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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
honda's recommended service interval is,every 4 months or 4000kms whichever is earlier from previous service date.But most ASC's give an interval of 3 months/2500km.In your case,I think the ASC folks made a mistake,it must be 3889km,book it at 3800km or at the given date,which ever comes first.Originally posted by zikzak View PostLast edited by sarinsari92; 08-22-2017, 02:39 PM.
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Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Thanks for the reply.Originally posted by sarinsari92 View Posthonda's recommended service interval is,every 4 months or 4000kms whichever is earlier from previous service date.But most ASC's give an interval of 3 months/2500km.In your case,I think the ASC folks made a mistake,it must be 3889km,book it at 3800km or at the given date,which ever comes first.
I'm using the Dio mostly for city commute and I'm planning to take it for long rides as well.
Do i need to service it before 4000kms recommended by Honda or servicing at 4k should be fine ?
(I'm assuming they have given long service interval considering the scooter will be used for city commute)
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
In my opinion don't push it to 4000km,that is the maximum limit between services,I'd say do it at 2500km,especially if you are planning to do long rides,the scoot is perfectly capable of long highway rides,good power and decent mileage,but do keep in mind that if the road condition is bad,it can give a temporary back pain,especially for the pillion,because the suspension on the dio is not the best out there.Now,I have found a solution to that, but I cannot recommend it,as yours is a new ride and is still under warranty.Originally posted by zikzak View PostThanks for the reply.
I'm using the Dio mostly for city commute and I'm planning to take it for long rides as well.
Do i need to service it before 4000kms recommended by Honda or servicing at 4k should be fine ?
(I'm assuming they have given long service interval considering the scooter will be used for city commute)Last edited by sarinsari92; 08-22-2017, 03:51 PM.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Thanks. But i guess they will accept for free service only between the mentioned interval, not before or after.Originally posted by sarinsari92 View PostIn my opinion don't push it to 4000km,that is the maximum limit between services,I'd say do it at 2500km,especially if you are planning to do long rides,the scoot is perfectly capable of long highway rides,good power and decent mileage,but do keep in mind that if the road condition is bad,it can give a temporary back pain,especially for the pillion,because the suspension on the dio is not the best out there.Now,I have found a solution to that, but I cannot recommend it,as yours is a new ride and is still under warranty.
Also it would be good if you could tell the solution you have found for the suspension.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Oh,I see so that's the case now a days,back when I bought mine,you could book the service as per your convenience,but it has to be with in the given interval that's all.Originally posted by zikzak View PostThanks. But i guess they will accept for free service only between the mentioned interval, not before or after.
Also it would be good if you could tell the solution you have found for the suspension.
Suspension swap (I cannot take credit for this,found it on YouTube)
Swap the rear suspension with the TVS Jupiter's rear suspension,it is a perfect fit on the Dio and mostly on all honda's,
The main difference in the both the suspension is that,TVS uses the modern gas charged monoshock,which is found on modern motorcycles,while honda uses the old age spring loaded one,as they always do,the gas charged one is better and TVS is currently the only manufacturer who offers gas charged suspension on scooters;on certain models only .
I swapped it about a month ago,took the scoot for a couple of long rides as well,no problems,in handling/breaking.However,the seat height will increase by 2cm or so,but its not noticeable until you hop on the scoot.I won't say its as good as the motorcycles/out of the world comfort increase,but its much better than what we get on the scoot.Mine is a 2013 model,I think the suspension is same on the newer models also,but again its always a good idea to double check it with the ASC before you buy it.Cost of the TVS Jupiter's suspension at showroom is 970 bucks and considering the difference it makes in the ride quality,its a good investment.You can swap it at any local mechanic shops.
Note:I'd not do it on a new scoot because you could lose the 2 year warranty,If something does happen,which is highly unlikely,as its a honda,but if it does,the ASC will blame you for swapping the parts and repairs won't be covered under warranty.Last edited by sarinsari92; 08-22-2017, 06:42 PM.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
(I cannot take credit for this,found it on YouTube)Originally posted by sarinsari92 View PostOh,I see so that's the case now a days,back when I bought mine,you could book the service as per your convenience,has to be with in the given interval that's all.
Also it would be good if you could tell the solution you have found for the suspension.
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Thanks for the info. No i won't be doing this mod now on my new scooter.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Can you post some pics with this change.Also , whats the size difference between these two rear shocks.Did you notice that the rear tyre is touching the ground when on main stand.Does the suspension bushes and fasteners need change or is it a clean swap.even I am planning for this modification on my Activa 3g, your inputs will help.Originally posted by sarinsari92 View PostOh,I see so that's the case now a days,back when I bought mine,you could book the service as per your convenience,but it has to be with in the given interval that's all.Suspension swap (I cannot take credit for this,found it on YouTube)Swap the rear suspension with the TVS Jupiter's rear suspension,it is a perfect fit on the Dio and mostly on all honda's,The main difference in the both the suspension is that,TVS uses the modern gas charged monoshock,which is found on modern motorcycles,while honda uses the old age spring loaded one,as they always do,the gas charged one is better and TVS is currently the only manufacturer who offers gas charged suspension on scooters;on certain models only .I swapped it about a month ago,took the scoot for a couple of long rides as well,no problems,in handling/breaking.However,the seat height will increase by 2cm or so,but its not noticeable until you hop on the scoot.I won't say its as good as the motorcycles/out of the world comfort increase,but its much better than what we get on the scoot.Mine is a 2013 model,I think the suspension is same on the newer models also,but again its always a good idea to double check it with the ASC before you buy it.Cost of the TVS Jupiter's suspension at showroom is 970 bucks and considering the difference it makes in the ride quality,its a good investment.You can swap it at any local mechanic shops.Note:I'd not do it on a new scoot because you could lose the 2 year warranty,If something does happen,which is highly unlikely,as its a honda,but if it does,the ASC will blame you for swapping the parts and repairs won't be covered under warranty.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
The TVS suspension is taller by 2/3 cm,did not check it side by side.No,the rear wheel does not touch the ground while on center stand and yes,it is a clean swap,nothing else needs to be changed.On the dio(2013) the seat height increased a little bit but its unnoticeable,doesn't look odd as it blends in with the design of the scoot but I am not sure how the activa would look with the rear raised.Originally posted by Maddy79 View PostCan you post some pics with this change.Also , whats the size difference between these two rear shocks.Did you notice that the rear tyre is touching the ground when on main stand.Does the suspension bushes and fasteners need change or is it a clean swap.even I am planning for this modification on my Activa 3g, your inputs will help.
I found the video on YouTube where the mod was done on an activa,On the video the guy says its fine but to my eyes it definitely looked a little bit raised,I did it anyway because,occasionally I take the dio on long rides and I was fed up of the stock suspension set up.
Do take a look at the video,search for: "nitrox suspension on activa" on YouTube.
Here are some pics
Last edited by sarinsari92; 09-01-2017, 07:57 PM.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Thanks for the info and pics, size comparison was not done in that video too.
Is your shock absorber leaking oil?
2 or 3 cms is close to an inch and that's a good difference in length for such modification.
Please post your long term report once you have done good riding/kms with this suspension setup.
Can you tell the PART number for this shock absorber.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
How old is the tire (in terms of years?). If it's more than 3 yr's change it. It could be uneven tire wear (may not be easily visible) and also the tire structure that also ages and can possibly cause a wobble.Originally posted by _kamikaze_ View PostGoes left-right-left-right. I'm not sure what he and the service center checked, but they both claim they checked out everything
The local mechanic did say something about the column being bent or something and said he fixed it, felt it was bit better although it was temporary, placebo effect ? Issue still exists though.
Get the engine mounting bushes checked. They tend to age and crack over a period of time.
Cone-set. was it checked ? If it was replaced, then the job needs to be done correctly (i.e. installing the race and bearing so that it sits flush and then properly greased and tightened)
Then, there are bushes in the front suspension arm on either side, they need to be greased periodically. Get them inspected, cleaned and greased (or replace if necessary).
That's some of the things that i can think about without riding the scoot.. for a more accurate diagnostics i'd have to ride the scoot.
You could go back thru the pages and search for my posts regarding maintenance/tasks I get done during a regular service. And I also recently came across this youtube channel.. pretty good content. Watch the activa videos by this guy, so you understand about the different parts that i talked about: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqF...KY08cCw/videos
Follow the intervals (days or km whichever is earlier) specified in the manual if you want to retain warranty.Originally posted by zikzak View PostDo i need to service it before 4000kms recommended by Honda or servicing at 4k should be fine ?
If you are not bothered about warranty, then you could extend service intervals to 4000km or 6 months and should be fine. In such a case I'd recommend you switch to a 10w40 oil like the shell ax5 or ax7.
If you use the "recommended" 10w30 grade (i.e. what they use at the svc), Then I'd recommend you get it serviced every 3000km/4 months.
This is from my experience of owning (still own , ~70k km) and maintaining a 2007 Dio, that still runs well with just the basic servicing/periodic preventive maintenance (like replacing drive belt, clutch shoes, variator rollers) and nil engine repairs till date. It has never failed to fire up at the first kick/starter so far
and to date returns the same performance and FE 38~42kmpl.
Last edited by s1d; 09-02-2017, 04:46 AM.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
thanks for pointing it out,I checked it there was just mud,no sign of oil,wiped it clean to double check,I definitely hope its not an oil leakOriginally posted by Maddy79 View PostThanks for the info and pics, size comparison was not done in that video too.
Is your shock absorber leaking oil?
2 or 3 cms is close to an inch and that's a good difference in length for such modification.
Please post your long term report once you have done good riding/kms with this suspension setup.
Can you tell the PART number for this shock absorber.
Yes,its a bit taller than the stock suspension but the only thing affected is the seat height,no issues in handling or anything.
So far I have clocked around 200km with the new suspension,I will post again after clocking some more km.
I don't know the part number,other TVS scooters does not have this suspension set up,I think only Jupiter has it.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Hello, planning to buy a scooter for daily commuting...
Options: Aviator, Activa 125, Activa 4G, Dio
Main requirements: good mileage, reliability and ride quality
I have a Honda Twister, so I believe Honda engines are awesome and reliable that's why I am inclined towards Honda again for scooters...
Plus the sales figures!!
My current option is Activa 125.
Questions:
Which has the best ride quality (suspension, brakes and power delivery)?
Which has the best fuel efficiency?
Finally, Which bike do u recommend?
Do I need to look into any other scooters...?
(Jupiter has questionable build quality, service and parts problem in Access 125, Yamaha scooters have lesser fuel efficiency figures compared to others!)
Sent from my XT1562 using xBhp.com mobile appLast edited by xeo; 09-04-2017, 06:02 PM.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Hi Sarinsari92,
Is this what you had bought/fixed for your Dio.
I inquired few mechanics at TVS service center for Jupiter rear shockabsorber and every one said "Wego and Jupiter" share same part number/Shockabsorber.
Will be fixing this in couple of days.
Update after fixing this shock absorber.
Fixed it and found the initial impression similar to "Sarinsari92"post.
1. Increase in height ~20mm/2cm/1inch.
2. No issues with stability or breaking.
3. Single Gas filled shock absorber is not equivalent to dual shock setup in Motorcycle.
Increase in Seating height might fade away after getting used to it riding few hundred kms.
Far better than stock setup and very easy and useful modification for those who have issues with stiffer current setup of Activa/Dio.
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Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator
Even i never had that noiseon my aviator. Mine has run 23k kms with a belt change at 18k kms. No whistle noise. I have ridden activas and dios with thay sound but never a another aviator.Originally posted by iBerry View PostHi guys... i have a 2016 Aviator done about 6500kms. This is kind of a silly question but has anyone whos ridden a dio or aviator noticed that whistling noise when you let go of the throttle? Yeah my scooter doesnt make that noise at all. My question is...how the hell can i get that whistling noise???
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