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  • Re: KTM DUKE 200 not firing UP

    Originally posted by rbhatt23 View Post
    hi there, its my first help post in XBHP family, i own a 2013 KTM duke 200. ridden around 18000 KM with a factory packed engine. i recently got its fuel pump changed due to the lack of power of the bike. after a day, i started to notice that the bike was automatically killing its RPM once i pass any obstacle on road IE. a speed breaker, next day, when i tried to fire up the engine. nothing happened. every digital part of my bike is working fine supposed to be, except engine itself, when am hitting the self switch, motor is doing its work but there is no movement in bike. i doubt that its the issue of roll over switch (tip over switch). because the day before i changed its fuel pump, bike was fallen down, and it didn't turned off itself until i didn't turned it off. can anyone guide me the location of roll over switch in my 2013 duke 200 ? and is it possible to start the bike after removing a roll over switch ?
    also, when i am turning on my bike, i am getting engine light error (1 time long, followed by 6 short blinks)
    Actually, when the light blinks 1 times followed by 5 is a roll over sensor circuit fault, potentially the sensor it at fault. I'd suggest you to count the blinks again, I presume it should be 1 long followed by 5 short which means roll over sensor is at fault. 16 as in one long and six short is a radiator fan motor diagnostic code. I'd suggest you check your roll over sensor, and recheck the could once again. Also you can view the codes at SVC using their diagnostic tool as it would show the faulty part. Keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Hi guys, I am having a problem with my 2015 Duke 200 run 26k kms. It's refusing to start, the fuel pump is not priming on ignition and the start button is just making clicking noise whenever I press. The battery is factory one not changed yet. I used to get low battery signal sometimes but it would go away almost instantly or on turning ignition on - off.

      The bike is stranded at my office, I rode it there at 12 pm, but it refuses to start at 7pm.

      I was getting 1-2 false starts for the last two days but it just died yesterday.

      If the fuel pump doesn't prime, I doubt if I can push start it in 2nd gear. Also, can I tether another bike's battery to start like we do in cars.

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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
        Hi guys, I am having a problem with my 2015 Duke 200 run 26k kms. It's refusing to start, the fuel pump is not priming on ignition and the start button is just making clicking noise whenever I press. The battery is factory one not changed yet. I used to get low battery signal sometimes but it would go away almost instantly or on turning ignition on - off.

        The bike is stranded at my office, I rode it there at 12 pm, but it refuses to start at 7pm.

        I was getting 1-2 false starts for the last two days but it just died yesterday.

        If the fuel pump doesn't prime, I doubt if I can push start it in 2nd gear. Also, can I tether another bike's battery to start like we do in cars.
        You can jump start it. I did it when I was in similar situation and could not find another battery near by. The mechanic just touched the points of another battery to my existing battery terminals and it started. Though this is not the best option. You can remove the battery and charge it for an hour at nearest mechanic. Once your bike starts it won't stall in between. Suggest you buy buy another battery quickly. A faulty battery can affect electricals and you would not want to take that risk.

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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
          Hi guys, I am having a problem with my 2015 Duke 200 run 26k kms. It's refusing to start, the fuel pump is not priming on ignition and the start button is just making clicking noise whenever I press. The battery is factory one not changed yet. I used to get low battery signal sometimes but it would go away almost instantly or on turning ignition on - off.

          The bike is stranded at my office, I rode it there at 12 pm, but it refuses to start at 7pm.

          I was getting 1-2 false starts for the last two days but it just died yesterday.

          If the fuel pump doesn't prime, I doubt if I can push start it in 2nd gear. Also, can I tether another bike's battery to start like we do in cars.
          Considering the age and kays your bike has clocked, it's imperative that you replace your battery. 4 years is a decent life for stock battery. Since your fuel pump isn't priming and the starter motor not getting enough amps to crank the engine over is a prime indicator that your battery is end of its life. The false starts mean, your fuel injectors/fuel pump can't spray enough fuel as they need good battery voltage.

          To your last point; yes you can jump start by tethering your bike, but make sure you use only 12v battery and do not start your car, as starting your car can fry your bike's battery and wiring. If possible use a battery of a motorcycle/battery for peace of mind if you're not sure how to do the procedure. And no, dhakka start won't work, since your fuel pump and injectors are dead, you'll only tire yourself making a push start in any gear.

          Bottomline: 1. Replace the battery 2. Check the charging voltage at the battery terminals 3. Make sure your battery lugs are properly clamped. Should solve your problem.

          Keep your observations posted.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 05-24-2018, 10:30 PM.
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Got the issue resolved. The fuel pump got air in it. Just had to put fresh petrol and some shaking and multiple tries did it.

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
              Got the issue resolved. The fuel pump got air in it. Just had to put fresh petrol and some shaking and multiple tries did it.
              That's great. I am still not sure how your bike started by shaking it multiple times, but w.r.t your previous it's highly unlikely with a dead battery. Nonetheless, if your bike cranks fine, do get your battery checked too,

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
                Got the issue resolved. The fuel pump got air in it. Just had to put fresh petrol and some shaking and multiple tries did it.
                probably a poor electrical connection rather than 'air in fuel pump'.
                because even if the fuel pump doesn't prime, the motor should turn when you thumb the starter i.e. it should 'attempt' a start/crank but not start since there is no fuel.
                better check the battery (the svc can use their battery tester tool) a battery which isn't working well might stress the charging circuit components further, fuses (remove, inspect and maybe spray some contact cleaner and put them back in), starter relay (a soon to fail relay might work intermittently, clicking usually is the relay working) or worse an impending starter motor failure i.e. the relay is working but either no juice to crank the engine or the starter motor might need a rebuild (i.e. usually cleaning it and replacing new carbon brush)
                Last edited by s1d; 05-25-2018, 12:33 AM.

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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by s1d View Post
                  probably a poor electrical connection rather than 'air in fuel pump'.
                  I got battery tested last month during service. I believe it was due to low fuel level but still will get battery checked.

                  Also, I am having some concerns regarding the clutch. Is it true that the clutch expands when engine is hot?? Because I am not able to adjust it the way I want as it goes soft after riding for some time.

                  Btw, I changed my front break pads the 2nd time last month and again it's only wearing on 1 side and 2nd side is literally brand new. This has happened for the second time. The feel on lever is also not consistent as sometimes it's normal and sometimes it pulls in almost all the way.

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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Guys any idea the price of the rear shock? I was quoted 3800rs... Which is quite expensive

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                      Guys any idea the price of the rear shock? I was quoted 3800rs... Which is quite expensive
                      I got the same quote when I asked last month.

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
                        I got the same quote when I asked last month.
                        Its for my friend's Duke , I'm a bit shocked it's more expensive than my cbr shock which is about 1900-2200,

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
                          I got battery tested last month during service. I believe it was due to low fuel level but still will get battery checked.

                          Also, I am having some concerns regarding the clutch. Is it true that the clutch expands when engine is hot?? Because I am not able to adjust it the way I want as it goes soft after riding for some time.

                          Btw, I changed my front break pads the 2nd time last month and again it's only wearing on 1 side and 2nd side is literally brand new. This has happened for the second time. The feel on lever is also not consistent as sometimes it's normal and sometimes it pulls in almost all the way.
                          you had said you only heard a clicking/ticking sound when you tried to start the bike.
                          i explained how the system works.. even if you do not have fuel, the bike has to crank when you thumb the starter and if it doesn't then most likely it might not be related to the fuel pump.
                          coming to the brake pad uneven wear.. it is due to the pistons on one side of the caliper being stuck. the front has 4 pistons, 2 on either side which push the pads towards the disc.
                          you need to get the caliper serviced (don't fall for the 'saaar we have replace the caliper nonsense) i.e. remove the pistons, clean and put back together (or better get the caliper repair kit, sometimes called major kit) and it usually comes with the pistons and new seals and costs just a cpl of 100 bucks. while at it, check the maser cylinder also (you also get a kit to rebuild it.. called minor kit iirc) and since you are servicing the caliper might as well dump the old fluid and add new fluid and bleed it properly.

                          here is a link to someone who has replaced the caliper rebuild kit.


                          Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                          Guys any idea the price of the rear shock? I was quoted 3800rs... Which is quite expensive
                          Yes, that is the price. which is reasonable i think , btw the front fork assy costs a whopping 22k + !! now that's expensiveee!!!!
                          Last edited by s1d; 05-25-2018, 11:47 PM.

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by Vishal_G View Post
                            I got battery tested last month during service. I believe it was due to low fuel level but still will get battery checked.

                            Also, I am having some concerns regarding the clutch. Is it true that the clutch expands when engine is hot?? Because I am not able to adjust it the way I want as it goes soft after riding for some time.

                            Btw, I changed my front break pads the 2nd time last month and again it's only wearing on 1 side and 2nd side is literally brand new. This has happened for the second time. The feel on lever is also not consistent as sometimes it's normal and sometimes it pulls in almost all the way.
                            Yes, clutch plates expand when heated up, and always adjust your clutch freeplay once the engine is cooled. When you adjust your clutch freeplay or clutch slack on a hot engine, it can throw you off reading. And secondly, one sided pad wear is mostly glazing, and the inconsistent lever feedback is an attestation to this. Drain the old brake fluid, completely bleed the system once again, grease the caliper pins and make sure the pads are replaced once again.

                            Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                            Guys any idea the price of the rear shock? I was quoted 3800rs... Which is quite expensive
                            Yes, that's the right price, and yes it is quite expensive. You can get them at even cheaper prices when scavenged in used markets, where they haul aplenty.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Hello guys,

                              I am experiencing handle wobbling at lower speed (below 40) ? What could be the possible reason ?

                              Model : 2015
                              Tyre pressure : 28 front, 32 rear
                              Mileage : 15000km

                              I have visited service center multiple times and finally they changed the conset, but still I am facing the same issue ?

                              Any help would be highly appreciated
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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by livinjoy View Post
                                Hello guys,

                                I am experiencing handle wobbling at lower speed (below 40) ? What could be the possible reason ?

                                Model : 2015
                                Tyre pressure : 28 front, 32 rear
                                Mileage : 15000km

                                I have visited service center multiple times and finally they changed the conset, but still I am facing the same issue ?

                                Any help would be highly appreciated
                                ensure the steering stem/head is tightened properly, it should move freely and not too loose or tight. and make sure the front wheel/forks are aligned properly. you can losen the pinch bolts on the forks and the axle and pump the front end down a few times and tighten them back again.

                                then check the front wheel bearings, the tire for uneven wear/damage and finally the rim itself for truness.

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