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any thing over 95000/- rs will definitely hurt its sales.....as pricing near to 1 lac will make people more inclined towards r15 and upcoming cbr15o.....these two bikes will attract poser and fairing hungry janta....but according me p200 above cbr150 and r15 as far as practicality is concerned....
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My bad. Here in Pune, the KTM Store is different(only sell bikes) and they directed my friend(have bought a KTM200) to a different place (KTM Service) for servicing, where I saw other Pulsars also being parked for servicing. So looks like, they have different servicing bay/area, at least in Pune.Originally posted by rx100.7050 View PostBuddy, N250 & Duke 200 will get serviced only & only at PBK service station. Yes, presently the P220, 200 & Avenger shares the same because they are/were being sold through PBK. Pulsars & Avenger will be phased out of PBK. They will then have to shift to regular dealer service.
Yes, N250 & KTM 200 gets premium service at PBK as they have dedicated Sr engineer from Bajaj & Sr mechanic from dealer catering to them.
Just like Endurance & other makes suspension for bike makers. Brembo & other makes brakes. Minda & other make switch gears, etc. Doesn't mean company using those parts pay any "royalty" to them. They are the component suppliers and make stuff as per the requirements/specs of the manufactures.Originally posted by antz.bin View Post@Nav75 my bad on the 220 FI system. Whenever I read about it, all I could see was that the FI system was made by Delphi. Thats the reason I thought they might have outsourced the tech and so might be paying royalty for it. That also explained the higher difference than the other Carb / Fi twins. So it seems their secret is something else.
The reason for low cost, also could be that with carb in place, Bajaj would have projected a higher sales number and hence could use more volumes concept to make more profit overall? But then this is just a thought, only way to get the correct answer is to catch hold of some Bajaj official and ask.
Before replacing the injectors, you will get them cleaned at service centers.Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post@nav, rx100, Thanks guys for enlightening us with many technical aspects including ur experiences with Fi. But am still thinking after how many kms the injector needs to be replaced which would incur some investments.
Exact numbers, someone who has gone it done will be able to tell. A friend of mine replaced the injectors in his car at over a lakh km's.
I'll say, unless Bajaj releases any official statement about the price, its all rumors. Even dealers who are taking the bookings, they might not be sure of the price, what they are doing is just taking advantage of people who are willing to hand them cash on the name of booking. This cash, the dealer can use until the bike's price is officially announced and booking officially starts.Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post@redlag, ur the guy who spread the 87k ludhiyana info. Was it a rumour or reality?
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Well,pulsar200ns have both looks and some decent FE which a common man who has money to spend looks for.Common people believe that FE is proportional to displacement which is partially true.So P200NS will have more buyers than P220f/s for sure.
I'm curious to know about the reason, bajaj not yet declaring the launch date/price?
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so the catchy looks and catchy price tag will eventually result in decent monthly sales figure for p200ns.now the catchy bikes will eventually loose exclusivity,people will buy it obviously as there is increasing average disposable money for middle class indian,even the emi will work out to be cheap,so we start seeing too many p200 around and thus it becomes the mango people's bike.Originally posted by Enthusiastic View PostI agree sayank u see them because these bikes are catchy.
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I agree sayank u see them because these bikes are catchy. Obviously we wont see (& care to notice) the millions of splendors, discovers, passions, shines etc. surrounding us. If R15 does 4K per month splendor does 1lac+. I agree these bikes are also becoming quite common nowdays and I kind of made it easy to understand for him. Thats it.Originally posted by sayank10 View Post@enthu your definition of common man=who buys <150 cc is not justified,i see many cbr,220,very few ninja,zmr ,r15[quite a lot] owners around me who neither are financially that strong nor enthusiastic[not you].
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@enthu your definition of common man=who buys <150 cc is not justified,i see many cbr,220,very few ninja,zmr ,r15[quite a lot] owners around me who neither are financially that strong nor enthusiastic[not you].
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So finally you accepted that you were spreading rumours. I was sure the first time I read your comment and believe me thats not a good practice. Its not good to spread -ve rumours. First u said that P200NS comes at 87K OTR. If some innocent people out here (read: barring Enthusiastic & many others) believed and had so much reason to cheer up would be dishartened abit on knowing that the actual price is actually around 1Lac OTR (just assumption)Originally posted by redlag View PostWell I actually believed that at that moment. My brother told me that his friend booked one at that price but later on when I went to the showroom, they said that they wrn't doing any such booking and they didn't have the bike with them so I guess it was just a confusion :P
The sales guy said it should be around rs.1,03,000. that were even prep'in EMI at that price but even he wasn't that sure about the price. I think he was just trying to push me to get a duke. :P
Xbhp is a quite famous one and P200NS is a very highly speculated bike not only in India but in many countries (like South East Asian, South American etc.) You won't believe me but I have read your this comments in many international forums and there have been new threads spawned owing to ur comment. Complete Bull Shit.
The Pulsar 200NS though priced quite competitively (assuming Bajaj's pricing) is miles ahead of the old P200 (which was also good at its price) considering the huge advancements in everything (I mean it "Everything"). Be it international street-sport looks, Liquid cooling, twin-spar/perimeter, performance anything.Originally posted by redlag View PostBut anyhow, do you guys really think that the regular Indian who doesn't visit forums or is not aware of how drastic the changes are under the hood will be willing to pay that much price premium? I mean if I am a common man and I see the new pulsar 200 being 30k more than the previous one, I probably wouldn't buy it unless it has faring or any other killer feature. It's still 200 cc. That's all what a common man will think.
To a common man, 1lac to too much to ask for a "pulsar 200". Maybe 90k max but not more than that.
So the P200NS is definitely not a common man's bike. In India a common mans bike is wats <=150cc (probably 100cc) and priced low and not much performance fig and good mileage. Yes it will quench the performance thirst of many performance thirsty people in our country giving good FE as an additional bonus. And 200cc is not a small engine by any Indian biking stds. And the technologies implied justify its price even if it was little above 1Lac for anyone... also considering competition's prices and the rising costs.
Easy to guess... Read it 10times...Originally posted by redlag View PostLol. May I know why?
or even then u dnt get it then ask @Myth why he gave me +1 for that...
Happy riding
PS: Don't miss this one @redlag... there are many like this in other countries too. This one is from Indonesian P200NS fan site... the Header says "P200Ns price fell to 15millions" http://translate.google.co.in/transl...26prmd%3DimvnsLast edited by Enthusiastic; 03-10-2012, 12:59 AM.
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your concern is justified.but people these days atleast do some basic research before buying,but those basic research won't help understanding what's under the hood.Originally posted by redlag View PostBut anyhow, do you guys really think that the regular Indian who doesn't visit forums or is not aware of how drastic the changes are under the hood will be willing to pay that much price premium? I mean if I am a common man and I see the new pulsar 200 being 30k more than the previous one, I probably wouldn't buy it unless it has faring or any other killer feature. It's still 200 cc. That's all what a common man will think.
To a common man, 1lac to too much to ask for a "pulsar 200". Maybe 90k max but not more than that.
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Well I actually believed that at that moment. My brother told me that his friend booked one at that price but later on when I went to the showroom, they said that they wrn't doing any such booking and they didn't have the bike with them so I guess it was just a confusion :POriginally posted by Enthusiastic View PostNice Thinking myth.
@redlag, ur the guy who spread the 87k ludhiyana info. Was it a rumour or reality?
87k was the ex-showroom price or u read something wrong?
U booked the P200NS and if yes for how much?
The sales guy said it should be around rs.1,03,000. that were even prep'in EMI at that price but even he wasn't that sure about the price. I think he was just trying to push me to get a duke. :P
But anyhow, do you guys really think that the regular Indian who doesn't visit forums or is not aware of how drastic the changes are under the hood will be willing to pay that much price premium? I mean if I am a common man and I see the new pulsar 200 being 30k more than the previous one, I probably wouldn't buy it unless it has faring or any other killer feature. It's still 200 cc. That's all what a common man will think.
To a common man, 1lac to too much to ask for a "pulsar 200". Maybe 90k max but not more than that.
Lol. May I know why?Top contender for worst comments award.Last edited by redlag; 03-10-2012, 12:28 AM.
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Union Budget is expected (well...almost sure) to be on 16th March.Originally posted by sayank10 View Postwhen is the union budget?
myth it's ot not otr.
I was thinking of the on road price of the P200...and in that frame of mind typed it...now edited.
@Enthusiastic...when thinking about this machine, many things come to the mind to speculate its details. This being one of them.Last edited by myth2104; 03-10-2012, 12:19 AM.
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Nice Thinking myth.Originally posted by myth2104 View PostI also think that BAL is mum on the P200NS pricing because of the Budget 2012.
Its expected to hike certain taxes, excise duties, etc. So keeping that in mind BAL would be waiting for the declaration to fix its prices.
OTR: And as it is the Indian Govt is really good at relaxing taxes and prices
@nav, rx100, Thanks guys for enlightening us with many technical aspects including ur experiences with Fi. But am still thinking after how many kms the injector needs to be replaced which would incur some investments.
@redlag, ur the guy who spread the 87k ludhiyana info. Was it a rumour or reality?
87k was the ex-showroom price or u read something wrong?
U booked the P200NS and if yes for how much?
Im 100% sure ur spreading rumours out here. Even the dealers don't know the pricing and ur trying to shine out here by quoting too low.
Top contender for worst comments award.Originally posted by redlag View PostPersonally I don't think the new pulsar 200NS would be that much costly because the general public don't know (or don't care about) the drastic changes which occur under the hood. So pricing it too high might not me right decision. 5k-10k costlier than the previous pulsar at max I would say.
P.s. How much did the previous pulsar 200 cost anyway? (Sorry about the ignorance
)Last edited by Enthusiastic; 03-10-2012, 12:17 AM.
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74-77k varying state-wise.Originally posted by redlag View PostP.s. How much did the previous pulsar 200 cost anyway? (Sorry about the ignorance
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when is the union budget?Originally posted by myth2104 View PostI also think that BAL is mum on the P200NS pricing because of the Budget 2012.
Its expected to hike certain taxes, excise duties, etc. So keeping that in mind BAL would be waiting for the declaration to fix its prices.
OTR: And as it is the Indian Govt is really good at relaxing taxes and prices
myth it's ot not otr.
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P200NS Pricing
I also think that BAL is mum on the P200NS pricing because of the Budget 2012.
Its expected to hike certain taxes, excise duties, etc. So keeping that in mind BAL would be waiting for the declaration to fix its prices.
OT: And as it is the Indian Govt is really good at relaxing taxes and prices
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Personally I don't think the new pulsar 200NS would be that much costly because the general public don't know (or don't care about) the drastic changes which occur under the hood. So pricing it too high might not me right decision. 5k-10k costlier than the previous pulsar at max I would say.
P.s. How much did the previous pulsar 200 cost anyway? (Sorry about the ignorance
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