How was this mode done, I am trying to do this on my p150UG2

Wow nice thread.

I believe HIDs work only on DC and my Fiero is AC i guess. Is it absolutely not possible to fit HID on AC? What kind of battery drain is expected if i run the HID on DC? I don't want 1 hour or 2 hour duration. It should be like fit it forget it. Most of my riding is at night.

BTW, i already have a P220 projector fitted in and working brilliantly. Its Low beam only. Friends keep telling me to put in an HID. So just contemplating.

What are the alternatives for a High Beam from an auxiliary lamp. I noticed most of these autos having small round lamps. They look pretty bright, but how good is the beam, What are its specs? any idea?

Hey i did it on a Fiero and this thread is all bout the mod done on a P150, the starter would be able to tell you exactly what to do. Its totally worth it man. for low beam, there is nothing better.

Need options for High Beam, which would not involve me converting to DC, cos thats something i am not interested in.

Thanks, U r right, HID's will work only on DC, very few bikes are full dc as stock, so we need to convert it to DC to support an HID. We've got a specific thread for DC conversion, just follow the links and get it solved. If u r going to install HID, u need to boost the batt charging rate, without that, u cant run the HID not more than 30-45 mins depending on ur batt and alt charging rates. U cant say that no night rides less than 1 hr or so, bcz if the situation demands u need to drive at night regardless of the HID batt backup. So be prepared.

P220 lens is a low beam projector, and results are very impressive, for the high beam u can use the spots like the one u've mentioned. Am using it just for the flashing purpose, but beam spread is too narrow. Also u can opt for car fogs is the best, as the beam spread is very wide but wont go far, thats the limitation. If u can find a dedicated HB sealed beam like in P220 its the best. Hey, why dont u post some pics of ur projector mod?

If u got a HID+Halo combi setup, no need to go for any changes, as long as ur batt is having juice, it will light up HID then u can fully rely on the halogen beam. Its not as costly as the bixenon HID also. So in a way its just a fit nd 4get one

Welcome dude.

P180 UG4 is a full DC, so no changes in wiring as it can handle an HID without any batt issues. If u have any plans to go for a higher watt halogen only other mods required.

There are mainly two types of HID installations like in anyother bulbs, First is HID conversion Kit, it can be directly fitted to the stock reflectors and if u've more weight on ur wallet go for the second type , projectors which will offer a good beam spreads on low beams with min glare to on coming traffics. Normal conversion kits are more cheaper than HID projectors as it starts from 1.5K onwards ofcourse a cheap chinese one, so go for anything falls between 2.5-5K will give u more life span of the lighting system. Light intensity will be more for this as there's no glare cut off sheild in reflectors so u can enjoy the rides at the cost of others happiness

This is a HID Conversion Kit for bikes


And this is the HID bulb illustrates how it performs the dual beam function with a single bulb by the help of a solenoid. Behind the HID , normal halogen bulb



This is how an HID wiring




More info for pros and cons of HIDs on reflectors?


Projectors are really amazing in their perfo especially low beams, but it cost like hell. Range starts from 6K onwards from the accessory shops. If u r lucky, u can get a car projector from junk yards and put a suitable conversion kit for that, but it requires lot of time and skill to get it finished. U can refer Shree's projector mods for Uni on this .



Hope this will clarify everything, if not, come back we all are here to help u

really thanks man.
can we get hid's in 35 wattage?

Yup 35W HID's are the most commonly available ones. You get 55w also but expensive and hard to find !!

Yup 35W HID's are the most commonly available ones. You get 55w also but expensive and hard to find !!

another question.
do we need that hid kit even for a full dc bike like the ug4
and if at all we need projectors do we need two of them one for low beam one for highbeam??
which type suitable for pulsar headlight,H3,h4,h7??

Sajjit
u ve showed a solenoid arrangement.will it make the facility to use only one projector

An HID kit consists of one HID bulb, Ballast and a wiring harness, irrespective of the bike is running in DC/AC. HID takes the power from batt but all these three items are necessary to connect. Its not the way we connect in a halo bulb, its to be connected to the ballast and then to the wiring harness and from there its connected to the batt and switch wirings. A projector is another add on which consists of lens mounted on a elliptical reflector which can be fitted within the sealed beam. A solenoid makes the lens dual beam like when the solenoid lifts the sheild, it releases more light to outside and ineffect it makes the high beam. Normally the solenoid will not be active so the low beam will be served.

This is a schematic illustration of a projector function



I hope u got the idea.

So if u've any idea to upgrade to HID in future, better u select the projector first and then later on to a suitable HID kit for that. If u buy the HID kit first and then its difficult to make it fit in a projector. Pulsar needs an H4 projector as its using a dual beam bulb. H3 is normally for fog and aux lamps not good for driving as the beam spread wont go far. H7 is dedicated to any of the beams like high or low.

really thanks fr ur detailed reply
ok man.
if i don plan on gettin a projector
the high beam and low beam would work like in normal bikes.
where can we find the projectors like what brand name to be specific?
and bixenons are neeeded for dual beam right?

Basically you will need H4 type HID for a Pulsar150.

You get Bi-Xenon HID's means Both Hi and Low are HID bulbs.
Other is Single Xenon - Hi beam HID and Low beam Halogen.

Projectors readily available will be either too expensive or very low quality lens. If you wish to put Projectors then its hell of DIY job for which you should be ready to spend hours/days to get the right setting.

I feel its better you can opt for 3000k/4300k HID (beware of cops) or a 55/60w halogen (cheaper mod).

Regarding reflector melting, yes it does melts over a long period of time (may be 1 or 2 years of extensive usage) if you use halogen. With HID's I don't think it will happen.

There r projectors with dual beam, but mostly are dedicated ones and usually Low beams. As high beam from a dual beam projectors are not that impressive. Check for the beam spreads I've posted from my bixen (Dual Beam) projector.

Only OEM projectors are available here which is very costly. But u can get aftermarket projectors like the one I've installed, comes in pairs, costing around 10-14K range.


Guys, here's my latest re positioned beam spreads.

Low Beam, see the light is clearly cuts just below the neck @ 40mts distance.




High Beam



Another Low Beam shot

High Beam