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  • Hey hawx, I do think you should go for 2011 model, but asking price is high unless bike in very good condition and zero maintenance required.

    2017 model looks fresh when you compare with 2011 and has no issue of Ignition Lock and Shim noise. Please confirm ( B7ACKTHORN )

    In Pune
    2011 model cost ~50-55k,

    ​​​​2017 model cost ~80k.


    Overall bike is really good in terms of reliability and comfort, mine is 2012 Second owner since 2019.
    Last edited by Vishal Wagh; 11-14-2022, 01:33 PM.

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    • Originally posted by hawx View Post
      Folks, long time lurker here. I am looking for stop gap replacement for RE STD 350 1980 make. I have shortlisted the CBR-250R.

      I am in due process to purchase a used CBR250R. I have shortlisted two vehicles. 2017 make C-ABS done 60k kms(asking price 1Lac) and 2011 make C-ABS done 33k kms(asking price 70k).

      Have test ridden both and both seem to be mechanically sound. However will take a longer ride before finalizing the deal.

      I do not want to spend much on bike as of now (max budget 80k not beyond) and inclined towards the 2011 model as I can use the 30k saved in maintenance of the bike.

      What are your opinions about the same?

      Thanks in advance.
      I would suggest stick to the one that is newer and better. With spares being in demand and generalized service not upto mark, the newer the model, the mechanically sound, the better it is. The 2011 is a good choice considering the kms driven. You can bargain for both depending on the condition of the tires, sprockets etc which are mandatory consumables post purchase. The 2011's consumables are higher when compared to the 2011 which were prone to lockset failures, those lockset costed upwards of 10k IIRC whereas the later ones were in and around 3 to 4k so lots of little things to consider, but do make a choice on one that's mechanically sound.
      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
      The girl said, 'NO!'


      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


      THE END

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      • Originally posted by Vishal Wagh View Post
        2017 model looks fresh when you compare with 2011 and has no issue of Ignition Lock and Shim noise. Please confirm ( B7ACKTHORN )
        In Pune
        2011 model cost ~50-55k,
        ​​​​2017 model cost ~80k.
        The shim noises weren't isolated to a particular year, it mostly came down to wear and tear and maintenance. For some it was longer, for some it was sooner, eventually for them to hear a shim noise, but for the most part, the shims were not at all a trouble. Secondly, the the 2011 models had imported ignition lockset and hence their prices were out of the roof and they also gave up pretty soon, so yes that's one to keep in mind. Said and done, all the important markers ticked and found satisfactory, it's a good choice.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • Originally posted by hawx View Post
          Folks, long time lurker here. I am looking for stop gap replacement for RE STD 350 1980 make. I have shortlisted the CBR-250R.

          I am in due process to purchase a used CBR250R. I have shortlisted two vehicles. 2017 make C-ABS done 60k kms(asking price 1Lac) and 2011 make C-ABS done 33k kms(asking price 70k).

          Have test ridden both and both seem to be mechanically sound. However will take a longer ride before finalizing the deal.

          I do not want to spend much on bike as of now (max budget 80k not beyond) and inclined towards the 2011 model as I can use the 30k saved in maintenance of the bike.

          What are your opinions about the same?

          Thanks in advance.
          Please go for 2017 model. Remember, not just the bike condition, you'll have to find a buyer for it too. Plastic parts of 2011 and 12 model CBRs are not available in most SVC.

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          • Originally posted by Nanda SS View Post

            Understood bro ... I will replace those Sparkplug and Fuel Filter ASAP... But I saw the Spark plug Part no. it does match with Manual... SO I thought it doesn't do any difference.
            Anyway thanks for the light....
            Replaced Spark Plug to Honda Recommended (Cost 498+ Taxes) and Fuel filter yesterday.... (also, Chain Sprocket, both disc pads and hand grips replaced)

            After the service I feel while braking I feel some up and down movement in Handle bar, need to check...

            And what is the run-in time or settling time for new chain sprocket, because feeling more vibrations on foot-pegs ?

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            • Originally posted by Nanda SS View Post

              Replaced Spark Plug to Honda Recommended (Cost 498+ Taxes) and Fuel filter yesterday.... (also, Chain Sprocket, both disc pads and hand grips replaced)

              After the service I feel while braking I feel some up and down movement in Handle bar, need to check...

              And what is the run-in time or settling time for new chain sprocket, because feeling more vibrations on foot-pegs ?
              Tightly adjusted sprocket can cause vibrations. A chain sprocket doesn't have a run-in time, it's smooth from the word go. Re-adjust the slack to the correct mm and lube the chain and make sure the tire is properly aligned. A misaligned tire can cause vibrations and drive train stress.

              Good luck.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • Hi guys,

                My bike has done ~23,000km in 10 years but I recently started to notice tick-tick type noise through engine head. So, decided to check one by one 1. I checked the operation of chain tensioner, working good.

                Removed valve cover for further investigation
                2. Checked timing chain so check whether it is tight or not. It was tight.

                3.So finally I decided to do valve clearance measurements
                Inlet
                0.16mm & 0.15mm (requires 0.13mm~0.19mm) OK

                Exhaust
                0.19 mm & 0.20mm (requires 0.24mm ~ 0.30)
                Not Ok
                So, I do the math and found that I need to choose thinner shims.

                So, here I was little confused that how the hell valve clearance became tighter(usually it wear out so, need to loose).
                So, I called the friend who was working in Ducati as Service engineer. He told me, Due to exhaust gas heat, the valve gets heated and the heat is transferred to the top part of the valve called steam And Shims are placed in between valve steam and fingers follower. Due to which shim size gets expanded over the period of time. Which makes the valve clearance tight. He also told me that, due to this problem manufacturers given Exhaust valve clearance is more than Inlet valve clearance.


                Following are the conclusion of my observation after long time.
                1. After shim replacement, the noise was not completely gone. But i was in town where I don't have option. But noise was very less, so i continue to ride.

                2. After talking with few local Honda mechanic I found that Cbr250r don't have this shims issue, and only by replacing the chain tensioner will short out this issue. I know they are not completely right, still I have checked the tensioner thoroughly and found no issue with tensioner.
                3. After riding the bike city traffic found loss of power and engine sound is Lil louder, even engine rpm climbing to 1800-1900rpm from 1600rpm every time I start it (even engine is hot).
                4. So figured out to replace the chain tensioner and see, after replacement all the above niggles gone and engine sound become smooth and rpm was settle at 1400rpm instantly. Rode it few kms and found bike performing really good.


                So, to conclude please change the chain tensioner as a preventive maintenance. As it is the weakest member from engine assembly (herd from most of local Honda mechanics) to avoid this kind of issues.

                Also do share your experiences about parts need to replace as preventive maintenance.
                Last edited by Vishal Wagh; 12-09-2022, 05:58 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Vishal Wagh View Post
                  So, to conclude please change the chain tensioner as a preventive maintenance. As it is the weakest member from engine assembly (herd from most of local Honda mechanics) to avoid this kind of issues.
                  Replace chain tensioner after what mileage? 50000 kms?
                  2013-17: Yamaha FZ 16
                  2019-Present: 2018 Honda CBR 250R

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                  • Originally posted by siddhant View Post

                    Replace chain tensioner after what mileage? 50000 kms?
                    Replace it whenever you hear a ticking noise. Usually ticking noise (like a sewing machine) is caused by valve clearance issue or chain tensioner issue. Considering it is far easier to replace chain tensioner (costs barely 600 rupees) and doesn't need much labour effort, go for it first. If it doesn't solve the ticking noise issue, valve clerance is the culprit.

                    Do note - Slight ticking and manageable vibrations will always be there. Only go for the above when the noise is very noticeable.

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                    • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

                      Tightly adjusted sprocket can cause vibrations. A chain sprocket doesn't have a run-in time, it's smooth from the word go. Re-adjust the slack to the correct mm and lube the chain and make sure the tire is properly aligned. A misaligned tire can cause vibrations and drive train stress.

                      Good luck.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ

                      Already lubed, and I checked the wheel alignment it seems good to me. Anyways I will take my bike to (X*L) Tyre point near to me.

                      Checked the Handle bar nuts for correcting the vibration while braking and while crossing the bumps and potholes, it seems it was tightned properly. what else the cause for this new issue after service?

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                      • Originally posted by Vishal Wagh View Post
                        Hi guys,

                        My bike has done ~23,000km in 10 years but I recently started to notice tick-tick type noise through engine head. So, decided to check one by one 1. I checked the operation of chain tensioner, working good.

                        Removed valve cover for further investigation
                        2. Checked timing chain so check whether it is tight or not. It was tight.

                        3.So finally I decided to do valve clearance measurements
                        Inlet
                        0.16mm & 0.15mm (requires 0.13mm~0.19mm) OK

                        Exhaust
                        0.19 mm & 0.20mm (requires 0.24mm ~ 0.30)
                        Not Ok
                        So, I do the math and found that I need to choose thinner shims.

                        So, here I was little confused that how the hell valve clearance became tighter(usually it wear out so, need to loose).
                        So, I called the friend who was working in Ducati as Service engineer. He told me, Due to exhaust gas heat, the valve gets heated and the heat is transferred to the top part of the valve called steam And Shims are placed in between valve steam and fingers follower. Due to which shim size gets expanded over the period of time. Which makes the valve clearance tight. He also told me that, due to this problem manufacturers given Exhaust valve clearance is more than Inlet valve clearance.


                        Following are the conclusion of my observation after long time.
                        1. After shim replacement, the noise was not completely gone. But i was in town where I don't have option. But noise was very less, so i continue to ride.

                        2. After talking with few local Honda mechanic I found that Cbr250r don't have this shims issue, and only by replacing the chain tensioner will short out this issue. I know they are not completely right, still I have checked the tensioner thoroughly and found no issue with tensioner.
                        3. After riding the bike city traffic found loss of power and engine sound is Lil louder, even engine rpm climbing to 1800-1900rpm from 1600rpm every time I start it (even engine is hot).
                        4. So figured out to replace the chain tensioner and see, after replacement all the above niggles gone and engine sound become smooth and rpm was settle at 1400rpm instantly. Rode it few kms and found bike performing really good.


                        So, to conclude please change the chain tensioner as a preventive maintenance. As it is the weakest member from engine assembly (herd from most of local Honda mechanics) to avoid this kind of issues.

                        Also do share your experiences about parts need to replace as preventive maintenance.
                        I too replaced cam chain tensioner at 25,000 kms which failed due to low engine oil level (had to top up ~600ml by the time i discovered it). The symptom was stitching machine sound at cold start. I insisted to change the CCT at Didar Chennai, after which the replaced one is still going at 77,000 kms. I have no shim issues. Best thing you can do for your bike is to avoid pressure wash, check tyre pressure every week, lube the chain every weekend or every three days if on a long trip, and start the bike every day. Obviously, checking oil level every week is a good practice too.

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                        • Originally posted by leech View Post

                          I too replaced cam chain tensioner at 25,000 kms which failed due to low engine oil level (had to top up ~600ml by the time i discovered it). The symptom was stitching machine sound at cold start. I insisted to change the CCT at Didar Chennai, after which the replaced one is still going at 77,000 kms. I have no shim issues. Best thing you can do for your bike is to avoid pressure wash, check tyre pressure every week, lube the chain every weekend or every three days if on a long trip, and start the bike every day. Obviously, checking oil level every week is a good practice too.
                          So it seems a preventive measure to replace after 30K KMS, to avoid shim issues....

                          Pressure wash means water wash service station right? because I have using a gun like attachment with hose to wash my bike...

                          Note: My CBR's alloy paint gone already 70% portion, need to paint (DIY)...

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                          • Hello Guy's,

                            I want to raise the handle bars. I have found out some YouTube videos regarding the same who have swapped the handlebars with TVS Appache 4V. But i also noticed that the CBR250R triple clamp (upper) has similar to Honda Hornet 160 (as they both are sharing the same fork, but not sure).

                            So my question is does anyone tried or confirm that Honda Cbr250r triple clamp/trees (upper) is similar to Honda Hornet 160. So, that we can have best option in terms of raised handlebars.

                            Thanks

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                            • Guys, need some knowledge here... I thought of buying a thermostat from the svc just in case mine goes kaput in the next 5 years. Is it necessary? Can the cbr run without thermostat valve like we do for some old cars where the thermostat fails?

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                              • Originally posted by leech View Post
                                Guys, need some knowledge here... I thought of buying a thermostat from the svc just in case mine goes kaput in the next 5 years. Is it necessary? Can the cbr run without thermostat valve like we do for some old cars where the thermostat fails?
                                Honda is selling CB300R in our market, with same engine with big bore kit and few change related components. But the overall parts are same like radiator, so in case of thermostat we can source from there.

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