ill call the police (XPolice)

Such a boring thread. Why to discuss so much on a bike which is already dying. jsut close this thread or else ill call the police (XPolice)

Karizma is a splendor on 223cc motor.

Guys and specially "above_all", Karizma is not a bad bike and no one is saying that. But the appeal is lost and so it is... Ok, ZMR might keep some posers and hardcore tourers happy, but that's about it. Even tourers think straight to CBR 250 nowadays, instead of ZMR. Budget being a secondary factor (if).

In other words, CBR 250R is all a Karizma update should've been, except for the pricing though (but they could've managed it by using Carb/ other methods)...

I have ridden Karizma enough to talk about it. My complaints with it are:

1. Unequal gear ratios (3 close, 2 far)... So, whenever you're short shifting, first 3 ratios go fine, but the 4th gear comes as a sudden lethargic attack. Gear Ratios should be equally spaced for an enjoyable city/ mostly any ride.

2. Riding position.. I know its a tourer, but footpegs could definitely have gone back. And pillion footrests are too close too...

3. Power: Midrange is good, but who needs its tremendous low end? Kind of constantly reminds us that its made from a Off Roader only, after all. Take out the low end and get some top end in, leaving the mid as untouched as possible.

Forget the looks here... they're acceptable enough.

Tell Hero to update it with a 6 speed equal ratioed gearbox, slightly sportier position and about 19 bhp power should be enough. Do it by getting 4 valve head, or by changing cams I don't mind.

Although again, a refined Pulsar with 23~ ps power in lesser money? The competition has left Karizma far behind to be updated...

The answer to that is..... NOTHING. For those who are expecting for more, can go for the ZMR, cause it has everything the ZMA has'nt, technically.
The ZMA's are made for down to earth people who care less about flashy tech and give more emphasis to raw functionality. Its actually a pity everyone who've posted against the ZMA has'nt realized yet. Would you prefer to get stranded in the middle of no where just because your tilt sensor malfunctioned and is refusing the bike to start up. Or would you prefer waiting on the road for a goods rickshaw to come and help carry your bike to the nearest SVC just cause your FI unit failed. Or......LOL the simplest. Would you prefer to get stranded in traffic cause your kickstand sensor failed and is refusing the bike to start??? You see here, the more the tech used, the more complicated things get. Heck, as a matter of fact the ZMA/ZMR doesnt even have a Kill Switch!!! To put it in simple terms the ZMA was a bike designed for India. No bike manufacturer has understood the needs and wants of the Indian consumer, like Hero has. Now people may argue about the tech other manufacturers have given us, just rethink the above scenereos.... LOL wait..... Illuminated switches... Really???? Do we need them???

I believe we've already contributed something here.... And that something was notifying everyone that we love the ZMA as it is and we are'nt expecting anything more from it.

The hard fact here is that, there's no point in going on and on cause those who mind don't own a ZMA, and those who matter knows the ZMA's ABOVE ALL .

A Little bit of Sarcasm.
I wish this thread to continue on i.e in a healthy way.... LOL Am I kidding myself ... Things will get a little heated, and thats for sure. At the least its amusing to hear a few people from the yesteryears trying to act like they're still in the game, by acting all techy and supporting the modern world's creations rather than realizing the potential of what we've already been gifted with.



Let me explain dear, with myself as an example.
I bought a BB for 10K and it has the basic'est of features that even a phone which costs a mere 2.5K can beat the BB feature wise.
So do I feel bad???


HELL NO!!! Cause with the BB I can keep in constant touch with my DAD who'se working abroad, I see him only once a year and that too for a couple of days only, so with the BB I can contact him whenever I want wherever I want. We can catch up on things we've left out on, we share pics music, and by that we get closer. The joy it gives me is priceless. And all that for just a mere 10K... Now.. Does the 10K seem like a huge amount I've wasted on something that has less features in comparison to another product that costs only 1/4th of the above???? The answer once again is NO!!!.

The people who buy the ZMA, know what its made for and use it for the same, thats why people still opt for the ZMA which has less features and is more expensive than another bike which has much more features and is less expensive. Those who dont feel the same are free to opt for the bikes of their choice. Guess thats proof enough to show that SUBSTANCE* does matter.

*QUALITY ain't the right word for it.

Such a boring thread. Why to discuss so much on a bike which is already dying. jsut close this thread or else ill call the police (XPolice)

You've said the answer yourself. The KeyWords are "SPEEDO INDICATED"
and "CRITICISE"



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beg pardon but i couldn't get you.
220's speedo is quite accurate ,so what's your point?

And pulsar is Platina on a 220cc motor..

Or else I will start a why Bajaj sucks thread.

Once again you've helped prove my point.

Now, thats exactly the feeling a biking enthusiast get's when people who know the least about bikes comment that the ZMA's a 223cc Splendor.
The Splendor just like the CRF derived ZMA has its individual appeal and should'nt be criticized by any means.

i don't make such kinda remark.
i am not even down playing zma.

In what way is my comment worse than the karizma is 223 cc splendor comment?