R15 over RTR anyday(if u hav the budget)....

ha ha ha u must be kidding me....p220 and stability are like mars&venus

@vipin: Please refrain from posting multiple times in such short periods of time!

I Personally think RTR 180 Vibes won't bother you much as it doesn't vibrate like RTR 160 & 150.

I own a RTR 180 White and What experience i had was smooth engine roaring like a tiger :P

As far as R15 is concerned, when i took test drive from my freind i felt that R15 Engine is getting more tear which can be felt from its engine sound as we all know R15 got an Overclocked 150cc Engine to give Racing Performance.

R15 Looks a real racing instinct
Liquid Cooling Rocks


RTR 180 engine feels calm even at higher speed.
RTR 180 Tyres are not so good if we compare it with R15 Tyres (R15 Tyres have got awesome grip)
RTR 180 Brakes are also awesome


No Offences to R15 Owners and Lovers

Also one thing, correct your poll RTR 180 doesn't exist with FI it comes with Courburetter

Karizma R, P220 might be heavy for you and won't suit your body



Thats what i think, No offences to anyone

Duh?!!!

If budget isn't a problem, then WHY THE HELL do you need the RTR ? My life has changed with the introduction of the Yamaha R15 to it Its more stable than any other bike in the country. Its the best around corners and has the fastest track times when compared with the P220, RTR180 or the Karizma/ZMR.

It might have a small 150cc mill, but that is able to generate enough ''ooomph'' for everybody :P. Speaking of vibrations, I dare you to find one well serviced R15 that vibrates even a little bit! While the RTR180 would destroy vibro-meters No offense to Apache fans, but right after the 2nd service, my best friends RTR180 is unbearable to sit on when its revs cross 6.5k... and the pillion seat becomes even more uncomfortable!

If money isn't the constraint, there shouldn't be a debate here.

P.S: I've left many RTR180s behind, in the wake of my bike's rubber trail :P So, your light frame shouldn't trouble the bike at all. I weigh 80kgs :P

That Line Offended me!

You may have left behind many RTR's but it doesnt means that R15 is the best and RTR's are for losers!.



The more money you throw the better product you get.
If you are tight on Budget then Go for the RTR or else R15.

Ooops my mistake didn't know that a person has R15 Affordable Budget. After all we can't say anything its his choice at last he gonna drive, but i say go first for R15 or else RTR 180

i second those lines.

and Mr. ZeNashB, tell your friend that he might be running leaner.

PLUS, i accept that RTR has vibrations. But, u shouldn't exaggerate that thing which misleads people. and get your facts right dude. it doesn't even give a hint of vibrations @ the RPM range u mentioned, i.e., 6.5K. it just vibrated in the range of 45-65 kmph and after that itz silky smooth even at 120kmph.

Hope you got your information database updated.

@ThreadStarter:

dude, just 2 things i would like to tell u as an unbiased suggestion.

RTR -> quicker(as it takes a lead in the initial time)... and i call it as RAW POWER (the vibes add weight to the word "raw" but i m having NO problem due to those vibes).

R15 -> much advanced tech. the whole magic lies cross 6K RPM. it will give u the feeling of a big bike at high speeds. but in the city ride, u will have to change gears frequently.

pick the one which suits u.

I hope you would still stick to your above statement if R15 hadn't come out with a fairing.

Because i have seen most of the times that the Fairing speaks louder as compared to other really nice things about the bike.

R15 any time

You are right bro...I agree with you .RTR180 vibrates between 4.5k-5.5k,after that there are negligible vibrations!!!!
@kunnucbz:Both bikes R15 as well as RTR180 equally suit all your requirements.Both are performance machines.R15 is a pure track tool.If you have the budget then go for R15 or else RTR180.

And all you R15 Owners, RTR 180 got more power 17.3 Bhp @ 8500 rpm and 15.5 Nm @ 6500 rpm not much Lolz.

If you race R15 without using 6th Gear with Apache RTR 180 i can say that R15 will be loosing machine

Spend some more time on the forum before passing comments which make a fool out of you.

Would request moderators to merge this thread in the provided link as a similar thread exists,

Thanks

Thread Merged

Thanks Sheel

Funny thing is, allow me to say, that R15 owners (no offence'-a formality indeed!) think they are gods on two-wheels in India (which actually is Avenger guys' sole right)..God save me from this killer attitude and arrogance of this lot. They think they are the most intelligent folks who have got this tech-marvel from Yamaha..Thank God that Rossi left Yamaha otherwise sometime back he was their Italian cousin riding the same Yamaha. It might be different, 800 cc may be and M1 but what's in a name they point out as long as it's a Yamaha....

The reason is quite simple for this- Everyone knows or accepts that R15 is the best desi-bike on offer in our country...Everyone is well aware what YAMAHA is compared to other competitors (save for Honda)...We as bikers/bike lovers have seen R1/R6 all over You-tube for the past few years..We respect Yamaha for everything they did to serve the enthusiasts..Kudos to Yamaha!

Coming down to R15..We all know it's simply the best but I so wished we all knew the reasons behind..It's in the headlines for all the wrong reasons among bikers..I guess..

As a buyer, I had zeroed in on the R15 and RTR..My budget was constraint to 80-85k but I am sure if required to get the R15 badly it could have been extended.. I didn't..

Reasons are quite simple..

-Tracks are light years away from my place, more painful is the fact how to get the bike there...but everyone boasts the fact that R15 is the fastest around track...Hard to understand how is it good to me?

-I ride to college daily..10 km ride hardly. What I come across is straight roads and chaotic traffic..Just one serious knee-down corner in my stint, which is always choked with trucks and buses from all around the nation..But if I had a R15, I'd think other way:

'I like to revv my R15 past 8k...It feels so good and maddening every morning that my bike doesn't even pull in second gear..Wow, downshifting is so much fun in my bike, the near dead exhaust note soothes my ear-buds'..

-And I oh-so-love the fairing. It's bulky and in heavy-traffic conditions is so much fun..You just can hit anyone anywhere.(2 Mickey ears RVM on either side)..What if I cannot get through narrow gaps because of my fairing..It saves me from windblasts at 40kmph...Talk about aerodynamics..
Also,I love the attention I get from fair-sex and young lads..Wow! I've turned out to be a complete poser..Thanks to Yamaha for such a marvellous product..

-I also go touring in my R15..It just breaks my spine and sores my butt. and the wrist-pain is unbearable, but you know what it's the best..
I love the way it loses out of steam going uphill...but who cares as long as it carves corners like no other?...
Seat-of-the-pants feel as someone was cribbing about some days back...

-As I am a racy-rider. Sometimes, if possible, me and my friends on those ugly and crappy bikes- Pulsars, RTRs and ZMA get into drag-races for 400m..They beat the shit out of my Yammie every time...But after the finish line where everybody halts..My R15 goes-on until the speedo hits 142kmph..That is what I call 4V-Liquid cooled, forged piston, Fuel injected marvel ..

Why the hell then you want the RTR or any other bike if you have no budget constraint? Silly bugger..

Go for the R15 eyes-shut. It's the best available bike in the market..

@Sarvajit: Thanks for your inputs! I'm sure the bike wud be fun, finance wouldn't be problem; I guess I would go for a test ride and book it by the coming weekend or so.

And the most important thing- about people like you helping me (anyone for that matter) on confusions/issues/concerns/questions about the bikes- I'm sure that you guys (we, shall I say?) are ready for that anytime- 2 pages full of responses in just a few hours... WOW, thats what xBhp is all about I guess (n then add some more to it)! Long live xBhp! Just loving it from day 1!

Thanks to all of you guys for the suggestions/input; RTR would be great choice indeed; however, for now R15 seems to be the overall preferred package in my situation.

I'm sorry for not responding to you all individually; however, I genuinely appreciate your prompt suggestions/information! I'm running out of time tonight and got to call it a day! Thanks once again!

Dude, there's something called as 'requirement', something called as 'open mindedness to ideas' and something known as 'perception'. Nothing is better than the other if you mix the above mentioned.

Though, I completely agree with your last sentence...!

Cheers!
Kunal