Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I beg to understand why am I being asked so ? I am new to the forum but not to riding and have suggested many friends to join it, given its freedom of opinion and the repository of knowledge

I completely agree to this that the armors cannot be compared to the armors of the jacket that are sold at a higher price point, thus I was suggesting the chap to try and extend his budget and buy a jacket that is tried/tested and testified by users in the market- Aspida/Cramster/Rynox/etc. I felt the quality of that particular jacket labelled "Scimatar" was as bad as those fake A* ones (have not seen a Vega Jacket yet). Just to give you a background, I hail from a family that has seen materials day-in and day-out. Again it was my opinion which I chose to share. I have seen brands/products being thrashed, compliment upon one's experience. I just did the same thing.

Sir, I request you to let me know what words of mine meant that Spartan was duping people? I was asked a question that why would a known company would sell it here. I had a simple answer to it- "To make money" (which not only spartan but all brands do business for). I just casted my opinion that the jacket was of very bad quality. While the rest is a fact that it being sold by Spartan.

My reply was based on the reply you had and the words you chose to express your thoughts/concerns.

To make money, as simple !

Selling shit at a lower price so that people are lured by the price to buy the shit only to realize after a few days/weeks/months that I was cheated ! Isn't that exactly what we mean by dumping !

My simple question, if it was a brand it would have some evidence of its existence- a facebook page/ a website to talk about its quality, country of existence, etc, etc. I couldn't find a shit ! I clearly see that Spartan is just trying to label a shitty product and sell it at a lower price because at that price it is not possible to sell quality products and if Spartan had put its own name on that product it would have hurt its own reputation. So you get a shitty product name it something and tag it as "Marketed by..Distributed by.." and to leverage on one's little built reputation to make money.

And most importantly, there's nothing like a new/old/senior/junior on the forum. We're all like minded folk who indulge in sharing knowledge with one another and the aim is to spread the 'right' education among the mass and make the motorcycling scenario safer than what it is now, be it the riding etiquette, riding gears etc.
A lot of 20 something years old boys are as mature if not more than a lot of older guys.
Since this is an open forum, one should word his concerns in a subtle manner is what was the essence of my post.

I understand what your concern was, but the way you put it across was demeaning and the post did contain words like shit(ty), cheating, dumping etc. Therefore I asked you if you had some bad experience or proof of the same, so that we could take a collective action and voice your concern with the said brand.

[soumen.sam]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

1) You did not understand my post. What I meant was people might end up buying nothing at all. You didnt force him or anyone but you did say he took everyone for granted.
2) It is just the way you put things. Anyways it just my opinion.
3) Of course he should buy thats why I mentioned 10% of the value of the bike.
4) pt 1
5) You didnt say that, I did. Please read again. And isnt 2% too less? if you buy a bike of 2 lacs.. you would just spend 4k on gears?

P.S : not replying to this anymore. Goodluck with helping people.

[maninderz]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Guys any reviews of rodela riding gear?

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Oh, come on! This is not right! Please see the sturdiness, weight and the padding, not those graphics when comparing a 2k and 5k helmet.
Moreover, none of the <3.5k helmets come with a double D ring system for securing the helmet.

Agreed! But then if the rider is hell bent on dying then an Iron Man suit won't save him either.
The difference between medical bills when wearing a mesh jacket and a proper leather jacket is huge. It might just save you many many thousands if not the lakh rupees you invested.
Agreed you have a budget to adhere to, and the fact that you'd be getting 2 pieces of each.

Request you to go through the last 30-40 pages each of this (Riding Gear) thread and Helmets thread.

[prateek2210]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] : Leave it buddy, there is no point making them understand the basic points of riding gear and neither we have time (again) to tell them the difference between mesh, Cordura and leather gears.

I am still laughing at the sentence that under 2k helmets are good, rather still google ing which helmet is that good wrt to other good brands. Not to forget ISI helmets are available in every city at Road side vendors.

[soumen.sam]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Oh, come on! This is not right! Please see the sturdiness, weight and the padding, not those graphics when comparing a 2k and 5k helmet.
Moreover, none of the <3.5k helmets come with a double D ring system for securing the helmet.

[jRay]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I think you should start practicing removing helmets wearing gloves at home.. i have been doing it and i am getting better with the D Ring All the best

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Strangely my mother told me why you are wasting money on riding gear? (13k) i just told her that the medical bills will cost me more and since, i already suffered a double leg break she told me to get riding pants as well.


Just get a helmet and a Medical Insurance

same! My parents say don't waste money on helmets and gear. When i say what if i crash and break something? The conversation automatically leads to "We should've bought you a car" which is concluded by BIKES = Unsafe

[Shaktiv3]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

same! My parents say don't waste money on helmets and gear. When i say what if i crash and break something? The conversation automatically leads to "We should've bought you a car" which is concluded by BIKES = Unsafe

Your parents wants to pay another 4-5 lacs to get you a car, good, buy a car if they are insisting then sell it in Quikr and buy a top quality riding gear, a medical insurance (just in case) and return the balance amount to them and say "Lakshmi" ghar aa gayi

[jRay]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Your parents wants to pay another 4-5 lacs to get you a car, good, buy a car if they are insisting then sell it in Quikr and buy a top quality riding gear, a medical insurance (just in case) and return the balance amount to them and say "Lakshmi" ghar aa gayi

Hahaha.
I pitched them the idea and they didn't seem to like it!

[Shaktiv3]

Re: What riding gear is suitable for me?

However, I am a college student, and can't really wear all riding gear to college.

I have a few questions regarding the riding jacket:
a. How bulky are riding jackets? Do they fit and look like any normal jacket or have a marked increase in bulk? If so, to what extent? And are there any thinner riding jackets available which solve the purpose? Can they be folded and put into a bag?

Yes, they are bulky because of the Armour in them. You will have broader shoulders because of the shoulder armour, to fold them you have to remove the back armour (on a everyday basis not recommended) . If you remove the armours it will look like a normal jacket.

If not too big or bulky, I can accommodate and manage to add a riding jacket too, which can be folded and put into my bag too.
b. Will a normal jacket help?

Well, a Normal jacket wont help much except for saving you from road rash. if you end up buying a normal jacket get a elbow guard.

Regarding the pants/knee pads, I don't see any solution to that, any suggestions anyone? The Spartan Knee Guards can be worn inside. Try them with formals and then decide.

Which are good brands I could look for? Spartan, Rynox, Cramster, Zeus, DSG, Solace (All have their respective websites, go through their inventory and shortlist what you like) For Helmets MT & LS2 but Your studds is good too.

Go through the respective brand websites and shortlist the products you like and are well within your budget. and let us know.. hope it helps ..

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Well, I would say get any helmet but Vega Boolean. I know many people use it because it looks cool. But the latch holding the lower portion of the helmet is flimsy.
For one, nothing beats full face helmets. Modular helmets attempt to give you the best of both worlds but don't succeed all the time.
We have had scary times in the past with many members including a certain moderator whose Vega Boolean snapped into 2 pieces from the chin area after a fall at 50 kmph.
If you really want a helmet in the 2k range, look at Studds Shifter series.
But we should better discuss helmets in it's own thread and not here.

[AngadV]

Re: What riding gear is suitable for me?

Go through the respective brand websites and shortlist the products you like and are well within your budget. and let us know.. hope it helps ..

Well I don't see any point of having a riding jacket and removing the armour from it, riding jackets aren't too high from the looks angle haha. One thing I could do would be to remove only the back armour, leaving all the shoulder/elbow armour, Im fine with shoulder broadness. Would it be foldable after removing the back armour? I'll look at the knee protector, as long as its underneath i don't have a problem. Regarding helmet, Ill stick to my current helmet in that case haha, I quite like it.
Thanks for replying

[Doga]

Re: What riding gear is suitable for me?

Well I don't see any point of having a riding jacket and removing the armour from it, riding jackets aren't too high from the looks angle haha. One thing I could do would be to remove only the back armour, leaving all the shoulder/elbow armour, Im fine with shoulder broadness. Would it be foldable after removing the back armour? I'll look at the knee protector, as long as its underneath i don't have a problem. Regarding helmet, Ill stick to my current helmet in that case haha, I quite like it.
Thanks for replying

So you buy a jacket. Chuck the back armour and keep the shoulder armour? That's like order a pizza, discard all the cheese and only keep the toppings!
Dude, you need to protect your spine. I'd suggest chuck it alright, but buy a proper CE level 1(if possible level 2) back armour and use in your jacket.
Trust me, even a low speed unlucky fall can result in a damaged spine and you can spend the rest of your life as a vegetable.
The armour is not going to protect much in very high speed crashes or from torsional injuries of the spine(like an impact to only one shoulder leading to rapid rotation of the body and the spine ends up twisted), but in most low-medium speed scenarios it will come useful. Do not chuck it please!

[Shaktiv3]

Re: What riding gear is suitable for me?

Well I don't see any point of having a riding jacket and removing the armour from it, riding jackets aren't too high from the looks angle haha. One thing I could do would be to remove only the back armour, leaving all the shoulder/elbow armour, Im fine with shoulder broadness. Would it be foldable after removing the back armour? I'll look at the knee protector, as long as its underneath i don't have a problem. Regarding helmet, Ill stick to my current helmet in that case haha, I quite like it.
Thanks for replying

Removing the armours from it once you reach college i meant it will aid in packing it in your backpack. Yes, You can fold it after removing the back armour.
So i guess, all Your backpack will have is a pair of Gloves, knee guards and a Jacket.. No Books :P

[AngadV]

Re: What riding gear is suitable for me?

So you buy a jacket. Chuck the back armour and keep the shoulder armour? That's like order a pizza, discard all the cheese and only keep the toppings!
Dude, you need to protect your spine. I'd suggest chuck it alright, but buy a proper CE level 1(if possible level 2) back armour and use in your jacket.
Trust me, even a low speed unlucky fall can result in a damaged spine and you can spend the rest of your life as a vegetable.
The armour is not going to protect much in very high speed crashes or from torsional injuries of the spine(like an impact to only one shoulder leading to rapid rotation of the body and the spine ends up twisted), but in most low-medium speed scenarios it will come useful. Do not chuck it please!

Do you have any suggestion regarding what I could do about it in that case? I wouldn't mind having to take out the back armour everyday, as I'd seem to have no other option, but again, where would I keep that? I doubt it would fit in a bag.. So I have no idea what to do about this..do you have any suggestions?

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Removing the armours from it once you reach college i meant it will aid in packing it in your backpack. Yes, You can fold it after removing the back armour.
So i guess, all Your backpack will have is a pair of Gloves, knee guards and a Jacket.. No Books :P

I anyways carry only one notebook haha :P
Agreed, I could put the jacket in bag after removing the back armour, the question is where would i keep the armour after that?