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  • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

    Originally posted by djmacpro View Post
    hello my service is due and my KMs will be exceeding the limit so want to disconnect the odometer in my bike can some one help me do that so that i can stop my odo reading from exceeding further so that the SVC dont create any issue while giving bike for servicing.
    You can exceed 200-250km extra, nothing will happen, just tell the service guy you are busy with works. But you should not exceed more than that. It may affect engine as engine oil (I am thinking you are filling engine oil from the service center only) gets bad & turn into muck/muddy if not changed in time. Other than that every parts need to be checked at a specific time of interval, avoiding which may lead to sudden breakdown in the middle of nowhere.

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    Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post
    The stock front 100/80 tyre has a height of 80mm whereas the 110/70 tyre has a height of 77mm, the stock tyre is slightly taller the difference is around 3.9% which won't affect much but you will get slight speedometer error. Your actual speed will be a bit lower than what is displayed on your speedometer. The main concern is that up sizing or downsizing the front tyre may affect the handling of your motorcycle so its safe to stick to the stock profile for the front tyre.

    Here's a chart showing how much will be the difference in speed.
    FZ-S has speedo error around 7-8%, like 108 in speedo is actually 100 in GPS (or in Google map).
    Also the 100/80-17 stock tyre rim allow the 110/70-17 wider tyre to seat a little curvy as duke 200 rim is wider than fz-s rim. So, the tyre will shape a little round than oval at bottom. The Eclipse minor radius will increase, so 77 (110*70%) will not be 77 in actual, may be 80 or 82, or 85. So, the tyre may look a tad little taller helping the speedo error to be reduced a little margin say 5%. Which is a good actually. And, 110/70 tyre always has better tyre rating than 100/80 tyre (considering same brand and model), so 110/70 R17 is heavy at front but will allow more lean angle than before.
    Regards
    Saikat

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    • Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

      The bike was inspected by the service engineer regarding the noise from the engine according to him the culprit was the clutch bell so changed it under warrenty and also the service center guys adjusted the tappets but the sound didnt vanished completly the frequency has reduced thats it. There is no
      Permanent solution for this as many Fz owners reported the same.

      Vanp & #bpk how are your bikes doing??
      Last edited by truelypulsarian; 08-18-2019, 04:18 PM.
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      • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

        I was returning home from a long extreme monsoon trip. Had ridden over 2300 kms in torrential rains and super bad roads covering Hyderbad - Goa - Amoli - Satara - Mahabaleshwar - Pune - Rajmachi - lonavala - Khandala. On the way back to hyderabad from Pune, after covering 150 kms, my drive chain snapped while I was cruising at 100 kmph. The chain immediately locked the rear wheel and I went 150 meters sliding (fishtailing the rear wheel). I could manage to contersteer the slide enough to not crash. the bike came to a halt after 150 meters of sliding.

        The damages were catastrophic. I had to get the bike toed on two different trolleys (chota haathi type / Ashok Leyland).

        PS - The chain had done 24000 kms before this incident. The chain was making horrible noises in the last 200 kms before the mishap.

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        I started sliding before that board on the left.
        Last edited by bobisbacktorock; 09-05-2019, 09:06 AM.
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        • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

          Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post
          The bike was inspected by the service engineer regarding the noise from the engine according to him the culprit was the clutch bell so changed it under warrenty and also the service center guys adjusted the tappets but the sound didnt vanished completly the frequency has reduced thats it. There is no
          Permanent solution for this as many Fz owners reported the same.

          Vanp & #bpk how are your bikes doing??
          Sorry bro just saw your post .. Bike is doing same as before .. no change in sound .. Yamaha can ignore this issue all they want .. but this is a manufacturing defect in their so called Japanese engine that we have to live with .. I would suggest you to ignore it as we cannot do anything .. just try not to void your warranty so if anything happens in future .. Yamaha will fix their issues for free

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          Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
          I was returning home from a long extreme monsoon trip. Had ridden over 2300 kms in torrential rains and super bad roads covering Hyderbad - Goa - Amoli - Satara - Mahabaleshwar - Pune - Rajmachi - lonavala - Khandala. On the way back to hyderabad from Pune, after covering 150 kms, my drive chain snapped while I was cruising at 100 kmph. The chain immediately locked the rear wheel and I went 150 meters sliding (fishtailing the rear wheel). I could manage to contersteer the slide enough to not crash. the bike came to a halt after 150 meters of sliding.

          The damages were catastrophic. I had to get the bike toed on two different trolleys (chota haathi type / Ashok Leyland).

          PS - The chain had done 24000 kms before this incident. The chain was making horrible noises in the last 200 kms before the mishap.

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          I started sliding before that board on the left.
          that's really scary .. you are really lucky to come out unscratched from this .. hope the bike gets well soon .. share the repair cost
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          • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

            Originally posted by vanp View Post
            Sorry bro just saw your post .. Bike is doing same as before .. no change in sound .. Yamaha can ignore this issue all they want .. but this is a manufacturing defect in their so called Japanese engine that we have to live with .. I would suggest you to ignore it as we cannot do anything .. just try not to void your warranty so if anything happens in future .. Yamaha will fix their issues for free

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            that's really scary .. you are really lucky to come out unscratched from this .. hope the bike gets well soon .. share the repair cost
            Spares costed 5000 INR. Rest I fixed it myself. Made a video of the DIY. Will publish on my channel shortly.
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            Ride to Dandeli
            Kuntala waterfalls at its best
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            • Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

              Originally posted by vanp View Post
              Sorry bro just saw your post .. Bike is doing same as before .. no change in sound .. Yamaha can ignore this issue all they want .. but this is a manufacturing defect in their so called Japanese engine that we have to live with .. I would suggest you to ignore it as we cannot do anything .. just try not to void your warranty so if anything happens in future .. Yamaha will fix their issues for free

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              Yes i agree with you. Today done with the final 6th free service this time asked them to fill YAMALUBE RACING GP Fully synthetic oil that costed 1,300 Rs this oil is used in the yamaha super bikes like R1 and MT series.
              Changed the chain sprocket with new one as the old one is producing irritating noises.
              Checked a couple of FZ bikes for the engine noise all most all bikes have this noise problem but sounding frequencies are varied from bike to bike even old FZ’s version 1 are having this noise [emoji15] yes there is no solution for this as this is a manufacturing defect of the engine head[emoji35]
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              • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post
                Yes i agree with you. Today done with the final 6th free service this time asked them to fill YAMALUBE RACING GP Fully synthetic oil that costed 1,300 Rs this oil is used in the yamaha super bikes like R1 and MT series.
                Changed the chain sprocket with new one as the old one is producing irritating noises.
                Checked a couple of FZ bikes for the engine noise all most all bikes have this noise problem but sounding frequencies are varied from bike to bike even old FZ’s version 1 are having this noise [emoji15] yes there is no solution for this as this is a manufacturing defect of the engine head[emoji35]
                what difference do you feel on YAMALUBE RACING GP Fully synthetic oil?
                also the noises you mention in the chain set .. can you describe them? as I think I also have some noise but mine has done only around 2500kms and it started after the first service

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                Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
                Spares costed 5000 INR. Rest I fixed it myself. Made a video of the DIY. Will publish on my channel shortly.
                sure .. share the video with us
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                • Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                  Originally posted by vanp View Post
                  what difference do you feel on YAMALUBE RACING GP Fully synthetic oil?
                  also the noises you mention in the chain set .. can you describe them? as I think I also have some noise but mine has done only around 2500kms and it started after the first service

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                  Today only finished the 6th free servicing its too early to comment on the oil will update once i cross atleast 500 kms

                  During the accelerating the chain is producing tak tak noise which is quite distrubing for me it has started from since 1k kms.
                  According to yamaha service center people thw chain life on the FZ is just 15 K kms. My p220 chain sprockets lasted me for about more than 20K kms. I maintained the chain well cleaning it at every 2K kms with the motul chain clean and lubricating at every 500-800 kms depending upon the usage but it gave up at 15K kms[emoji15] only Strange.
                  Do u use chain lube for the chain??
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                  • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                    Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post
                    Today only finished the 6th free servicing its too early to comment on the oil will update once i cross atleast 500 kms

                    During the accelerating the chain is producing tak tak noise which is quite distrubing for me it has started from since 1k kms.
                    According to yamaha service center people thw chain life on the FZ is just 15 K kms. My p220 chain sprockets lasted me for about more than 20K kms. I maintained the chain well cleaning it at every 2K kms with the motul chain clean and lubricating at every 500-800 kms depending upon the usage but it gave up at 15K kms[emoji15] only Strange.
                    Do u use chain lube for the chain??
                    let me know your review of the oil in future

                    i am not sure but yamaha's part quality is really pathetic.. i use motul chain lube to lube the chain at around 500-600 kms.. the noise i have is not tak tak.. it is like a continuous whining noise which starts at around 45kmph.. i feel that maybe the chain is touching the swingarm rubber.. but i have shown at the svc and they said that it is not the case.. but they were not able to solve the issue either.. it is actually our job to search and give them solutions.. at the end they just say we cannot hear any abnormal noise..

                    i owned the pulsar 180 for 8years.. met with 2 big accidents.. rode around 35k kms.. never lubed the chain.. only at servicing they used to put used engine oil on the chain.. never i felt any abnormal noises from the bike.. and never i had to change the chain
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                    • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                      Originally posted by vanp View Post
                      let me know your review of the oil in future

                      i am not sure but yamaha's part quality is really pathetic.. i use motul chain lube to lube the chain at around 500-600 kms.. the noise i have is not tak tak.. it is like a continuous whining noise which starts at around 45kmph.. i feel that maybe the chain is touching the swingarm rubber.. but i have shown at the svc and they said that it is not the case.. but they were not able to solve the issue either.. it is actually our job to search and give them solutions.. at the end they just say we cannot hear any abnormal noise..

                      i owned the pulsar 180 for 8years.. met with 2 big accidents.. rode around 35k kms.. never lubed the chain.. only at servicing they used to put used engine oil on the chain.. never i felt any abnormal noises from the bike.. and never i had to change the chain
                      Not only YAMAHA , but parts quality of most of the other manufacturers have also degraded ,it's sad after paying so much money on a premium 150cc people are experiencing these problems [emoji22] [emoji22]

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                      • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                        Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                        Not only YAMAHA , but parts quality of most of the other manufacturers have also degraded ,it's sad after paying so much money on a premium 150cc people are experiencing these problems [emoji22] [emoji22]
                        agreed.. better to buy a scooter or a splendor/passion than spending so much and then whining on the net
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                        • Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                          Originally posted by vanp View Post
                          let me know your review of the oil in future

                          i am not sure but yamaha's part quality is really pathetic.. i use motul chain lube to lube the chain at around 500-600 kms.. the noise i have is not tak tak.. it is like a continuous whining noise which starts at around 45kmph.. i feel that maybe the chain is touching the swingarm rubber.. but i have shown at the svc and they said that it is not the case.. but they were not able to solve the issue either.. it is actually our job to search and give them solutions.. at the end they just say we cannot hear any abnormal noise..

                          i owned the pulsar 180 for 8years.. met with 2 big accidents.. rode around 35k kms.. never lubed the chain.. only at servicing they used to put used engine oil on the chain.. never i felt any abnormal noises from the bike.. and never i had to change the chain
                          The oil is Costly than LIQUIMOLY and MOTUL.
                          I think its directly imported from japan because the contents written at the back of the can is japanese. Its reddish in colour.
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                          • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                            Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
                            I was returning home from a long extreme monsoon trip. Had ridden over 2300 kms in torrential rains and super bad roads covering Hyderbad - Goa - Amoli - Satara - Mahabaleshwar - Pune - Rajmachi - lonavala - Khandala. On the way back to hyderabad from Pune, after covering 150 kms, my drive chain snapped while I was cruising at 100 kmph. The chain immediately locked the rear wheel and I went 150 meters sliding (fishtailing the rear wheel). I could manage to contersteer the slide enough to not crash. the bike came to a halt after 150 meters of sliding.

                            The damages were catastrophic. I had to get the bike toed on two different trolleys (chota haathi type / Ashok Leyland).

                            PS - The chain had done 24000 kms before this incident. The chain was making horrible noises in the last 200 kms before the mishap.

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                            I started sliding before that board on the left.


                            Finally did DIY and fixed the broken machine. Everything is working fine now.


                            Replaced :
                            1. All bearings (2 wheel bearings + 1 Sprocket bearing)
                            2. Sprocket bearing oil seal
                            3. Axel Nut
                            4. Drive chain tensioner
                            5. Chain sprocket set
                            6. Swing Arm

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                            Parts Cost : 5000 INR approx


                            Last edited by bobisbacktorock; 09-09-2019, 10:36 PM.
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                            Ride to Dandeli
                            Kuntala waterfalls at its best
                            Father & Son ride to Nasik
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                            • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                              Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post

                              Finally did DIY and fixed the broken machine. Everything is working fine now.


                              Replaced :
                              1. All bearings (2 wheel bearings + 1 Sprocket bearing)
                              2. Sprocket bearing oil seal
                              3. Axel Nut
                              4. Drive chain tensioner
                              5. Chain sprocket set
                              6. Swing Arm

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                              Parts Cost : 5000 INR approx


                              The Journey before the accident :

                              PART - 1


                              PART - 2


                              PART - 3
                              Last edited by bobisbacktorock; 09-14-2019, 09:38 AM.
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                              Ride to Dandeli
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                              • Re: Yamaha FZ16 version 2.0

                                Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
                                I was returning home from a long extreme monsoon trip. Had ridden over 2300 kms in torrential rains and super bad roads covering Hyderbad - Goa - Amoli - Satara - Mahabaleshwar - Pune - Rajmachi - lonavala - Khandala. On the way back to hyderabad from Pune, after covering 150 kms, my drive chain snapped while I was cruising at 100 kmph. The chain immediately locked the rear wheel and I went 150 meters sliding (fishtailing the rear wheel). I could manage to contersteer the slide enough to not crash. the bike came to a halt after 150 meters of sliding.

                                The damages were catastrophic. I had to get the bike toed on two different trolleys (chota haathi type / Ashok Leyland).

                                PS - The chain had done 24000 kms before this incident. The chain was making horrible noises in the last 200 kms before the mishap.

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                                I started sliding before that board on the left.
                                Did you find out the reason for the chain snapping?
                                At 16k kms my chain started sounding odd. Kind of a muffled sound of some nuts clanking in a rotating metal container. Cleaning up the chain and lubing would give a few days of reduced sound but would be back to the clunky sound in 3-4 days. SVC told to replace the sprocket and chain set together. The teeth of the sprocket were not worn and could have lasted another 5-10k kms. But got them replaced and the chain movement was smooth again. The cause was 2-3 links of the chain had stiffened and were not bending properly when going over the front sprocket. I suspect that might have been the case with you as well. For me as i was doing short city rides the chain wasnt stressed to the extent of snapping.

                                Also a question to everyone - for long driving stretches across multiple days is it good to clean up the chain lets say every 1000 or so km during the ride itself. Especially if riding in dusty or rainy conditions?

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