I didn't get the message well..Sort of confusing all this statement!

One more R15-armoured bhpian comes to life..Hope,you don't gun us poor beggars down with your marvel like other people around..

Congrats for your ride though..

Also, Don't feel offended...According to your requirements I would have happily suggested you to go for R15 over RTR..If you are making use of the goodies there's nothing that beats the R15 then..But if you are not..time to open those shut-eyes and smell the coffee!

Funny ?

If you do realize,you,in your above quote have managed to generalize ALL R15 owners as posers !
Replying to the rest of your post seems futile, as you would only end up taking an R15 owners view as "arrogance" ...
You an ardent admirer of 'Dubya' ? ( You are either with US or against US .. )

Yeah? So?..

Come over here and hang-me-to-death for that mistake...Or shall I commit suicide? If this is not arrogance your racing-not-killing instincts are bothering me..

There's no room for errors,no?
Actually my brother owns one R15 too.It's parked alongside my RTR.He's not at all arrogant but listens the good and bad points about his bike.If he were to suggest the R15 to anyone,he just won't go on saying blindingly ,'It's the best! It's the best! It's the best..Go for it-like I am saying.Blindly!".. Never attempted to kill me either..

Apologies to 'non-arrogant owners',especially to you Nirav. Sadly though the majority is actually,arrogant!

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Guys !

Relax !

Me too no offences to anyone

so all you guys don't mind

I think it is inside our heart that the bike we own we think it as superior like i think my RTR to be superior hehehe

So no offences to anyone out here

Whatever number of R15's are brought at my place is because of its fairing and not its technology,
RTR 180 is bought because it is available in white, ZMR was beyond the reach of many.

So stop generalizing.

Point out the good facts about a Motorcycle along with its cons, it would be much appreciated, a particular Motorcycle may suit one rider more aptly than the other, no two riders are same.

And know what you post and not 'what I heard' things. As there is one post which is more than that. You may have hundreds of miles of riding experience on the RTR-180 and R15, but then you aren't always right. Amply highlighted in the last page.

barely 500mtr race is not a drag...drag should be min 2 kms with enough braking space....anyways race clearly explains the RTR 180's better 0-60....though i feel R15 rider is a amateur.

for the topic starter

RTR 180 and R15 both are totaly diffrent bikes u cant compare them. as u mentioned earlier u would like to do stunting on your bike so R15 is clearly NO for u because it not meant for stunting..normal pop up wheelies and simple endo's just for posing sometimes is diffrent thing though. but overall if u think about stunting then don't go for it. but u said u would like to do drags also then also my friend R15 is not for you. For stunting according to me is P220s..for drags p220fs.in these two areas nothing can beat pulsars. RTR 180 can be used for both but it wouldn't be best in any areas and you can't be always satisfied because your bike would not perfect in any field.

i'm a R15 owner so its experience by me:
If you want feel of a SBK practical power with proper design so that u can feel it to its full extent. best cornering, braking, riding posture,most technicaly advanced, and for many years to come because its Yamaha. and best looks also. so also good for posing seeking attention. getting noticed everywhere. and for girls asking for rides

so finaly your call test ride all the bikes you are thinking of it would be most helpful.

so all the best..

Get your facts right before posting

its good to see wikipedia my friend but be practical indian bikes need some times to achieve some speeds and get there respective top ends. i bet the R15 in the race barely got its 4th gear[if perfectly shifted] what's the fun of the race when your bike is left with 2 more gears to go??

My dear friend, most drags are short distances and is more about getting the timing of your gear shifts right and not the top speed (all these from what I understand.). You need to be the quickest off the block, shift at the optimum moment, and reach the end line first. End of story. Don't need to touch max speed to win a drag race.

Well, lets not get OT. Back to the topic R-15 v RTR 180

Super +1.

Perfect example are the TVS tires, put a poll and you'll get people screaming at top of their voices that "Oh man it's a shit tire" and 90% of them never even rode a bike shod with TVS tires.

Remember the GSX thing, half of the mag world tags it a scary bike and people start thinking CBR is a pussy bike.

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If it's about "till 60kmph drag" then the RTR 160 FI and RTR 180 will eat R15 and spit it out of their exhaust till 60-70 kmph.
But after that it's R15 territory, it's a completely diffrent story all together.
R15 lacks the "grunt" the RTR has, but RTR spoils it with the vibes it has, and FI ironing the vibes out is pure bullshit, my bike vibrates more than it's carbed sibling.

For city puttring, which more than 95% of the owners of R15 do, R15 is useless.
If you live in chennai, or you have a ghat section behind your courtyard then go blow those bucks at the R15.

The main reason R15 sells in india is not the techno on offer but the overall LOOKS package it has, the croutched position on offer, and "Look i own the most hottest and one of the expensive bike in the market" thing amongst the youngsters. colg guys buy it cuz it's a chick magnet, they dont even know that it has a forged piston or 4 valves or LC or deltabox frame, they know nothing, but they have this AARE ONE FIVE !!!!!!!

Hmmm, you have a good point. My friend's RTR just vibrates like crazy dude. Its literally unbeareable to sit on after 6.5k RPM. Cannot rev it past that limit. There are sounds like 'ddrrrrrrr' that emanate from the fairing and under-seat area. Anyway, it must be just his bike that is vibrating like that? Its just around 6 months old and the vibrations started after the 2nd service. I dunno, sorry for generalizing. I apologize!

But I do remember reading in the BIKE mag a couple of months ago that they couldn' t push the bike to its limits in the track test because the vibrations removed all confidence... must have read it wrong (no sarcasm intended)

Hehehe, if the R15 was without a fairing, then it would be 15k cheaper, lighter and the power to weight ratio would have been higher. I guess it would then definitely beat some of the higher capacity indian bikes.

And yes, I would have still bought it coz my decision was biased at that time! The P220 wasn't available for sale in my city and I didnt have a good impression on the RTR180. The Karizma was too common on the streets and a little old. The ZMR was just a little pointless to me since it didn't have any engine upgrades.

I am not a poser. Always wear a helmet, no matter where I go. If I was a poser, then showing my face would have been important

And a fan of Yamaha. Inspires confidence

I didn't mean that. Sorry. You misunderstood me. What I meant was,"If money isn't a prime concern, then the R15 should be the first option, since its an all in one package''. Ofcourse, that statement was because I was a little biased against the RTR since I had ridden one with serious vibrations that had made a 45km trip seem like hell. Sorry. I view the RTR differently (positively) now


Errr, I am a college going guy. In my 3rd year now. Bought the bike 4 months ago. I knew it had forged pistons. I knew the cylinders are made of DI-AL-SIL alloy. I knew it generated 16.9ps @ 8,500rpm. I was well aware of the 4 valves, that gave it its revvy nature. I knew about the liquid cooling system. I knew its dry weight and kerb weight when I bought it. Knew that the ecu electronically limited its crank rpm to 10.5k, after which it throttles the engine and even shuts it down on continouos redlining.

When I bought it, I spent a month and half researching about its various aspects. I went to every brand showroom, looking at their prime offerings. I had enough money, but not enough for the Ninja250. I narrowed it down to the R15 and the P220 and eventually bought the R15.

Please, not all R15 owners are uneducated fools traipsing around to pick girls. Of course, I never even noticed how much attention the bike fetched till I actually rode around on it. Its an added advantage. But not the prime reason for my purchase. Please dont generalize. I have done lots of journey's on my bike with friends. Even ridden various other bikes on the journeys. But always yearned to get back on my bike because its just so perfect. Never really had ANY complaints


P.S: Who does a 0 to 60 KMPH drag? And I am waiting for the TVS ''Sample compound C'' tires to be released! I want them on my bike

i agreed that drag races are not for top ends but for proper shifts. but what if your 2 gears left? at least you should use all the gears. Rest i am not a professional drag racer and my vehicle is not professionaly modified so that i could get its full potential in just 400 mtrs. so i used to drag for atleast 2 km so that i could atleast change all my gears no matter what bike p220,karizma,or R15

Very nice !


Raamu !!!!
Bring my can of beer please.