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Converted my Pulsar 150 Classic to ALL DC

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  • timi
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    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    Just In Case of Pulsar UG3 variants of 150, 180 and 200.

    The BCU in these bike do not allow the bike to be on DC and make use of self starter simultaneously. Only way out is put a switch or a relay.



    Quite frankly, i done the mod on Pulsar150 classic...and it is great success...now running on 55/60W halogen. The problem pending is i don't quite easily get details on the same mod to pulsar 150 UGIII... Rahul..could you make it more clear?

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  • drvmtm
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    check ur pm noob geek.

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  • abhijeet080808
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    APE RR unit will work fine.

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  • TheNoobGeek
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    sreeni / doc, sorry to disturb you guys. But was stuck in between. Anyway, here's the update.

    Found an auto electrician who actually understood what I wanted him to do. He'll be winding it with 18AWG wire in a continuous-alternating way. I'll ask him to do it more than 12 feet per pole, but am not sure if stator can accommodate that much wire. Is there a way to determine the length of wire to be used? I know I'm asking too much.

    I asked him about APE RR and he said you can't fix it in a bull since bulls have magnets on the internal side of the stator core. I saw that in case of bull, the coil is wound on the internal side of the core, whereas it is on the outer side in case of other bikes. But how does it mean whether APE RR will be compatible or not. Though it won't matter as long as stock RR is able to do the job.

    Doc, you say battery is akin to a water tank. I that case I assume a bigger battery will only take more time to get charged/discharged. The charging will be at same rate though.

    I'll need help in plonking an HID once DC conversion is complete.
    Can anyone suggest a 14ah battery as well. unable to find any.

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  • TheNoobGeek
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    Thanks for the explanation nano, talked to "Jaf" in pudupet, he said that he can do the conversion (30 min job as per him) and it'll be only reconnecting the coil wires, no rewinding needed. Not sure if this'll work though. How do I verify that its generating enough current? (which contacts to check with multimeter)
    edit:
    I'll be replacing the battery with 9ah 12V sometime later. Is it a plug n play job or do need to mess around with electricals :P
    Last edited by TheNoobGeek; 04-01-2011, 02:26 PM. Reason: added info

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  • NANOtechnology
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    Thicker wire = more current
    Thinner wire = lesser current

    but the thing is, thinner wire can be wound more number of times on the same pole.
    so it turns out to give more voltage.

    if you use a 35 guage wire (very thin), and wind it across your bullet's stator, the bike can produce 230v with ease, but the amps will be very low.

    similarly, if you use a thicker wire, the voltage would remain around 12 and it can give you 10 amps.

    use 18 guage wire, it will do the job of running 2 hids with ease.

    BTW, your battery is not a 5 volt battery, its 12v only.
    its rated 5 amperes, not voltage.

    and if you wish to run 2 hids, you'll have to change your battery to a 9 amp one.

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  • TheNoobGeek
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    Thanks for replying guys

    How does wire gauge determine current? As in Thicker wire = More current at low RPMs. unable to find similar stuff off the internet. (wrong keywords perhaps)

    Also, after connecting RR o/p to battery. Should both wires of all connections (H/L , horn etc) be connected to both wires of battery?
    BTW, mine is a TAFE SP5LB battery perhaps a 5V. will it suffice?

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
    A typical royal enfield's stator looks like this..




    it seems that you have a CDI version of machismo which is AC/DC
    it would be 12v.

    the basics wil remain the same, you'll have to get the coil rewinded with a single wire, regarding the guage i think you can use 18 guage easily as there's a LOT of space in your coil, it would never give lesser output at lower revs. (i assume even stock windings are 18 guage)

    if you plan to swap the components to classic 500, you'll have to change your electricals too, you will have to run the bike through TCI ignition.

    for now, i think it will be great if you get the coil rewinded and plonk an ape rr.
    to rewind a machismo's coil, you will surely need an auto electrician as its not that easy as winding a standard 150cc bike's stator.

    it will support 2 hids with ease.
    +1 to that, I dont've any hands on experience on a bull. Its better to contact an auto electrician for such conversion as for bulls its quite often they used to do such mods. They know it better than any one else here as most of us are not exposed to bull comps. But one thing I know its very much feasible on a bull as I've seen this DC conversion on many bulls in our place.

    BTW, nano, bulls got a 3 phase RR which is very robust to take care of the addnl power requirements than a 2 phase APE RR.

    OT, sorry for the late reply, I've seen your PM very late.

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  • NANOtechnology
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    A typical royal enfield's stator looks like this..




    it seems that you have a CDI version of machismo which is AC/DC
    it would be 12v.

    the basics wil remain the same, you'll have to get the coil rewinded with a single wire, regarding the guage i think you can use 18 guage easily as there's a LOT of space in your coil, it would never give lesser output at lower revs. (i assume even stock windings are 18 guage)

    if you plan to swap the components to classic 500, you'll have to change your electricals too, you will have to run the bike through TCI ignition.

    for now, i think it will be great if you get the coil rewinded and plonk an ape rr.
    to rewind a machismo's coil, you will surely need an auto electrician as its not that easy as winding a standard 150cc bike's stator.

    it will support 2 hids with ease.

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  • TheNoobGeek
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    Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
    That only you can find out. You have to see one and find out if it will fit the old crankcase.
    Great, so if it fits. It'll work. I faintly remember someone trying to rewind was told that he needed bigger magnets and if he got bigger magnets, the engine can't "support" it.

    Sorry to bug so much. From what I understand, going by the "rotating magnetic field creates electricity", I can fit any stator , provided it fits. Am i correct? Or am I missing something.

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  • abhijeet080808
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    Originally posted by TheNoobGeek View Post
    Thanks Abhi,

    does anyone know if I can replace machismo 350's stator, RR with classic 500's one? or will it be a mismatch (dunno what to say)
    That only you can find out. You have to see one and find out if it will fit the old crankcase.

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  • TheNoobGeek
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    Thanks Abhi,

    does anyone know if I can replace machismo 350's stator, RR with classic 500's one? or will it be a mismatch (dunno what to say)

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  • Ramborider
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    today i quet for nb,osram night breker cost around 800-900!!pair blue glass on it and what diffrence in brightness and other physical chnges it does?like gas in it!!

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  • abhijeet080808
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    Originally posted by Ramborider View Post
    Today i connect that clear type 8mm red led to 2 battry of1.5v each used in torches and bulb get burnt!!! what is that caused???is that red led are 3volt or 2volt?can i connect that with 220ohm resistedce at set of 5 and conect to our 9ah 12volt batry?
    Well, depends on what you bought! Try connecting to 1 battery and see.

    BTW, if you want to discuss this, its better to use the other thread I have for this purpose.

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  • Ramborider
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    Today i connect that clear type 8mm red led to 2 battry of1.5v each used in torches and bulb get burnt!!! what is that caused???is that red led are 3volt or 2volt?can i connect that with 220ohm resistedce at set of 5 and conect to our 9ah 12volt batry?

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