The Official Mumbai Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[Rony]

My Apologies for not trying to be politically correct here and pouring my heart out here. I am not much of an active person on this forum (not really good at penning my thoughts ), but thought I should share my views with all my fellow riders.

Dude, I dont think you need to be apologetic for sharing your views openly here .... After all this forum belongs to all and one has every right to voice his opinion (thou not impose it) !! ... And why do we need to be diplomatic with our fellow xBhpians? .... I hope we all are mature enough to understand and accept each others views without being defensive/offensive .... If not then we dont deserve to be called as a xBhpian family ~!

[maypraja]

Hi All at Mumbai :
Just spoke to NV & this is what has been discussed & posted on pune thread.
please go through it only if you have time & donot just skim through it.
This will also be appended & added to the first post in mumbai thread too.

"Yesterday, most of the experienced members at Pune xBhp met at Hotel Roopali. The agenda was to discuss and analyze the events that happened at Lavasa on Sunday, 26th September, 2010. Safety being the only prime important aspect, the following rules and protocols were decided. Incidentally, these rules were already in place and were flouted during the last weekend.

1. The originator of the ride is the only person who is responsible for the safety of the entire group that rides with him on that day. He has to ensure discipline and be the rule enforcer. In the absence of the originator, any member (senior or not), can assume leadership on that ride provided he justifies that position by actions (read enforcement of basic rules).
2. No rider should be allowed to be a part of the group if he/she does not comply with the minimum document rule and the safety gear rule (read the first post of this thread for more info). Participants without helmet, elbow guards, knee guards and proper footwear to be excluded from the ride. If an erring participant is stubborn, the ride is to be called off. This decision has to be followed religiously.
3. No overtaking on the corners. This is most important. Particularly on the way to Lavasa and even during the practice runs on our practice patch, please ensure that you do not overtake anyone on the corners...be it your riding mate or any other vehicle. If you feel that you are faster than the guy in the front, ensure that you have a proper straight and honk/flash before overtaking. The idea here is to ensure that the person being overtaken knows your intentions and gives you a side. During practice runs, if you feel that the guy in front is holding you up, wait for the practice run in that direction to get over and then request him/her to let you go first.
4. No Lane cutting. This was discussed earlier and there is a tendancy to cut lanes. There are situations when you might be compelled to cut lanes (carrying more speed while cornering etc) but as far as possible, try to curb that habit and stay in your lane.
5. No tailgating. Many riders ride close to the rider in the front. This leads to a lot of incidents where there is a possibility of riders getting entangled if there is any panic braking from the guy in the front. As far as possible, maintain three bike lengths of distance to as to give yourself the room to stop properly and avoid any obstacle.
6. Discipline and Advise. If you are riding with the seniors, chances are that they will give you an advise on your riding if they see anything wrong. Please take that advise in a proper way. Do not bring in any ego while learning. In fact, all the seniors themselves keep on commenting and advising each other if they see anything wrong. Every ride is a learning opportunity and one should try to get the maximum from it.
7. Tank up overnight. Due to the varied preferences of fuel, please ensure that you tank up the day before your ride. Most of the times, we waste time waiting for people to fill in their fuel tanks, jumping from one fuel station to the other.
8. Any person not complying with these rules is essentially creating a bad name, not just for the group but for the entire biker community. As such, anyone found flouting these for the first time will be issued a warning. A second time offense will invite a ban from at least two rides with the group. A third time offense will invite a lifetime infraction/Ban from the group and also from xBhp.
9. As my good friend Rohan quotes "A good rider is not the one who scrapes his knee or goes around fast. A good rider is the one who knows his limits and rides fast staying in his capabilities.". This is so true. Many a times, riders behind follow the leaders into corners and straights trying to keep even distance and ride well above their comfort zones.
   The key is, stay in your comfort zone. No one is going to find faults with you or label you as a slouch. Such riders are always assets to the group and will always stay safe.

Please note that we are not interested in being villains but our community is much more than a plain biker group. It stands for safety and quality more than anything else.

The above mentioned rules are quite generic and are not limited to the groups riding to Lavasa. On any given weekend, there are many rides happening in and around Pune. The rules mentioned above are applicable to each one of those rides. The participating members may inform about erring participants either on a G2G or on the thread.

Would like it if the group agrees to these rules unitedly and focuses on achieving trouble free rides weekend after weekend. "

Over to the above points I am adding my own.This is with concern to many a new members joining in at mumbai group.
As all the time seniors can't be present in each & every ride this point concerns to that fact.
As an addition to point one every ride irrespective of newbies,oldies or whatever should be conducted in the same manner.
i.e. there will be a leader & people will ride in formation with a sweeper at the back.
The leader also holds responsibility for that particular ride.
As plans are posted here (plans on FB are not xbhp rides & are at your own risks & would request all of you to refrain from doing that )
If no senior is present one of the four (me,ketan,satyen & spidy) will give a call the previous day of the ride & confirm for the all the points mentioned above.

Again this is not to demean anyone but rather a process to create better riders & good leaders.

Any other point thought upon will be duly added

Thanks.

DK can we have the Hand Signal rule/pics/videos...it will be a easy reckoner for all the rides across various group be it Mumbai or Pune or ones as far as Mizoram...this could be added to the forums...newbies ke liye easy

[nin]

exactly !! feel free to voice your opinion but do not impose it...no one would like that...also have a point to make?...make it as long as it doesnt create a controversy !!

[spiderweb]

@DK, NV, Rachit, Satyen, Ketan & all: Superb stuff! I was expecting this since ages, but finally it had come & for the betterment, Kudos to all XBHP'ians...

I have 1 last question (as of now):

Since I ride to work (weekdays; Powai to Thane) and some places within Mumbai (Weekends). What do you guys think do I have to have a Jacket (refering to DSG; which use for my rides out of Mumbai) apart from my helmet; which I religiously use at all times.

An armour jacket would be fantastic for any sort of ride, though i personally prefer a thick denim jacket for in city commuting / riding, its safe, comfortable & its blue makes it a bliss in hot weathers, though you may find me roaming around in funky hot black jackets as well

[beruoist]

Guys need little help/info

Which route should i take to reach NH17 from Pune.Must be short and in good condition. .Yes i am going GOA.

What all options we have ..Need the info urgently.

Cheers
Biru

[Rony]

DK can we have the Hand Signal rule/pics/videos...it will be a easy reckoner for all the rides across various group be it Mumbai or Pune or ones as far as Mizoram...this could be added to the forums...newbies ke liye easy

+100 ..... Excellent suggestion mayur !! ..... We need to standardize the way of communication while riding .... will make it easier for followers to understand leaders message ... If any such protocol already exists then do share it here else start a new thread describing the gestures in detail !!

[satyenpoojary]

I have 1 last question (as of now):

Since I ride to work (weekdays; Powai to Thane) and some places within Mumbai (Weekends). What do you guys think do I have to have a Jacket (refering to DSG; which use for my rides out of Mumbai) apart from my helmet; which I religiously use at all times.


I know its for my safety and all that but wanted to get a general view by all.

All Senior Xbhpians, Kudos to you all for the fantastic job you guys have been doing.

In my view a riding jacket is an overkill for city roads, a thick enough jacket would be better. However having said that your route involves venturing into the Eastern Express highway and for highways armoured jackets are probably the best bet!
Opt for a mesh jacket, it would help you cool down when you zip on the EE.

DK can we have the Hand Signal rule/pics/videos...it will be a easy reckoner for all the rides across various group be it Mumbai or Pune or ones as far as Mizoram...this could be added to the forums...newbies ke liye easy

The MotoGP ones are slightly different from the universal hand rules.
You can check them here

Guys need little help/info

Which route should i take to reach NH17 from Pune.Must be short and in good condition. .Yes i am going GOA.

What all options we have ..Need the info urgently.

Cheers
Biru

Please figure out yourself!




- How many in for Pune? and please let me know if someone is bring a cage too :P I can do with some lift!

[RISHIS]

Guys need little help/info

Which route should i take to reach NH17 from Pune.Must be short and in good condition. .Yes i am going GOA.

What all options we have ..Need the info urgently.

Cheers
Biru

Bingo...!!! Dude I have driven my car at-least 8-9 times to Goa from Mumbai. We usually used to take the NH17 route but then the route Via Kolhapur is the best bet with straight and fast roads. I am quite sure you will not find any difficulty travelling on this route.When you reach Kolhapur a Little ahead from there, When you cross the Maharashtra-Karnataka Border a Little ahead is a Bypass from which you can turn towards Sawantwadi . After a Ghat or so you will be in Goa in an hour or so. This route is longer but faser and less time consuming than the normal route. You would seriously enjoy this route .
Let me know if you want some more details on this. Cheers...

[darkknight]

@biru: the road that joins up at pen joins nh 17 closest from panvel is one option

other is the one which directly joins to mangaon which is a better option

The nh 17 is n pretty bad condition post rains

why you going to goa..ghumne bolega toh you are dead!!!!

[beruoist]

In my view a riding jacket is an overkill for city roads, a thick enough jacket would be better. However having said that your route involves venturing into the Eastern Express highway and for highways armoured jackets are probably the best bet!
Opt for a mesh jacket, it would help you cool down when you zip on the EE.



The MotoGP ones are slightly different from the universal hand rules.
You can check them here




Please figure out yourself!




- How many in for Pune? and please let me know if someone is bring a cage too :P I can do with some lift!

I Keel YOu

Bingo...!!! Dude I have driven my car at-least 8-9 times to Goa from Mumbai. We usually used to take the NH17 route but then the route Via Kolhapur is the best bet with straight and fast roads. I am quite sure you will not find any difficulty travelling on this route.When you reach Kolhapur a Little ahead from there, When you cross the Maharashtra-Karnataka Border a Little ahead is a Bypass from which you can turn towards Sawantwadi . After a Ghat or so you will be in Goa in an hour or so. This route is longer but faser and less time consuming than the normal route. You would seriously enjoy this route .
Let me know if you want some more details on this. Cheers...

Thanks for the route info man

@biru: the road that joins up at pen joins nh 17 closest from panvel is one option

other is the one which directly joins to mangaon which is a better option

The nh 17 is n pretty bad condition post rains

why you going to goa..ghumne bolega toh you are dead!!!!

Danga machaane ..Actually sab college ke friends ikathhe ho rahe he..

Wahi soch rha hu,nipani wala route pakadu.

Cheers
Biru

[nin]

Bingo...!!! Dude I have driven my car at-least 8-9 times to Goa from Mumbai. We usually used to take the NH17 route but then the route Via Kolhapur is the best bet with straight and fast roads. I am quite sure you will not find any difficulty travelling on this route.When you reach Kolhapur a Little ahead from there, When you cross the Maharashtra-Karnataka Border a Little ahead is a Bypass from which you can turn towards Sawantwadi . After a Ghat or so you will be in Goa in an hour or so. This route is longer but faser and less time consuming than the normal route. You would seriously enjoy this route .
Let me know if you want some more details on this. Cheers...

the route via kolhapur is the best...totally agreed but the other one is even more beautiful...now it depends whether you have to reach a place early or go slowly and enjoy the scenic beauty...

[beruoist]

the route via kolhapur is the best...totally agreed but the other one is even more beautiful...now it depends whether you have to reach a place early or go slowly and enjoy the scenic beauty...

..I just want to reach GOA and do the enjoyment part there

[nin]

..I just want to reach GOA and do the enjoyment part there

take the kolhapur route then...but be very careful of the cagers doing excess of 120's there and also other stupid bikers,cagers,villagers coming in your way on the highway...can be very dangerous at high speeds !! have a good and safe ride...enjoy !!

[satyenpoojary]

Aankh band kar, aur NH4 se jaa... phir aane ke time NH17 se aaja... as usual :P whereas we recommend the other way around to everyone else.

Abey isko raaste mat batao
1) Koi fayda nahi... Goa ke liye niklega, phir bolega I am in Cochin!
2) Woh raaste main PHD kar raha hain
3) Itne reason bas nahi hue kya?

[beruoist]

Aankh band kar, aur NH4 se jaa... phir aane ke time NH17 se aaja... as usual :P whereas we recommend the other way around to everyone else.

Abey isko raaste mat batao
1) Koi fayda nahi... Goa ke liye niklega, phir bolega I am in Cochin!
2) Woh raaste main PHD kar raha hain
3) Itne reason bas nahi hue kya?

Are Taau.. me aaj kal Pune me hu Mumbai me nahi
So NH17 kaa connecting ways kaa PHD is in process

Cheers
Biru