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  • kany1991
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    Which one? For Kim or ns200? I asked at their SVC & also at their bike lot here in coimbatore where they keep their new bikes & do all the initial installations like accessories, etc. Actually I visited there to select color of my bike since they didn't have all versions in their showroom.

    Anyhow I will give my feedback on using FS oil once the 1st 2k ODO completed - especially any negative impact if any, which will may help others.
    Hp one (20w-50)
    but you can opt for d400 FS oil made by total 10w-50 (lasts upto 4.5k for me)
    For ktm its motul 7100 fs oil

    PS im using 7100 odo reading is 60k+
    Last edited by kany1991; 01-17-2019, 11:06 PM.

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  • samy_jk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
    Bhai its mineral oil
    Which one? For Kim or ns200? I asked at their SVC & also at their bike lot here in coimbatore where they keep their new bikes & do all the initial installations like accessories, etc. Actually I visited there to select color of my bike since they didn't have all versions in their showroom.

    Anyhow I will give my feedback on using FS oil once the 1st 2k ODO completed - especially any negative impact if any, which will may help others.

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  • kany1991
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    Great info & I think have read that earlier before too!

    But most of the OEMs' don't put mineral oil on their new bikes. Bajaj itself using SS oil in NS & RS series made by HP 20W50 which I confirmed with their ASC manager. He also told KTMs come with FS MOTUL oil as OEM filled.
    Bhai its mineral oil

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  • samy_jk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    Sure, will check on it!
    Great info & I think have read that earlier before too!

    But most of the OEMs' don't put mineral oil on their new bikes. Bajaj itself using SS oil in NS & RS series made by HP 20W50 which I confirmed with their ASC manager. He also told KTMs come with FS MOTUL oil as OEM filled.

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  • samy_jk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Rav23cbzx View Post
    Odo now 757 well i can say my riding style is exactly tamer version of your's riding style
    During first couple of hundred km...in heavy traffic while returning home i could hear the radiator fan sound before that hot air blowing to my legs which attracted my attention towards radiator fan sound
    Yes Now the radiator fan noise I barely hear while riding as the streets conditions have been less traffic heavy and radiator fan has been less vocal of it has got on...without me realizing.

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    You may go to like through this article's link posted way back in this thread
    Excerpt from the article-

    Don’t mollycoddle your new engine with expensive oils either. Running in oils are rare and completely unnecessary on a modern engine, but here’s a shock, don’t splash out either on a costly fully synthetic oil until your engine’s covered at least 5,000 miles (8,000km). This comes from the highest authority, Castrol, who would love you to buy the company’s expensive synthetic oils...

    Running_in_17
    This is why the Castrol boys know what they're talking about
    Peter Brett says that they’ve discovered synthetic oils actually interfere with running in, for reasons which go beyond their low friction properties - there also seems to be a chemical process happening which hinders it. “Although you can treat an engine as fully run in after 500 miles, surface stabilisation continues for at least the first 5,000 miles of an engine’s life,” he says. “Synthetic oils actively prevent this from happening, and not simply by holding friction surfaces apart, although we still don’t know exactly why and how this happens. But there’s no doubt they inhibit the process itself. So the consequence of using a synthetic too early is your engine will never run in properly. I would even suggest waiting until 10,000 miles (16,000km) before using it in most engines subjected to normal use. Until then, you’re best to use an inexpensive but branded mineral oil.

    Long posts are good mate..no probs discuss as much as you can about the bike
    Sure, will check on it!

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  • Rav23cbzx
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by lokeshc View Post
    Bro i got first service at 400 kms.
    Bajaj Oil.
    I've been riding the bike in 2 modes ( made up by me )normal & crazy.
    Normal = Very gradually take RPM to the point where you can hear the engine make some noise (about 3.5 to 4k RPM) Not exceeding 70 kmph
    Crazy = Accelerate like a race bike but no red lining though.
    Have touched 146 kmph max. The wind was too much that day.
    Mileage 38 kmpl with 150 kms of Ghat section + 200 kms highway and the rest city traffic. Full tank to reserve method of calculations.

    Also, i noticed that duke 200 when the radiator fan is on makes so much noise that you can hear it.
    My radiator fan was not running or i could not notice the sound.
    So rode for 10kms by revving the engine and stopped, revved for 30 secs while observing the fan.
    It turned on but the sound not like that of a duke 200's fan sound.
    I sound paranoid maybe but tell if you guys also cannot hear the radiator fan working when riding the bike.
    When i get down i can hear but not as much as duke's.
    This correct for NS? I tried searching for this on youtube but i only found how to fix radiator fan videos.

    Now Odo almost at 2k Kms. Will change oil and filter with motul and see if i feel there is any change.
    Odo now 757 well i can say my riding style is exactly tamer version of your's riding style
    During first couple of hundred km...in heavy traffic while returning home i could hear the radiator fan sound before that hot air blowing to my legs which attracted my attention towards radiator fan sound
    Yes Now the radiator fan noise I barely hear while riding as the streets conditions have been less traffic heavy and radiator fan has been less vocal of it has got on...without me realizing.

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    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    I thought the same about FS oil. But heard of some saying it as myth as reputable companies like Mobil, total are starting the same. Also IMO FS oils are most refined engine oils which will hold its viscosity stable at high temperatures & last longer than regular mineral or SS oils.

    So I don't understand how FS oil would harm the new engine or the running in period. But price wise its costly expense for new engines since we will be changing it very often initially. Anyhow it's my understanding.

    This is the 2nd time I have changed FS oil. 1st time it was bajaj FS oil made by TOTAL - got it filled by SVC at 1st service. 2nd time I changed it to MOTUL 7100 10W50. I havent faced any prob so far rather my idling is stable now than earlier. Engine noise & vibs got reduced. But I had to ride till 250 kms to feel the difference.

    Sorry for the long post.

    You may go to like through this article's link posted way back in this thread
    Excerpt from the article-

    Don’t mollycoddle your new engine with expensive oils either. Running in oils are rare and completely unnecessary on a modern engine, but here’s a shock, don’t splash out either on a costly fully synthetic oil until your engine’s covered at least 5,000 miles (8,000km). This comes from the highest authority, Castrol, who would love you to buy the company’s expensive synthetic oils...

    Running_in_17
    This is why the Castrol boys know what they're talking about
    Peter Brett says that they’ve discovered synthetic oils actually interfere with running in, for reasons which go beyond their low friction properties - there also seems to be a chemical process happening which hinders it. “Although you can treat an engine as fully run in after 500 miles, surface stabilisation continues for at least the first 5,000 miles of an engine’s life,” he says. “Synthetic oils actively prevent this from happening, and not simply by holding friction surfaces apart, although we still don’t know exactly why and how this happens. But there’s no doubt they inhibit the process itself. So the consequence of using a synthetic too early is your engine will never run in properly. I would even suggest waiting until 10,000 miles (16,000km) before using it in most engines subjected to normal use. Until then, you’re best to use an inexpensive but branded mineral oil.

    Long posts are good mate..no probs discuss as much as you can about the bike

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  • samy_jk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Rav23cbzx View Post
    I have only once got to 5k rpm in 4,5,6 gears .LOL..guess m babying it too much
    Have not checked mileage yet
    FS oils are to be avoided till 5-6k km
    for running in mineral oils are suitable..
    I have been mostly sedate with wrist but sometimes I take the bike to 2k-4k rpm a bit aggressively in 3+ gears
    Yeah warming up for atleast 1.5min I do...with choke..now have to rectify choke lever as it's not staying up
    I thought the same about FS oil. But heard of some saying it as myth as reputable companies like Mobil, total are starting the same. Also IMO FS oils are most refined engine oils which will hold its viscosity stable at high temperatures & last longer than regular mineral or SS oils.

    So I don't understand how FS oil would harm the new engine or the running in period. But price wise its costly expense for new engines since we will be changing it very often initially. Anyhow it's my understanding.

    This is the 2nd time I have changed FS oil. 1st time it was bajaj FS oil made by TOTAL - got it filled by SVC at 1st service. 2nd time I changed it to MOTUL 7100 10W50. I havent faced any prob so far rather my idling is stable now than earlier. Engine noise & vibs got reduced. But I had to ride till 250 kms to feel the difference.

    Sorry for the long post.

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  • lokeshc
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Rav23cbzx View Post
    I have only once got to 5k rpm in 4,5,6 gears .LOL..guess m babying it too much
    Have not checked mileage yet
    FS oils are to be avoided till 5-6k km
    for running in mineral oils are suitable..
    I have been mostly sedate with wrist but sometimes I take the bike to 2k-4k rpm a bit aggressively in 3+ gears
    Yeah warming up for atleast 1.5min I do...with choke..now have to rectify choke lever as it's not staying up
    Bro i got first service at 400 kms.
    Bajaj Oil.
    I've been riding the bike in 2 modes ( made up by me )normal & crazy.
    Normal = Very gradually take RPM to the point where you can hear the engine make some noise (about 3.5 to 4k RPM) Not exceeding 70 kmph
    Crazy = Accelerate like a race bike but no red lining though.
    Have touched 146 kmph max. The wind was too much that day.
    Mileage 38 kmpl with 150 kms of Ghat section + 200 kms highway and the rest city traffic. Full tank to reserve method of calculations.

    Also, i noticed that duke 200 when the radiator fan is on makes so much noise that you can hear it.
    My radiator fan was not running or i could not notice the sound.
    So rode for 10kms by revving the engine and stopped, revved for 30 secs while observing the fan.
    It turned on but the sound not like that of a duke 200's fan sound.
    I sound paranoid maybe but tell if you guys also cannot hear the radiator fan working when riding the bike.
    When i get down i can hear but not as much as duke's.
    This correct for NS? I tried searching for this on youtube but i only found how to fix radiator fan videos.

    Now Odo almost at 2k Kms. Will change oil and filter with motul and see if i feel there is any change.
    Last edited by lokeshc; 01-15-2019, 11:05 PM.

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  • Rav23cbzx
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    You won't believe if I say I haven't been following the run in method from their manual - riding 6th gear below 4k rpm as they say? No way, if you try so then the engine would feel like there is no gas or lugging.

    Initially I was thinking about the run in thing. But you know what I started ride it above 4k rpm - 6k rpm just after 300 kms. But here am not talking about redline it.

    The way I do it is I always idle it for 2 mts for warmup the engine when starting the bike & ride it below 50 km/h for few kms. Then I just ride & shift gear when I feel the engine starts to be harsh(means that's the RPM limit it can produce max power for all gears without heating up the engine more given the condition of the engine i hope) - thats all. You can feel the RPM limit increases for each gear without harshness as you run on more kms.

    I randomly push it to touch 70 - 80 km/h but not for long. Just don't do sudden acceleration or vice versa.

    Now as the KMs passed on I can feel the engine is becoming smoother on RPMs range for each gear day by day. I don't hear any noise other then the stroke sound from the engine.

    Mileage - am getting 38 to 42/ltr.

    Also i have been using fully synthetic from my 1st service. After switching to MOTUL 7100 vibes & engine sounds became lower & I can now hear the exhaust note clearly.
    I have only once got to 5k rpm in 4,5,6 gears .LOL..guess m babying it too much
    Have not checked mileage yet
    FS oils are to be avoided till 5-6k km
    for running in mineral oils are suitable..
    I have been mostly sedate with wrist but sometimes I take the bike to 2k-4k rpm a bit aggressively in 3+ gears
    Yeah warming up for atleast 1.5min I do...with choke..now have to rectify choke lever as it's not staying up

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  • samy_jk
    replied
    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Rav23cbzx View Post
    Still keeping the rpm till 4k?how are you riding after 1k km?in rpm terms
    You won't believe if I say I haven't been following the run in method from their manual - riding 6th gear below 4k rpm as they say? No way, if you try so then the engine would feel like there is no gas or lugging.

    Initially I was thinking about the run in thing. But you know what I started ride it above 4k rpm - 6k rpm just after 300 kms. But here am not talking about redline it.

    The way I do it is I always idle it for 2 mts for warmup the engine when starting the bike & ride it below 50 km/h for few kms. Then I just ride & shift gear when I feel the engine starts to be harsh(means that's the RPM limit it can produce max power for all gears without heating up the engine more given the condition of the engine i hope) - thats all. You can feel the RPM limit increases for each gear without harshness as you run on more kms.

    I randomly push it to touch 70 - 80 km/h but not for long. Just don't do sudden acceleration or vice versa.

    Now as the KMs passed on I can feel the engine is becoming smoother on RPMs range for each gear day by day. I don't hear any noise other then the stroke sound from the engine.

    Mileage - am getting 38 to 42/ltr.

    Also i have been using fully synthetic from my 1st service. After switching to MOTUL 7100 vibes & engine sounds became lower & I can now hear the exhaust note clearly.

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  • Rav23cbzx
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by samy_jk View Post
    Just 1235 kms!
    Still keeping the rpm till 4k?how are you riding after 1k km?in rpm terms

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  • #bpk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by lokeshc View Post
    No. I got the bike in december 2018 so i'm very new to the bike. Let me try out the group. If you can add me that would be great. 8970619679
    That's the reason [emoji6] No, i can't add you i am not admin.

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  • lokeshc
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
    Are you in the whatsapp group [emoji53]
    No. I got the bike in december 2018 so i'm very new to the bike. Let me try out the group. If you can add me that would be great. 8970619679

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  • #bpk
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by lokeshc View Post
    What do you mean by that? I thought the bike has gotten better and hence bought it in december. Odo at close to 2k now. Do you mean the power has been reduced because of emission norms?
    Are you in the whatsapp group [emoji53]

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  • lokeshc
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    Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
    Because quality of ns 200 has downgraded in its recent avatar.
    What do you mean by that? I thought the bike has gotten better and hence bought it in december. Odo at close to 2k now. Do you mean the power has been reduced because of emission norms?

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