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  • Originally posted by arsenalfan001 View Post
    Yeah, I will have atleast a learner before purchase. Thanks.
    Even if You have learner's license its illegal to ride on streets unless You are accompanied by a pillion who has a valid license. Thats what the rules says.
    Last edited by Ri$hi; 06-23-2012, 07:38 AM.

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    • Thanks for the tip bro. Initially I will only ride early morning. Practice sessions.

      For licence also, I need to learn. Being a rookie, asking friends for a bike to learn is not feasible for me, involvs a lot of risk. So..

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      • Hey owners, please help me out here. I am planning to buy a new bike and SS125 is in the list of probables. I liked it mainly because I'm a large guy (6', 85kg and long legs) and its a bigger bike than other 125cc bikes.

        Now I see Gladiator is very common in second hand market. So thinking of maybe going for a used Gladiator instead of a new one, because the prices are as cheap as 25k and if I service it properly it can be brought to new condition and I save loads of cash.

        Problem is all second hand Gladiators or SS125s I see online for sale the owners mention mileages in the range of 40. Isn't this very very low for a 125cc (or even a 150cc) bike ? What is the actual mileage a new SS125 gives, and can a second hand bike be brought back to the same condition ? If yes what will it cost and what are the parts that may have to be replaced ?
        Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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        • Originally posted by MHG View Post
          Hey owners, please help me out here. I am planning to buy a new bike and SS125 is in the list of probables. I liked it mainly because I'm a large guy (6', 85kg and long legs) and its a bigger bike than other 125cc bikes.

          Now I see Gladiator is very common in second hand market. So thinking of maybe going for a used Gladiator instead of a new one, because the prices are as cheap as 25k and if I service it properly it can be brought to new condition and I save loads of cash.

          Problem is all second hand Gladiators or SS125s I see online for sale the owners mention mileages in the range of 40. Isn't this very very low for a 125cc (or even a 150cc) bike ? What is the actual mileage a new SS125 gives, and can a second hand bike be brought back to the same condition ? If yes what will it cost and what are the parts that may have to be replaced ?
          I had gladiator SS for the past 3.3 yrs and I had always managed to get 60+ mileage. Yes gladiator doesn't have a good resale value, I was offered 16k for a well maintained bike but somehow managed to sell it to 23k. When You go for a used bike make sure that it doesn't emit black smoke from the exhaust when revved. If it smokes then the bore and piston are the culprit, a rebore or a new block is needed.

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          • Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
            I had gladiator SS for the past 3.3 yrs and I had always managed to get 60+ mileage. Yes gladiator doesn't have a good resale value, I was offered 16k for a well maintained bike but somehow managed to sell it to 23k. When You go for a used bike make sure that it doesn't emit black smoke from the exhaust when revved. If it smokes then the bore and piston are the culprit, a rebore or a new block is needed.
            What does a new block cost ?
            And what about white smoke ?
            Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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            • Originally posted by MHG View Post
              What does a new block cost ?
              And what about white smoke ?
              I am not sure about the cost of a new block, IMHO its not worth going for a bike which smokes or You have a reason to bring the price down but, later You might have to shell out in the restoration of the bike. When the oil is burnt along with the fuel and air mixture it emits black smoke. In a 4 stroke engine, oil should never enter the combustion chamber.
              I do not know about white smoke, if You happen to know please share it with us.

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              • Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
                I do not know about white smoke, if You happen to know please share it with us.
                I'm not a techie when it comes to bikes. Just an observation that 4-stroke bikes don't emit colored smoke, when in new/good condition. Atleast the newer bikes I have seen (excluding old bullets) that are well maintained run without visible smoke. So logic says isn't something is wrong with white smoke ?

                knowledgeable members please confirm
                Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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                • black smoke indicates fuel air mixture is very rich so fuel is wasted...ie complete combustion doesnt take place and carbon mono oxide by product is obtained(for a complete combustion of fuel the only by products are carbon dioxide and water)

                  white smoke indicates engine oil is being burnt along with the fuel

                  possible reason is that the piston rings are the culprit and u need an engine job to be done
                  Pulsar 200NS parts list
                  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
                    black smoke indicates fuel air mixture is very rich so fuel is wasted...ie complete combustion doesnt take place and carbon mono oxide by product is obtained(for a complete combustion of fuel the only by products are carbon dioxide and water)

                    white smoke indicates engine oil is being burnt along with the fuel

                    possible reason is that the piston rings are the culprit and u need an engine job to be done
                    What color smoke does a bike emit when its running too lean? (without the filter)

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                    • running without filter? it is very harmful for your engine

                      dust will enter the engine and screw it up big time

                      no colour when running lean..
                      Pulsar 200NS parts list
                      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
                        running without filter? it is very harmful for your engine

                        dust will enter the engine and screw it up big time

                        no colour when running lean..
                        The mechanics does that when they try to isolate the issue when the bike doesn't start with their hands on the carburrettor.

                        I have noticed white smoke when the bike is running too lean, You can also remove the plug and see. The color of the plug tells You if its running rich or lean. The color of the plug will be white in color when its too lean, black when too rich. Dark tan is appropriate color. In the same way white smoke comes when the mixture is too lean and vice versa. When the oil is burnt You can see visible black smoke. When the mixture is too rich You get black smoke but its hardly visible.

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                        • as far as i know white smoke is for engine oil burning...black smoke isnt...post ur query on help sction to know more...

                          rich mixture gives black but oil burning gives white...

                          speaking in terms of chemistry lean mixture shudnt give any colour as it means combustion in excess of oxygen so even if too less fuel is given the air is there to completely burn that small amount giving no coloured by product
                          Pulsar 200NS parts list
                          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • Guys.. At what interval should I change the engine oil/???
                            I'm using Catrol semi synthetic..(i guess)

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                            • Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
                              Guys.. At what interval should I change the engine oil/???
                              I'm using Catrol semi synthetic..(i guess)
                              That depends on the kind of oil you use.

                              Usually the semi-synthetic and fully-synthetic oil lasts longer than the mineral oil.

                              If you use mineral oil, you can change the oil after every 2000 Kms.
                              Signals which are timed for 50 Kmph are also timed for 100 Kmph :)

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                              • Originally posted by cmahajan View Post
                                That depends on the kind of oil you use.

                                Usually the semi-synthetic and fully-synthetic oil lasts longer than the mineral oil.

                                If you use mineral oil, you can change the oil after every 2000 Kms.
                                Thanks man..

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