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  • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
    ....... I just fear to see the day TVS goes the Bajaj way launching RTR200 and RTR220 with only 1ps or so difference between the bikes. I believe the RTR series of bikes should be more differentiable from each other - this is where Bajaj went wrong with the Pulsar series and is the reason why the Pulsar brand got diluted. ..........
    Yup Tvs should definetly learn a lesson from Bajaj .theres hardly any visual or major component diff between Rtr fi and Rtr180 ,atleast p200 has different tank scoops and diff exhaust to diffrntiate it from p150 ,180 .

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    • good signature puneet
      from where did you get it?
      LMAO
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      • hmm... liked the ad.Looking for an addition to my unicorn.Waiting for the launch.
        @snehil-from the rtr 180 ad
        Socha Toh Locha.

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        • The background voice in the ad ... "why do I race..." is so lovely... adds a great character to the ad... I'd pick this one as better than the R15's Ad... the voice makes it win.

          So, the RTR letters on the scoops stay... looks cheap (XCD-ish). I just pray for a more refined engine on the RTR 180 (heck, I never wanted the RTR 180.. should have been a 200 directly). Everything else, I believe TVS took care of it.

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          • Right Time

            Originally posted by manan_in_2000 View Post
            Well for everything there is a right time and so is for this, i'll surely share the same once I feel the right time has come.
            Manan : Right time has come.... what your saying..???

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            • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
              @snehil-from the rtr 180 ad
              i know re.i was just pulling is leg
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              • Originally posted by bprags View Post
                Well, since the stroke of the RTR180 is same as the Apache 150, it is not a short stroke engine. So I dont think it is gonna revv as crazily as the RTR160.
                whtz ur source ? how did u know tht?
                guys is this true , bike wont revv like the 160???

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                • The 180's stroke is longer than the 160. IIRC, Joel said that the bore is the same. Hence if the displacement has been upped, the stroke length has increased.
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                  • First off all,RTR180 could have got itself a performance exhaust............it wud hav changed the way it looks and would also have given perfo boost and awesome sound.
                    Second white RTR looks superb but what other colours would be available???
                    Third RTR180 retains the oversquare property of the engine.........it might be not have a short stroke of rtr160 but it surely would be a short stroke 180.

                    Last of all 17.3 PS is great from a 180cc,my p180 gives 16.7 PS.RTR180 wud handle superbly that my p180 cannot.RTR180 is a generation ahead of p180.Performance is at par with the premium bikes in India.Looks are dated,subtle changes but radical is expected in the final product.
                    Last edited by MACH50; 04-19-2009, 01:14 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by Grafix View Post
                      whtz ur source ? how did u know tht?
                      guys is this true , bike wont revv like the 160???

                      An RTR which does not rev crazily !? Impossible !

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                      • Originally posted by mzone View Post
                        An RTR which does not rev crazily !? Impossible !
                        +1
                        RTR= (race)Ravv Throttle Responce

                        I liked the matt white color,after RX-z i have seen white on a non-cop bike
                        but really disappointed with the same frame,
                        would be great if they provided a semi-fairing like ZMA or P-220,
                        or a wild idea.........made it naked like FZ

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                        • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                          Third RTR180 retains the oversquare property of the engine.........it might be not have a short stroke of rtr160 but it surely would be a short stroke 180.
                          I don't know the bore x stroke measures of this cylinder, so can't comment if it's a long stroke or short stroke. But what you need to know is, the ratio of declaring an engine's short strokedness/long strokedness is same throughout. It never changes with CC, the ratio standards are same.. be it a 160cc or 180cc.

                          Last of all 17.3 PS is great from a 180cc,my p180 gives 16.5 PS.RTR180 wud handle superbly that my p180 cannot.RTR180 is a generation ahead of p180 and this 180cc bike reserves the potential to humiliate p200,p220 and R15 when it comes to performance.Looks are dated,subtle changes but radical is expected in the final product.
                          A 180cc mill that makes 17.3ps humiliating a 150cc mill that makes 17ps??
                          Wow!
                          Sunny.

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                          • Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post
                            The 180's stroke is longer than the 160. IIRC, Joel said that the bore is the same. Hence if the displacement has been upped, the stroke length has increased.
                            Exactly the bore is the same, just the stroke has been increased and according to Joel the stroke is the same as the old Apache 150.

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                            • Originally posted by digislayer View Post

                              A 180cc mill that makes 17.3ps humiliating a 150cc mill that makes 17ps....
                              ....and costs a bomb
                              Wow!

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                              • Originally posted by digislayer View Post
                                I don't know the bore x stroke measures of this cylinder, so can't comment if it's a long stroke or short stroke. But what you need to know is, the ratio of declaring an engine's short strokedness/long strokedness is same throughout. It never changes with CC, the ratio standards are same.. be it a 160cc or 180cc.



                                A 180cc mill that makes 17.3ps humiliating a 150cc mill that makes 17ps??
                                Wow!
                                Well if the RTR 180 manages to beat the R15, dont you think it is great since the RTR180 will definitely cost around 35K less than the 17PS 150 cc machine.

                                PS :- If you see the ad carefully, the RTR180 overtakes a R15 on the curve. Lets wait for the actual rider reports not the souped up magazine reports.

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