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  • #25441
    Originally posted by Seamus View Post

    So am free to pick my poison. Here is the result, my Black Venom.

    Thankyou Blackthorn for clearing my doubts.

    Got myself 2015 ABS model. 1st owner 9000km on ODO Genuine Kms.

    First few impressions:

    In 250cc segment this bike pulls so cleanly.

    Also the 6th gear is so tall its actually a boon. To be honest thats how a 6th gear should be.
    Congratulations Seamus. A poison chosen well indeed. At 9000 on the odo, you've got yourself a good deal, hoping all the mechanicals and the rudimentary have been to satisfaction. The bike will pull cleanly all the way and the rush post 5.5 is addictive. With good torque low end torque barring the confusing gear ratios that sometimes can be a sore point on traffic. Keep the needle upwards of 5k and it's a different machine altogether and on highways, things can become a blur in no time.

    Those contigos on your bike are next to garbage and don't do justice to the bike. Replace them to Michelin Pilot Streets, and the confidence it inspires is one to feel.

    Ride safe and keep it in good shape, and it will last a decade!

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END
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    • #25442
      There is engine knock sound coming. But only at 5th or 6th gear at 4-5000rpm when i full throttle, not at linear throttle. Or also at times when i climb hills.

      The sound is metalic & this sound doesnt come when idling.

      anybody knows how important is this to fix or can be ignored?

      Thanks

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      • #25443
        Originally posted by Seamus View Post
        There is engine knock sound coming. But only at 5th or 6th gear at 4-5000rpm when i full throttle, not at linear throttle. Or also at times when i climb hills.

        The sound is metalic & this sound doesnt come when idling.
        4-4.5k RPM is fairly low for 5th and 6th gears. So the lugging/knocking will be evident.
        When you are in higher gears like 5/6, try to keep the RPMs above 4.5k... above 5k is ideal for higher gears.

        If still you facing the issue after keeping the RPMs above 4.5 to 5k, you should get it checked at the Honda ASC.
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        • #25444
          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post


          If you're looking for radial series, look for
          Apollo Alpha HI Apollo both front and rear
          110/70-17
          140/70-17
          Apollo Alpha H1 does not come in 140/70 size sadly. However, the 150/60 works fine on the CBR although I personally recommend sticking to stock tyre size. So in 140/70 size, there are not many options if you want radial.
          Michelin Pilot Street Radial 140/70 is a perfect choice but very rare to find due to import ban on it.

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          • #25445
            Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post

            4-4.5k RPM is fairly low for 5th and 6th gears. So the lugging/knocking will be evident.
            When you are in higher gears like 5/6, try to keep the RPMs above 4.5k... above 5k is ideal for higher gears.

            If still you facing the issue after keeping the RPMs above 4.5 to 5k, you should get it checked at the Honda ASC.
            I found out, the reason why this knocking happens. It was nothing but Spark-Knock because of the regular petrol.

            Regular fuel makes the engine knock at those RPM. Hence i mixed regular fuel with XPS 100 and the knocking completly stopped now.




            Took some more pictures Today. This bike's Pulling power is just amazing. Dont regret going for this discontinued Model. Still looks and pulls better than any other current Gen motorcycles.
            Attached Files

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            • #25446
              Originally posted by Seamus View Post
              Regular fuel makes the engine knock at those RPM. Hence i mixed regular fuel with XPS 100 and the knocking completly stopped now.
              Ohh.. that's something new. Will try it in my next refuel and see if I notice any difference.

              Congrats though... The bike looks very well maintained atleast from the appearance.
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              • #25447
                Originally posted by RTRab View Post
                Hey CBR owners and fellow xBhpians,
                I'm new to this forum, hoping to be more regular. I am looking to purchase a second hand Honda CBR 250R. I currently own a TVS Apache RTR 160 4v and am looking to an upgrade to begin long distance highway touring. I recently rented a CBR 250R from Royal brothers in Hyderabad and I must say, being a 40k kms driven bike, the smooth and easy going nature of the engine enchanted me. The TVS Apache RTR 160 4v's engine is incredibly smooth, no doubt, but I found the CBR to be smoother and really confidence inspiring for tackling highways and covering the distance.
                I would really like any advice from owners on how it is to maintain a CBR 250R in the past 2021-2022, more specifically in terms of how the Honda service centers handle them, are the technicians familiar with it, how easily are spares available?
                I stay in Hyderabad so I'm hoping that it might not be an issue in maintaining it.
                Thanks in advance folks !

                "A bike at hand, a beautiful road in sight, now that is state of contentment ! "
                I am a very fresh owner, of used Cbr250r.

                And for service i prefer my trusted mechanic, deals in servicing higher cc bikes. Spare parts shouldnt be an issue as long as they mechanic knows from where to source. Honda service center on the other hand dont keep much spare of cbr and they usually take 15days to order.




                Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?

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                • #25448
                  Originally posted by Seamus View Post
                  Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?
                  The fuel pump is a non-serviceable unit by nature, but by all means they are 100% serviceable and cleanable. The fuel pump has a motor and a connector and that's about it, in layman's terms. A fuel pump is robust enough provided enough fuel is maintained so that the pump doesn't run dry, a dry tank and running will mean a pump that will go kaput soon, and CBR's doesn't come cheap, costing upwards of 12k. The pump can be serviced by a qualified technician if found faulty. Periodic replacement of fuel filter and maintaining adequate fuel level is all that modern FI bike needs for good service life.

                  Hope it helps!

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END
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                  • #25449
                    Originally posted by Seamus View Post

                    I am a very fresh owner, of used Cbr250r.

                    And for service i prefer my trusted mechanic, deals in servicing higher cc bikes. Spare parts shouldnt be an issue as long as they mechanic knows from where to source. Honda service center on the other hand dont keep much spare of cbr and they usually take 15days to order.




                    Has anybody changed or repaired their fuel pump?
                    Hi Seamus,
                    Thanks for the suggestion. I have come across a few CBRs here in Hyderabad, but many of them do not have ABS and those that have ABS have done a good deal of kms. I did go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick . While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
                    I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two . I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth.

                    Thanks in advance again folks !
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                    • #25450
                      Originally posted by RTRab View Post

                      Hi Seamus,
                      Thanks for the suggestion. I have come across a few CBRs here in Hyderabad, but many of them do not have ABS and those that have ABS have done a good deal of kms. I did go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick . While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
                      I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two . I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth.

                      Thanks in advance again folks !
                      If peace of mind is your option, I would strongly suggest you lean towards the SF250 twins. The SF250 is one of the best, if not the best high revving 250 that offers more or less a similar performance, if not slightly better mid range performance than the CBR 250 in city, barring the Duke 250 at a competitive price. Highways is where the SF250 shines, sweet mid range performance is absolute stress free on the highways, coupled with 6 cogs it's a through balance of power and comfort. CBR is a bummer when it comes to choc a bloc traffic, where it demands the rider frequent shifts.

                      If your commute mostly includes slicing through traffic, the choc a bloc traffic of Hyderabad, Gixxer 250 would keep you happy. Coming to maintenance cost, for a similar performance the cost of ownership is comparatively lesser than the CBR in every aspect of ownership, especially when compared to spares, and ease of serviceability and overall spares downtime.

                      Good luck.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END
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                      • #25451
                        Originally posted by RTRab View Post
                        did go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick . While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
                        I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two . I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth
                        Gixxer SF 250 engine is more refined than the CBR. But you should question as to why the owner sold the bike within 2 yrs ?
                        check whether it is bs4 or 6. Check service history, take test ride.

                        The only area where CBR is better than the Gixxer SF 250 is the high speed (120+ kmph) stability. The wind blast is too much on the Gixxer post 120 kmph due to small windscreen.

                        Performance wise both bikes are similar. Both can do 150 top speed, both can do 0-100 inside 10 secs, both return a mileage of ~30 in city, ~35 on highways. The engine is good enough for being oil cooled. So don't worry abt it not being liquid cooled like the CBR.

                        PS - what's the price you were quoted ? Brand new model costs around 2.20L on road here in Mumbai. Just wondering what's the price of a used but only 2 yr old model. Anything around 1.25L would be an awesome deal.
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                        • #25452
                          A look at the CBR250 and their ownership experience is available here in Xbhp. Take time to Go through it . An LC is always better in Engine heat management than an oil cooled one. If the engine temperature and the inside moving parts are stabilized better in hot condition , then it's life and performance under heat stress conditions will be better than an oil cooled one. Every time the Oil cooled engine Becomes Hot and the Oil has to do the cooling , it takes a toll on the oil property over time , and ultimately on the engine.
                          An LC engine oil change can be after a longer Kms traveled than an Oil cooled one. People have changed CBR engine oil at 6,000 Kms to sometimes 8,000 Kms , and the engine had survived. So now it is a question of one's preference , rides likely to be done,and what it costs the pocket .
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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                          • #25453
                            Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post

                            Gixxer SF 250 engine is more refined than the CBR. But you should question as to why the owner sold the bike within 2 yrs ?
                            check whether it is bs4 or 6. Check service history, take test ride.

                            The only area where CBR is better than the Gixxer SF 250 is the high speed (120+ kmph) stability. The wind blast is too much on the Gixxer post 120 kmph due to small windscreen.

                            Performance wise both bikes are similar. Both can do 150 top speed, both can do 0-100 inside 10 secs, both return a mileage of ~30 in city, ~35 on highways. The engine is good enough for being oil cooled. So don't worry abt it not being liquid cooled like the CBR.

                            PS - what's the price you were quoted ? Brand new model costs around 2.20L on road here in Mumbai. Just wondering what's the price of a used but only 2 yr old model. Anything around 1.25L would be an awesome deal.
                            Thanks for the response Ratan, from what I was told, the vehicle seemed to belong to a bank manager who was moving elsewhere. The Gixxer sf is a 2021 model. The price quoted is a little high 1.8L. I will continue searching or trying to negotiate for a cheaper deal. I'm also inclined toward the suzuki becuase it might be easier to handle in the city than the Cbr which is where I need it more.
                            In fact to be honest, I own a Bs6 Apache RTR 160 4V that I'm trying to sell or exchange and get a good deal on the Suzuki Gixxer SF 250.
                            Will keep updating on the same..
                            Thanks for advice folks !

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                            • #25454
                              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

                              If peace of mind is your option, I would strongly suggest you lean towards the SF250 twins. The SF250 is one of the best, if not the best high revving 250 that offers more or less a similar performance, if not slightly better mid range performance than the CBR 250 in city, barring the Duke 250 at a competitive price. Highways is where the SF250 shines, sweet mid range performance is absolute stress free on the highways, coupled with 6 cogs it's a through balance of power and comfort. CBR is a bummer when it comes to choc a bloc traffic, where it demands the rider frequent shifts.

                              If your commute mostly includes slicing through traffic, the choc a bloc traffic of Hyderabad, Gixxer 250 would keep you happy. Coming to maintenance cost, for a similar performance the cost of ownership is comparatively lesser than the CBR in every aspect of ownership, especially when compared to spares, and ease of serviceability and overall spares downtime.

                              Good luck.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Thanks B7ackthorn for the advice, I also feel that Suzuki is the more better choice, I used to drive an R15 V2 in traffic, but when I switched over to an RTR 160 4V, I saw the differencein daily grind of traffic. I think Suzuki Gixxer Sf 250 is the best choice, unless Honda decides that " wait we forgot about CBR 250R, let's get it back"

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                              • #25455
                                1.80L for a used bike makes no sense when the brand new one can be bought for 2.20L (on road Mumbai) even if the used bike is a year old and less ridden.

                                Also, if your usage is mainly city, then u should consider sticking to your Apache bs6 as it is not even 2 yrs old.

                                CBR250R/Gixxer250 are bikes that can do ok in city but real fun is on the highways at 5k+ RPMs

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