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  • About Udhay's R15
    Ive ridden it prior to the installation of the FFE.Was a short run but there was a noticeable improvement and a grunt below 5K RPM but a slight twist of the throttle in bumper to bumper traffic gave a choking feel!?
    @Joel,why is that?

    anyway according to Udhay,the acceleration and mileage has improved a lot.Hopefully this week ill be in bangy and test his FFE too...and will try and post the timings

    Would be great if anyone could review a Joeled FZ too

    @KwokFist
    It would be nice if you could compare the timing against a stock set up too.Would make your great review even better!
    Last edited by RanjithMN; 12-18-2010, 01:50 AM.
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    • @Ranjith - uday' R15 has a rich fuel setting. ride it now.
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      • Originally posted by Joel View Post
        7 years ago, folks on xbhp believed what they saw on the speedo was correct and swore by it. Then started the filter trend, where anybody assumed some 20% bump in power with a stupid cone filter. Then came the speedgun and sigma trend that we started in 2005 using top-speed runs and that became the norm of true speeds and everybody realised what true speeds were. Somewhere later, came the timing trend, which I started back in 2008 with v-box testing. Till then we would hear of all weird acceleration figures without any back-up. Now, I sure know the timing and have tested all these products very well before making it public. In any case, if it didnt beat the efforts of the factory provided engine kids, I would dare not make these public. Simply put, with a well-run-in bigbore alone, you can outclass your daytona kitted R15. Hope thats clear enough.
        While the daytona kit costs 38k, this one is a mere tiny fraction of its cost.
        +1 Well said Joel! Daytona doesn't even compare!

        Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
        @KwokFist
        It would be nice if you could compare the timing against a stock set up too.Would make your great review even better!
        Like I mentioned in Joel's thread. I don't have any equipment for testing/timing the bikes accurately. If i did, i wouldn't be waiting to post them here. There's no point in testing manually. It's quicker than stock in every gear. You'd rather ride it to believe it. Any timing sheet wont instill the confidence in you about the setup that a ride on it will in a moment. This i can personally guarantee!

        For the record: My fueling wasn't touched and on stock ecu settings it works excellent.
        Last edited by KwokFist; 12-18-2010, 02:55 AM.
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        • Originally posted by Joel View Post
          @Ranjith - uday' R15 has a rich fuel setting. ride it now.
          Hmm...yep,will do.I hope he gets the ECU by then too!
          Originally posted by KwokFist View Post
          +1 Well said Joel! Daytona doesn't even compare!



          Like I mentioned in Joel's thread. I don't have any equipment for testing/timing the bikes accurately. If i did, i wouldn't be waiting to post them here. There's no point in testing manually. It's quicker than stock in every gear. You'd rather ride it to believe it. Any timing sheet wont instill the confidence in you about the setup that a ride on it will in a moment. This i can personally guarantee!
          true!
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          • a little morning rant :P

            Normally I wouldn't take great pains to go through the trouble of documenting everything and upload it here due to all the BS that comes along with it. But in this case I truly believe that people who wait with bated breath for a manufacturer to launch a product with such tiny/no increments in performance from their supposedly hidden closet of goodies need not wait any longer. We have everything readily available at our disposal and it's upto us to make use of it. The kind of performance upgrades we have now for the R15 is only similar to what is available abroad for the Litre class bikes. Snap on power gains. True to the word and yet we think a 1000 times.

            We are 'willing' to spend lakhs on motorcycles which cost thousands more to maintain and thousands more to get those little upgrades on them. Ever considered that for a price of a slip-on exhaust for a sbk you can easily get the Big Bore Kit + Exhaust + Filter + Ecu + lot more goodies. Ofcourse if you had an SBK you would have more money to buy those anyway. But how many can actually go out and buy a superbike at their whim and fancy?

            The big bore kit costs a fraction of the cost of the bike and actually makes a difference and yet we hesitate. From someone who has put in decent amount of miles on his R15, The big bore combined with the reworked head has complimented the setup so well that now I detest Yamaha for not having given in stock form what I've received from the Big Bore Kit.

            The pleasure of riding this bike cannot be put into mere words. 26000kms+ on the stock bore (with the speedo sensor failure) and 1.1K+ on the big bore and the latter has made me happier than the stock ever did during the whole 20-21 months I've used it! I frankly think that gives me the right to say that the big bore is miles ahead of the stock setup. There's no magic here. The gains are real and measurable. The more I ride it, the more I'm falling in love with the bike all over again.

            Yamaha infact should give an option henceforth.

            A. Their 150cc Engine
            B. Joel's 165cc setup

            Let the people decide for themselves.
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            2009 Ford Fiesta 1.6S

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            • Originally posted by Joel View Post
              7 years ago, folks on xbhp believed what they saw on the speedo was correct and swore by it. Then started the filter trend, where anybody assumed some 20% bump in power with a stupid cone filter. Then came the speedgun and sigma trend that we started in 2005 using top-speed runs and that became the norm of true speeds and everybody realised what true speeds were. Somewhere later, came the timing trend, which I started back in 2008 with v-box testing. Till then we would hear of all weird acceleration figures without any back-up. Now, I sure know the timing and have tested all these products very well before making it public. In any case, if it didnt beat the efforts of the factory provided engine kids, I would dare not make these public. Simply put, with a well-run-in bigbore alone, you can outclass your daytona kitted R15. Hope thats clear enough.
              While the daytona kit costs 38k, this one is a mere tiny fraction of its cost.
              Maybe I am misinterpretting your post but I do not mean to offend your work in any way. I myself love to change parts in my bike and love to improve it.. I am myself not worthy of being called a modifier but yes I do love comparing my work with people who know "what a bike is about". hence i asked for the timings. eventhough timings are all numbers and they will not say anything as to how exciting teh bike is, but they do speek in absolute terms and can be compared.

              I have this small incident that made me realise how important it is to tune your bike rather than fit random performance parts.

              i and my friend habe a hh hunk( one of the least modified bikes ). while i got only a k&n and a flatslide carb, the other bugger got a k&N, free flow exhaust, imported cdi performance plugs and what not. if i compare my bike with a stock hunk, my bike is so fast to the 0-60 that i often shift after overrevving. uptill 85, my bike "1" and my friends bike run neck to neck. with the stock bike about 15 meters behind. but then the stock bike takes over as we reach 100 and then by bike gives up. then my friend's bike gives up at about 115 (on a gps device) and finallythe stock bike continues going ahead..

              the reason why i put this here is that with this, i can interpret that my bike with a k&n and a flat slide improves the acceleration rather than the top speed. my friend with all other performance parts, is able to go faster than me but not as good as a stock. and ironically, the stock runs better in top speed stakes. i can hence conclude that its not solely the performance parts that make a bike fast or better. its their synchronisation.. and the only way to check these is the timings.. hence my comment.
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              • Originally posted by KwokFist View Post
                Normally I wouldn't take great pains to go through the trouble of documenting everything and upload it here due to all the BS that comes along with it. But in this case I truly believe that people who wait with bated breath for a manufacturer to launch a product with such tiny/no increments in performance from their supposedly hidden closet of goodies need not wait any longer. We have everything readily available at our disposal and it's upto us to make use of it. The kind of performance upgrades we have now for the R15 is only similar to what is available abroad for the Litre class bikes. Snap on power gains. True to the word and yet we think a 1000 times.

                We are 'willing' to spend lakhs on motorcycles which cost thousands more to maintain and thousands more to get those little upgrades on them. Ever considered that for a price of a slip-on exhaust for a sbk you can easily get the Big Bore Kit + Exhaust + Filter + Ecu + lot more goodies. Ofcourse if you had an SBK you would have more money to buy those anyway. But how many can actually go out and buy a superbike at their whim and fancy?

                The big bore kit costs a fraction of the cost of the bike and actually makes a difference and yet we hesitate. From someone who has put in decent amount of miles on his R15, The big bore combined with the reworked head has complimented the setup so well that now I detest Yamaha for not having given in stock form what I've received from the Big Bore Kit.

                The pleasure of riding this bike cannot be put into mere words. 26000kms+ on the stock bore (with the speedo sensor failure) and 1.1K+ on the big bore and the latter has made me happier than the stock ever did during the whole 20-21 months I've used it! I frankly think that gives me the right to say that the big bore is miles ahead of the stock setup. There's no magic here. The gains are real and measurable. The more I ride it, the more I'm falling in love with the bike all over again.

                Yamaha infact should give an option henceforth.

                A. Their 150cc Engine
                B. Joel's 165cc setup

                Let the people decide for themselves.

                Just a well wisher... nice work joel sir...
                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                • welcome to the joel mod group
                  my bike has done 11700kms after joels mods and running without any issues.

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                  • Originally posted by bikemanic View Post
                    welcome to the joel mod group
                    my bike has done 11700kms after joels mods and running without any issues.
                    Thank you!

                    I've been through your posts earlier. Thank you for updating me about your setup. It would be nice to have a brief review of your bike after running it for 11700kms+ after the mods. Feel free to add it on this thread! As of now my bike has clocked only 1200kms with the mods.
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                    • @joel
                      can u please tell the whole setup cost
                      im very much interested in the whole kit
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                      • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                        @joel
                        can u please tell the whole setup cost
                        im very much interested in the whole kit
                        I suggest you send him a PM regarding pricing and/or email him at [email protected] for a quicker response.
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                        2009 Ford Fiesta 1.6S

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                        • a question for joel sir...

                          will your innovations still be available to us xbhp kids even after u go for motogp with ur team,,,???
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                          • ^yes indeed mate . All the innovations will last as long as I survive. I will have temporary arrangements to distribute and I will be online to assist.
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                            • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                              ^yes indeed mate . All the innovations will last as long as I survive. I will have temporary arrangements to distribute and I will be online to assist.
                              Phew, a sign of relief...

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                              • Congratulations on the mod KwokFist.. I still remember the STORM is here write up... So what do u plan to call her now Thunderstorm...??

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