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  • #121
    What's wrong wth HH,
    I opened a magneto of a passion plus 2005 and it has only one coil for lighting and one for ignition.
    Its rectangular bar shaped.
    I thought it was used on very old models but on 2005 .

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    • #122
      Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
      What's wrong wth HH,
      I opened a magneto of a passion plus 2005 and it has only one coil for lighting and one for ignition.
      Its rectangular bar shaped.
      I thought it was used on very old models but on 2005 .
      I thought you were doing AC to DC on splendor .

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      • #123
        I am doing the Ac/dc to full dc mod on our splendor+2004(it has 3 poles) but
        happened to check our passion's coil out of curiosity.

        Can anyone tell me why a fellow member's(Above_All') stator has three poles which is from a 2002 passion whereas our passion+ 2005 has only one pole ?
        I thought only older HH bikes came with single pole and newer bikes came with 3-poles for lighting/charging.

        Please share your views.
        Last edited by shoeb2015; 12-28-2011, 11:06 PM.

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        • #124
          Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
          Can anyone tell me why a fellow member's(Above_All') stator has three poles which is from a 2002 passion whereas our passion+ 2005 has only one pole ?
          I thought only older HH bikes came with single pole and newer bikes came with 3-poles for lighting/charging.

          Please share your views.
          That's strange , i excepted passion+ will have more than 3 poles of coil for lightning , because when Passion is selling it comes with a normal bulb & later on HH modded it to Passion+ they provided a halogen bulb in it .

          Shoeb did anyone changed it while doing some engine work at private garage ?
          Last edited by Above_All; 12-28-2011, 11:42 PM.

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          • #125
            Originally posted by Above_All View Post
            That's strange , i excepted passion+ will have more than 3 poles of coil for lightning , because when Passion is selling it comes with a normal bulb & later on HH modded it to Passion+ they provided a halogen bulb in it .

            Shoeb did anyone changed it while doing some engine work at private garage ?
            I also think someone might have changed it as the bike is usually used in my dad's factory far away from city.
            Last edited by shoeb2015; 12-28-2011, 11:49 PM.

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            • #126
              Today I got the magneto opened as i dint have necessary tools ie puller and holder.
              While removing ,the mech asked me why I am removing it so told him the idea.

              Pls see the picture.

              Now comes the fun part.
              Mech is saying that if i remove it and desolder the coil end bike wont start,
              How can a lightening coils end be responsible for ignition ?
              SO I just ignored it.

              AFAIK it is grounded as it is the coil end.
              the ground location is different from Above_all's so taking some precaution.

              Is that ground ? (Mechanic confused me alot ,infact I think i lost my electrical knowledge)Man,These mechs are only fit only to confuse everyone.

              Pls confirm if it has to be floated
              check the attachment.
              Last edited by shoeb2015; 12-29-2011, 05:14 PM.

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              • #127
                Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                Today I got the magneto opened as i dint have necessary tools ie puller and holder.
                While removing ,the mech asked me why I am removing it so told him the idea.

                Pls see the picture.

                Now comes the fun part.
                Mech is saying that if i remove it and desolder the coil end bike wont start,
                How can a lightening coils end be responsible for ignition ?
                SO I just ignored it.

                AFAIK it is grounded as it is the coil end.
                the ground location is different from Above_all's so taking some precaution.

                Is that ground ? (Mechanic confused me alot ,infact I think i lost my electrical knowledge)Man,These mechs are only fit only to confuse everyone.

                Pls confirm if it has to be floated
                check the attachment.
                1 end of the lighting coil + 1 end of the ignition coil is grounded

                float the lighting coil & solder it to the ground wire instead. Leave the ignition coil grounded.

                if you follow the above, then you're done. bike will start no matter what!!!
                Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

                Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

                Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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                • #128
                  Shoeb detach the wire connecting the last end f lightning coil to ground & solder another wire to that last terminal to use for full wave & don't forget to cover the detached wire with tape .

                  & is you bought new coil for passion+ or it is of splendor ?

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                  • #129
                    @ Abhijeet Are you sure the ignition coil is also grounded ?
                    @ Above_All
                    In the picture I have encircled the grounding location of lighting coil.
                    Does your bike also have same grounding location ?

                    Please confirm.

                    Also when I tried to de-solder with 60W iron nothing seemed to happen as the coil plate is just acting as a big heat-sink and dissipating the heat .
                    Note-I Will try again to de-solder when the engine is hot after riding at-least 6kms

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee View Post
                      1 end of the lighting coil + 1 end of the ignition coil is grounded

                      float the lighting coil & solder it to the ground wire instead. Leave the ignition coil grounded.
                      Float it the solder it back again ?
                      Ground wire ?? Wheres that?Do you mean the end is which is soldered to the body as ground wire ?
                      (RR unit takes earthing from its shell/body directly)

                      Totally confused with these 100 cc bikes ,in most 150 cc just open the side cover that's it everything is in front of you.

                      Somehow I need to get the coil plate in my hand so that I can inspect the coils while sitting in home with proper lighting
                      Its very difficult to see the copper winding going from one pole to another in by sitting in a awkward position and no proper lighting.

                      Please help me out guys.
                      Last edited by shoeb2015; 12-29-2011, 11:19 PM.

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                        @ Abhijeet Are you sure the ignition coil is also grounded ?
                        @ Above_All
                        In the picture I have encircled the grounding location of lighting coil.
                        Does your bike also have same grounding location ?

                        Please confirm.

                        Also when I tried to de-solder with 60W iron nothing seemed to happen as the coil plate is just acting as a big heat-sink and dissipating the heat .
                        Note-I Will try again to de-solder when the engine is hot after riding at-least 6kms
                        Check the attached picture for that portion , but i haven't touched that part , as i wanted the grounding wire as well as last terminal of coil outside for the AC to DC switching concept , so i just cutted the grounding wire ( attached to last end of coil ) in middle & solder two wires to both that wires & took them outside of magnet .

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                          Check the attached picture for that portion , but i haven't touched that part , as i wanted the grounding wire as well as last terminal of coil outside for the AC to DC switching concept , so i just cutted the grounding wire ( attached to last end of coil ) in middle & solder two wires to both that wires & took them outside of magnet .
                          So you mean that it is the end of lighting coil ?
                          pls check the picture i uploaded earlier.

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                            So you mean that it is the end of lighting coil ?
                            pls check the picture i uploaded earlier.
                            With the end of coil i mean the terminal of copper wire which is attached to a black wire & drove it further to the point of ground , i cutted that black wire , before some pages i posted a pic with arrows check it .

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                            • #134


                              So if I remove this and take it to the RR will it be alright ?

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post


                                So if I remove this and take it to the RR will it be alright ?
                                mamu, the circle shows the ground... you're spot on there.
                                I said float end of the lighting coil... now u have a wire which is also grounded (i.e. ground wire...) float it...
                                now you have 2 floating wires , 1st is ur lighting coil end, 2nd is your ground wire which has been floated... now connect the two (with insulation on top) & you're done...


                                Yes, I'm sure the ignition coil's 1 end is grounded.
                                Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

                                Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

                                Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
                                http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
                                http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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