Engine Oils

[Drifty]

Hey Drifty Thanks
Mineral Oil for 3k KMS ??? I thought limit is 1.5K - 2K ?
I will check out A.H. Helmets i also want to buy gloves...
I don't know Shelf? Did you mean Shell?

Opss..typo mistake..its 'SHELL'
And for 3k kms I mean the odo reading on my bike.Mineral oil lasts for around 2-2.5k,the viscosity decreases after that.

[velociraptor13]

Guys as you suggested i tried to find Motul, I couldn't find it so i had to use elf Moto 4 Gold cause i already did 1600KMS on previous oil it's been 400 KMS on elf going good i am going to drain it as it compete 1000 KMS

how is elf?
is it bad?
where i can find Motul in Mumbai

Since you stay in andheri there is a shop called sharani autoparts in Marol.Its right beside akbar travels.I have tried every oil available in the market and found the honda 20w40 oil the best for the unicorn.
My observation-
Motul any grade-stay out of it
Petronas-dont even think of it,screwed up the block piston
Shell-10w40 satisfactory performance
veedol swift-used it upto 3000km without any issues
Gulf pride 4t-the best for summer
Honda-all rounder,though life only till 2000km
Castrol-dont even think about it

[Pinaki]

Unless you are daily starting & operating your engine below 10C ambient temperatures , and more often below 0C , it would be unwise to run the unicorn engine on a 10wt or 15wt oil . Any 20w40 would be better in managing heat & wear & in the long run ( life of engine parts ) . Be it Honda's 20w40 or Servo multigrade 20w40 . The lighter oils may feel better as it revs up quicker but surely you'll have to pay a price in the long run IMHO .

[vigneshg]

Synthetic oil for Unicorn

Hi all,

I own a year old Honda CB Unicorn and am happy with it.
I'd like to try a fully-synthetic engine oil such as Motul 300V or Shell Advance Ultra. However these synthetic oils are available only in grades like 10W40 or 15W50 and not in the Honda-specified 20W40.
Is it ok to go ahead and use a synthetic oil of different grade?
I have heard that the grade can be different as long as one of the values (**W**) is same. Which one?

Also, my gearbox is very noisy. There is a loud thud whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd gear. I have complained about this during service several times but nothing has changed. Any particular reason why its so noisy?

Thanks

Regards,
Vignesh G
[email protected]

[Noor]

Thread approved and merged

[MSN1]

Hi all,

I own a year old Honda CB Unicorn and am happy with it.
I'd like to try a fully-synthetic engine oil such as Motul 300V or Shell Advance Ultra. However these synthetic oils are available only in grades like 10W40 or 15W50 and not in the Honda-specified 20W40.
Is it ok to go ahead and use a synthetic oil of different grade?
I have heard that the grade can be different as long as one of the values (**W**) is same. Which one?

Also, my gearbox is very noisy. There is a loud thud whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd gear. I have complained about this during service several times but nothing has changed. Any particular reason why its so noisy?

Thanks

Regards,
Vignesh G
[email protected]

yeah for semi synthetic and synthetic oils the value before W is lower than the mineral oil

example if mineral grade is 20 w 40 a compatible semi synthetic is 15 w 40 or 10 w 40 same goes with synthetic synthetic also either 10 w 40 or even 5 w 40

untill the last number 40 remains same its compatible.

hope already your CB unicorn is atleast 5000 kms old or thru with the run-in period

[Pinaki]

Hi all,
I own a year old Honda CB Unicorn and am happy with it.
I'd like to try a fully-synthetic engine oil such as Motul 300V or Shell Advance Ultra. However these synthetic oils are available only in grades like 10W40 or 15W50 and not in the Honda-specified 20W40.
Is it ok to go ahead and use a synthetic oil of different grade?
I have heard that the grade can be different as long as one of the values (**W**) is same. Which one?
Also, my gearbox is very noisy. There is a loud thud whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd gear. I have complained about this during service several times but nothing has changed. Any particular reason why its so noisy?

I haven't used synthetic oils that much , others may be able to comment on it better . But I think , since synthetic oils do lubricate better and dissipate heat better it should be ok to use a 15w40 or 15w50 atleast in place of a 20w40 without any worry . The caveat being that synthetic oils are prone to disappear and leak from some engines while they work fine in others .
You have not heard correctly , not ok to use a different grade unless you have a good reason to , like say driving in very cold or hot weathers for prolonged periods . Better stick to your recommended grade .
For your gear shifting thud ; clean , lubricate the drive chain and adjust the chain slack correctly . Adjust your clutch correctly . Use good 20w40 oil and replace a bit early say at 1500-2000 kms everytime . It should go away.

[akatl]

Hai,
My xtreme done 35000kms. First time up to 34000kms i used rec 10w30 grade mineral oil( HH[tide water], motul, gulf) only and i got 40-45kmpl. Now i change to 10w40 shell advance AX7 ss oil and mileage suddenly increased to 50-59kmpl. No changes in riding style. Engine is more smooth and performance is same. What is the reason?

[Rtrlover83]

Best oil for P200

Hey guys need some urgent help here

Which is the best oil suited (if possible the approx prices too) for my pal's Pulsar 200, which has clocked >35000kms? (FS not needed, minerals or SS will do). I think Shell Advance won't be enough because they don't come in X 50 grades right?

Lately He's been using an oil which is recommended for cars So it's pretty urgent dude's...

[vkavadia]

Hey guys need some urgent help here

Which is the best oil suited (if possible the approx prices too) for my pal's Pulsar 200, which has clocked >35000kms? (FS not needed, minerals or SS will do). I think Shell Advance won't be enough because they don't come in X 50 grades right?

Lately He's been using an oil which is recommended for cars So it's pretty urgent dude's...

Pulsars love Motul..

3100 - 220 bucks per litre .. lasts about 3000kms..
5100 - SS 450/litre.. the best deall

[Rtrlover83]

Pulsars love Motul..

3100 - 220 bucks per litre .. lasts about 3000kms..
5100 - SS 450/litre.. the best deall

Thanks for the advice

BTW, it is Motul 3000 4T plus right? ( 3100 )

[Prakritij]

late

man, I visited this thread little too late.
I went to Yamaha svc to get a FS oil bottle to use later and asked them the make and its rating they use. They gave me Mobil 1 0W40 Fully Synthetic oil and told me its what they are using while servicing R15
I bought it foe Rs.1150/- which I think I will never see again.
Tonight I came across this thread and found out that 0W40 is useless on Motorcycles. I have not used it yet and I doubt they'll return my Money if I take it back(also I don't know the local language and it'll be hard to persuade them as they have been using this grade of oil since eternity). Will a complain to Yamaha do any good as they have been using and selling non-recommended oil? I found out this grade of oil is used in Automobiles and cause clutch slippage and damage if used on Motorcycles.
Please advice



RIDE SAFE

[Pinaki]

Thanks for the advice
BTW, it is Motul 3000 4T plus right? ( 3100 )

Right , that was likely a typo , it's Motul 3000 4T plus (mineral) and comes in three grades AFAIK - 10w30 , 20w40 & 15w50 . P200 should use the 15w50 I think .

man, I visited this thread little too late.
I went to Yamaha svc to get a FS oil bottle to use later and asked them the make and its rating they use. They gave me Mobil 1 0W40 Fully Synthetic oil and told me its what they are using while servicing R15
I bought it foe Rs.1150/- which I think I will never see again.
Tonight I came across this thread and found out that 0W40 is useless on Motorcycles. I have not used it yet and I doubt they'll return my Money if I take it back(also I don't know the local language and it'll be hard to persuade them as they have been using this grade of oil since eternity). Will a complain to Yamaha do any good as they have been using and selling non-recommended oil? I found out this grade of oil is used in Automobiles and cause clutch slippage and damage if used on Motorcycles.
Please advice

No yamaha authorised service center should do that . Yamaha certainly would not sanction it .

[Rtrlover83]

[QUOTE=Pinaki;671064]Right , that was likely a typo , it's Motul 3000 4T plus (mineral) and comes in three grades AFAIK - 10w30 , 20w40 & 15w50 . P200 should use the 15w50 I think .

@ Pinaki

Thanks to you too, bro. Yes, it's the 15w50 grade that's suited for the Pulsar 200. I have recommended Motul 3000 4T plus to my pal and told to use it ASAP.

@ ALL

Started using Motul 5100 ester 10w40 4T from last week after clocking 8100 km. This is indeed the best one, and i'll be sticking to Motul brand for a long, long time for good The engine feels much more smoother now, especially at higher revs. And i guess this thing protects the engine internals at high temps too

[Rtrlover83]

[QUOTE=Prakritij;670997]man, I visited this thread little too late.
I went to Yamaha svc to get a FS oil bottle to use later and asked them the make and its rating they use. They gave me Mobil 1 0W40 Fully Synthetic oil and told me its what they are using while servicing R15
I bought it foe Rs.1150/- which I think I will never see again.
Tonight I came across this thread and found out that 0W40 is useless on Motorcycles. I have not used it yet and I doubt they'll return my Money if I take it back(also I don't know the local language and it'll be hard to persuade them as they have been using this grade of oil since eternity). Will a complain to Yamaha do any good as they have been using and selling non-recommended oil? I found out this grade of oil is used in Automobiles and cause clutch slippage and damage if used on Motorcycles.
Please advice

@ Prakritij

Feel real sorry for you Yes the Full Synth oil from Mobil 1 for 4 stroke bikes is the Racing 4T 10w40 and i reckon it's one of the best out there. Could you ask them to replace the one you've bought with the Racing 4T ? (as you haven't tampered the seal i guess) But chances are, they won't be having it.

Anyways you didn't use it on your baby R1, that's the best part.

I don't know when these, (not all of them) people, the one's at the SVC's and shops are ever gonna learn!