gives you Yamaha, make it RD350 not R15. :D

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        • #34
          Sure thing!
          It would be best to keep this thread for Ladakh discussions only, we are going OT OT OT

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          • #35
            Originally posted by madelikeagun View Post
            If you ask me, the Srinagar route roads are better, no much challenge really. The scenes are beautiful and you see people all the time. The Manali Leh route if if you want the adventure, adreline pumping, challenge your patience and all the last remaining will power you have. Roads are non existence most of the way, the roads ahead are unpredictable. However the picture is breathtaking, unlike any other you can experience.

            Experienced riders will always recommend you to start via Srinagar mostly because you get used to the altitude.

            Thanks for the recommendation, madelikeagun.
            After reading most of the Leh travellogues, I too believe that starting from Srinagar will be a good idea.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by automagically View Post
              Thanks for the recommendation, madelikeagun.
              After reading most of the Leh travellogues, I too believe that starting from Srinagar will be a good idea.
              I have not followed the conversation, but i hope you do plan on traversing the Leh- Manali route as well ! Without that, the experience is incomplete. On the Srinagar route, you will get acclimatized better but its not like Manali - Leh is some death trap. We went in the thick of monsoons in August when it was a snow and slush fest - with pillion. But the experience was divine. Only thing to take care of would be the AMS so pop in some diamox if your doc is ok with it. (Some people are allergic)
              Also, "bad roads" is a relative term. In June 2012, the roads were in much better shape than in previous years and its only getting better. BRO (border roads org) Rocks !

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              • #37
                Hi Guys...Thanks for the help.......
                We are actually planning to during last week of april. We will leave bangalore by 26th April.
                Also we are quite confused as in should we opt for a car( Swift) or bike(Karizma ZMR and Pulser 220) for this trip....I also put my trip details Can you please check and suggest me any changes
                We are also planning to cover des in route (may not be a total tour of place but a glance in the night)
                Hyderabad
                Nagpur
                Gwalior
                Agra
                New Delhi
                Rishikesh
                Shimla
                Manali
                Leh
                Kargil
                Dras
                Srinagar
                Jammu Tawi
                Amritsar
                Jaisalmer
                Jodhpur
                Vadodara
                Ahemdabad
                Mumbai
                Bangalore
                Last edited by kuladeep Anumala; 02-25-2013, 04:33 PM. Reason: spelling mistAKES

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by kuladeep Anumala View Post
                  Hi Guys...Thanks for the help.......
                  We are actually planning to during last week of april. We will leave bangalore by 26th April.
                  Also we are quite confused as in should we opt for a car( Swift) or bike(Karizma ZMR and Pulser 220) for this trip....I also put my trip details Can you please check and suggest me any changes
                  We are also planning to cover des in route (may not be a total tour of place but a glance in the night)
                  Hyderabad
                  Nagpur
                  Gwalior
                  Agra
                  New Delhi
                  Rishikesh
                  Shimla
                  Manali
                  Leh
                  Kargil
                  Dras
                  Srinagar
                  Jammu Tawi
                  Amritsar
                  Jaisalmer
                  Jodhpur
                  Vadodara
                  Ahemdabad
                  Mumbai
                  Bangalore
                  First things first. Manali - Leh will not be open at the time you are planning to go. May end is minimum.
                  Also, are the places you mentioned night-halts or general route you intend to follow ?
                  In case of the latter, you don't seem to have planned for any sight-seeing in Ladakh.
                  In case of the former, Manali to Leh is going to be quite a feat and pointless if this is the first time you are going. Generally Manali to Leh takes minimum two days.
                  Also, any particular reason for choosing Bangalore - Hyderabad - Nagpur route ?
                  Bangalore to Delhi you can do in three days comfortably. If Agra is a priority, you can take the detour from Jaipur to Agra.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mik View Post
                    First things first. Manali - Leh will not be open at the time you are planning to go. May end is minimum.
                    Also, are the places you mentioned night-halts or general route you intend to follow ?
                    In case of the latter, you don't seem to have planned for any sight-seeing in Ladakh.
                    In case of the former, Manali to Leh is going to be quite a feat and pointless if this is the first time you are going. Generally Manali to Leh takes minimum two days.
                    Also, any particular reason for choosing Bangalore - Hyderabad - Nagpur route ?
                    Bangalore to Delhi you can do in three days comfortably. If Agra is a priority, you can take the detour from Jaipur to Agra.
                    Hi,

                    We are actually planning to follow the above mentioned route...... in case if there any other route can you please suggest us?
                    Also this our first trip to Leh.................we saw quite a few websites which mentions to take a tour btw April-Sept so ......i am a bit confused now.
                    Secondly for us only priority is New Delhi-Shimla- Manali-Leh-Kargil- Dras- Srinagar-jammu tawi.
                    So can you please suggest how can we plan this tour going ahead.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kuladeep Anumala View Post
                      Hi,

                      .................we saw quite a few websites which mentions to take a tour btw April-Sept so ......i am a bit confused now.
                      Its almost impossible for you to do Manali-Leh by road in April, due to snow. As our summer season is their snow melting time (still lot of snow for us) & only time when we can go via roads. the best time is May end (provided it opens) - Sept.

                      Read this, which can help you gain more details Ladakh Travel Guide | BCMTouring


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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
                        Its almost impossible for you to do Manali-Leh by road in April, due to snow. As our summer season is their snow melting time (still lot of snow for us) & only time when we can go via roads. the best time is May end (provided it opens) - Sept.

                        Read this, which can help you gain more details Ladakh Travel Guide | BCMTouring

                        It is not almost impossible. It is impossible. The road opens mid may. Still to be on the safe side take end May- beginning of June. I have locals travel before the road opens and after the road is closed to general public. But they do not go the entire route, but only to their villages.
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                        • #42
                          Thanks a lot Bro .......i will plan accordingly........

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tusharxtreme View Post
                            I m planning for leh in May last week as i have heard that the Srinagar-kargil-leh route is open by then...
                            The Manali Rohtang route opens mostly in june first week....So my plan is to go via srinagar and come via manali or if that route is not open will be returning via the same route....
                            Will be travelling solo till now... But dont know maybe will get company of my friends till that time...
                            Will be heading on my CBZ-Xtreme from Delhi...
                            hi guys tushar is right srinagar- leh route is open first manali-rohtang route is little dices you can't say any think about it now it will be open or not at that time if you riding inn May you should take srinagar - leh route. it easy to ride compare to manali route.

                            last year I had done mumbai -leh- mumbai by manali route on my Hunk
                            born to ride

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
                              Sharing some stuff I have collected from various sites like BCMT & others.
                              And attaching my route plan I made last time, didn't follow it completely though.. As messing up the timetable was more fun
                              Hope it helps a bit
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                              Thanks rachit for sharing the stuff
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                              • #45
                                Hi Friends,
                                can anyone explain me how to repair "Puncture" while on LEH stretch?
                                is that necessary to keep foot pump and puncture kit?

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