Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[The Monk]

Dear Xbhpians,

Recently i bought a kamo Jacket From Karol Bagh Which got torned in an accident while returning from Rishikesh. Now as the damage is like holes in the jacket, i was looking for the way to fix it. Patches will do but i could not find any place in delhi for the same.

Need all your help in finding a place to fix it.

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[B7ACKTHORN]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Dear Xbhpians,

Recently i bought a kamo Jacket From Karol Bagh Which got torned in an accident while returning from Rishikesh. Now as the damage is like holes in the jacket, i was looking for the way to fix it. Patches will do but i could not find any place in delhi for the same.

Need all your help in finding a place to fix it.

Awaiting Replies

Any mesh jacket after taking a slide, even low speed will melt due to friction no matter what textile it is. If the hole is small enough without complete rip, you can mend it with a piece of material with people who deal with stitching bags as they have the same materials more or less.

If it's ripped to an extent like gaping hole, you need to replace your jacket.

Cheers!
VJ



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[princesirohi]

Shall I sum it up in one word? Why do you think they have their logos in MotoGP and elsewhere, BRAND VALUE. Period.

i would also like to know how is DSG Nero a waterproof pant, it does not have a rain liner, that means the outer material is waterproof, and in that case, it has poor ventilation. i want to know more.

A textile can't be 100% waterproof at any cost, unless they have layers of insulating materials, though there are some real "WATERPROOF" jackets abroad. Talking about NERO, it is water-resistant, not completely waterproof. Sales gimmick used by most resellers.

Personally I think the NERO hasn't gotten such good reviews or that people opting for it. For what it's worth, it's a good riding pant for what I've seen and the hands on review I've heard about them.

Cheers!
VJ

well, brand value is something else, we want usefulness to us, and i was discussing that.

and nero pants being water resistant means it is neither water proof not have good ventilation.

Who said that the T-GP Plus Air is VFM..??

It is just that it the most affordable "genuine" Alpinestars Jacket available in India. And its NOT a Basic Jacket with JUST Brand Value. Its a High Quality Mesh / Hot Weather Jacket.

There is no Armor in the Chest and Back of the T-GP Plus Air, but just a comfort FOAM. One has to buy the CE certified protectors separately if any one needs them.

Also there is no inner liner (which is the way I like as I don't want to get an inner liner, ride with the hassle of carrying it around separately and keep misplacing it). The T-GP Plus Air is purely meant for hot weather riding.



We Indians want everything done with the least amount of Money.. We want our bike to be comfortable and economical to commute, power, fast and stable enough to go racing, torquey and comfortable for long distance touring, able to perform stunts on it, go off roading .. all with the SAME bike.

No wonder we want our riding gear to be Comfortable in Summer, Rain Proof in Monsoon and Warm in Winter at the same time.. all with the SAME gear.



Yeah we Indians are VFM junkies (I am one too).

yes i fully agree, we want VFM products, and Alpinestar T-GP plus air is purely a hot weather riding jacket, and it does not score well on back protection also.

Any mesh jacket after taking a slide, even low speed will melt due to friction no matter what textile it is. If the hole is small enough without complete rip, you can mend it with a piece of material with people who deal with stitching bags as they have the same materials more or less.

If it's ripped to an extent like gaping hole, you need to replace your jacket.

Cheers!
VJ



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hey, you mean to say all mesh jackets provide very less abrasion resistance..??

[shahbaz63]

Cramster TRG II Gloves added in my Gears...

First Impression - all positive till now, soft & comfortable .. waiting for it to stretch bit more.

[princesirohi]

congrats, do post some pics and initial impression and report.

[B7ACKTHORN]

well, brand value is something else, we want usefulness to us, and i was discussing that.

and nero pants being water resistant means it is neither water proof not have good ventilation.

yes i fully agree, we want VFM products, and Alpinestar T-GP plus air is purely a hot weather riding jacket, and it does not score well on back protection also.

Water-resistance means certain level of water protection, meaning you can ride in light drizzle, and if it rains heavily, you're gonna get soaked. Number one. Number two, you can wear a rain cover over your riding jacket or a waterproof wind cheater if possible over the jacket/pant for pure practicality purposes instead of a rain coat.

hey, you mean to say all mesh jackets provide very less abrasion resistance..??

Every textile motorcycle gear out there, having a slide on the tarmac is either gonna be ripped and melted depending on the slide, speed, but either one of the both is inevitable. This is where leather comes in, which offers good abrasion resistance and moreover you can't even see the difference that the jacket has kissed the road. Just a normal dust off and polish would make it more or less back to old form.

Cheers!
VJ

[Sunnyside_up!]

Honestly, I don't really feel the armor on my Alpinestars to be much different than my DSG.

Anyway if anyone is really that SERIOUS about protection (like calculating thickness of the armor).. one would also not miss out on wearing armored riding pants and riding shoes too, ALWAYS and EVERY SINGLE TIME one hops onto his bike.

@Payeng - really? Do you think you could take them out and compare them for us with some pics? You're absolutely right by the way - ATGATT is the ONLY way to ride!

Dear Xbhpians,

Recently i bought a kamo Jacket From Karol Bagh Which got torned in an accident while returning from Rishikesh. Now as the damage is like holes in the jacket, i was looking for the way to fix it. Patches will do but i could not find any place in delhi for the same.

Need all your help in finding a place to fix it.

Awaiting Replies

Your textile jacket has done what it was designed to do. Do not ask more of it and give it a proper burial. Jugaad fixes on armoured riding jackets are NOT recommended as the fabric is already weakened at that point and will not take another fall as well. Even leather jackets can only be fixed properly by professionals.

[shahbaz63]

Sunny Side UP & others.... Well I can do the job for you guys give me one week or some more time...

And the pitcure will be clear ...

ATGAT - Agreed ... but ATGAT doesnt only means wearing gears, ATGAT should be for our safety not for some tag or sake of wearnig, if you want to be ATGAT that doenst mean one should buy any Jacket, Pant, Gloves, etc etc & Helmet, till what extend it protect you is important, you can put Thermacol inside your Denim or Cargo too & you can put those Thermacol or foam padding inside your Regular Shirts too... I Hope you got my point.

Example - Just because you/we have 5k in hand at the moment you/we should not go for everything in that, go for best available that's it.

Another Example - My friend was riding on his p135to Shirdi (MaHarasthra), wearing local helmet, a Diesel Denim Jacket costing more then 3k & a Sparx...What happenes next ? Bike skid & he fel with his gf as a Pillion, Helmet got into 2 pieces from left side, Scratches on his body from Head to Waist (left side) its been 2 month but still those stiches & scartches are visible.


@Prince - Yup will be doing after my next tour which will start by this Saturday. but all i can say is in 2.3 - 2.7k range these 3 Gloves will fit anybody requirment...

1) Cramster TRG II - 2300/- "Even after being new I feel it very comfortable to wear, though I don't think its fully leather gloves but can provide very good protection for sure. Gloves looks good too, finishing is also good. Good for Daily & Touring use (Which I Prefer).

2) DSG Carbon 2750/- "Used it before buying TRG II, again very comfortable & gives you that soft feeling on palms, same as TRG II but Leather seems to be more thick compare to TRG II & also there is carbon protection over the wrist. but its a Huge & bulky one.

3) Rjays Swift - 2500/- 3,000- "Genuine Leather & Comfortable but on little higher cost. although worth."

['nYsus']

Is anyone using AGV Mayhem Sport?? i am planning to get a pair for myself... How are the gloves quality and protection wise.... Do the alpinestars score over AGV in safety rating??

Thanks in advance

[shahbaz63]

Cramster TRG II




Pics guys ... Cramster TRG II ...

[B7ACKTHORN]

Is anyone using AGV Mayhem Sport?? i am planning to get a pair for myself... How are the gloves quality and protection wise.... Do the alpinestars score over AGV in safety rating??

Thanks in advance

AGV and Cortech gloves are pretty much on the same breed if you ask me. Comparing Cortech, I'd say both more or less weight the same when it comes to quality and usage.

Pics guys ... Cramster TRG II ...

Crisp pics. Do post a ride review without fail.

Cheers!
VJ

[princesirohi]

Water-resistance means certain level of water protection, meaning you can ride in light drizzle, and if it rains heavily, you're gonna get soaked. Number one. Number two, you can wear a rain cover over your riding jacket or a waterproof wind cheater if possible over the jacket/pant for pure practicality purposes instead of a rain coat.

this is know, i was saying that it is neither waterproof nor have ventilation. this means neither good in this nor in that. instead one with separate rain liner is better- gives both.

Every textile motorcycle gear out there, having a slide on the tarmac is either gonna be ripped and melted depending on the slide, speed, but either one of the both is inevitable. This is where leather comes in, which offers good abrasion resistance and moreover you can't even see the difference that the jacket has kissed the road. Just a normal dust off and polish would make it more or less back to old form.

thats ok, i was saying that whether there are good mesh jackets since you said all mesh jacket will get ripped off in moderate accident, so in a long high speed slide, mesh will provide little abrasion resistance.

Cheers!
VJ

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[shahbaz63]

Added Rynox Magnetic Tank Bag in my Luggage... 2900 Costs ... Very Good & Very huge hold very well to tank.

[NewsReaper]

Alpinestars Andes Jacket & Pants launched -

Alpinestars Releases Andes Jacket & Pant | Adventure Gear | Ultimate MotorCycling

[B7ACKTHORN]

Alpinestars Andes Jacket & Pants launched -

Alpinestars Releases Andes Jacket & Pant | Adventure Gear | Ultimate MotorCycling

Nice. If it's $230 for both the pants and the jacket as a pair, then it's really a good proposition.

Cheers!
VJ