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  • Abhinav Nayyar
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    Re: Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    Originally posted by Hunterkol View Post
    Check the rocker of the valves they make a sound like tappet but while riding and not at idle, if the kit kit sound is there which you may notice when on 3rd gear and at 40-60 kmph then the valve rockers are your problem, the spark plug cables if they are supplying the amps correctly to the spark plugs,
    Fuel filter and tubes, air intake valves and carb jet. Change the accelerator cable with that of 2017 NS.
    On the dyno the bike doesn't comes around street riding conditions so it will perform well. On street it is stop and go, down shift and up and down again.
    Always use semi synthetic blend on Bajaj 200 series, Indian engines are not made to handle full synthetic viscosity. Use 15w20 Motul, Shell, Repsol (if you can find).
    The acceleration is due to bad installation of clutch assembly. When you get the clutch assembly changed, ensure you change the entire assembly including the hub. Get a duke 200 2016 or RS clutch assembly installed with standard AS200 clutch cable, keep your hands off that clutch lever. Since you have recently have the clutch changed do check if you can to notice if there are any scratches on the pressure plates and are the clutch plates thick and have compression teeth visible. The springs play an important role and it is never assured that the ASC will do a great job in getting the valve clearance right.
    Get a good mechanic outside who works on duke, CBR, RS and other similar bikes and not just a casual nut tighter but a thorough engine overhauler.
    AS is an amazing bike but, it needs special care and attention when it comes to maintenance.
    Also, I did not read anything about wheel bearings and sprocket bearing being changed which you should get changed at 8 to 10k (depending on riding conditions).
    That's a lot of insightful advice, Hunterkol; thank you. The chain set got changed around 18k (which is when the sprocket bearings were looked at). The bike hasn't shown any instances of wobbling or losing line, but will get the wheel bearings looked at nevertheless.

    - Haven't heard the kit-kit sound, and have got the tappet adjusted, but neither the ASC mechanic nor the second one pointed it out. The thing to note here, the valves, both the times, were adjusted on a fairly warmed up engine and not a cold one. That might be one of the issues.

    - The clutch assembly I got from the ASC is that of Duke 200, so that's sorted. However, upon inspection, the new clutch cable turned out to be the issue. From the looks of it, it wasn't greased as properly as it should have been, and the wired passage in which it is inserted also had dirt. Got it cleaned, greased and checked for play. The acceleration now seems fine, but because of the power loss issue makes it difficult for me to be confident about it.

    - I'll switch to a semi-synthetic blend the next time, but I don't really see it to be a concern as many forum members use Motul FS 7100 20w50 in their Pulsar 200NS and 200AS.

    - The main problem I am facing right now is the power loss. If I had to be absolutely specific, it starts at the 4800-5200 rpm mark when the bike starts running out of breath post 71 kmph. From there, a little persistent throttling takes it up to 82kmph; at this point, the shuddering increases to quite an irksome level, and post that, it is the same story.

    Whenever the mechanics check for the same, they accelerate the dear life out of the bike as if they have a death wish. I have patiently as well as assertively tried explaining them that gear ratios have to be more everyday-like to detect the issue, but they are too thick-headed to understand it, saying "bilkul sahi chal rahi hai. Maine 110 kmph tak baghai koi missing nahi hai".

    Lastly, and this is to everyone in the thread, please do suggest a reliable mechanic in Noida/South Delhi areas which the bike can be taken to, because I am not at all eager to get the bike opened by every second mechanic who is less than proficient.

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  • Saurabh Tuli
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Vicky_New_Guy View Post
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    Nothing to worry. Its on every bike

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  • Vicky_New_Guy
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    Does anyone know what that lose cable is? Just noticed it today. Off late I've had a lot of cables come loose on my bike. Can someone please check if they have the same on their bike? What's it for?

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  • Hunterkol
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    Re: Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    Originally posted by Abhinav Nayyar View Post
    My motorcycling has hit a bit of a roadblock (hoping it's just that) due to this issue in my AS200 (2015).

    What happened -

    Routine service is due about a month ago. Motorcycle goes in to the ASC, gets serviced as usual and the PM Kit is replaced (spark plugs, air filter etc.). While returning back home, I sense a jerkiness in the way the bike is moving past the 60kmph (4000 rpm) mark. If I tried to push the bike beyond that, the jerkiness (lack of pickup and acceleration) increases even when the throttle opened is more than sufficient. The only difference this time in the service was the use of Motul 7100 10w50 instead of 20w50 owing to a lack of availability of the latter.

    A line to describe this 'jerkiness' - Very similar to how bike loses acceleration when about to hit 'Reserve'.

    Here's how things have panned out since then (in chronological order) -

    1) A week later (since Mon-Fri are working), went back to the ASC, and the mechanic says the new spark plugs are faulty and replaces them again.

    2) Jerkiness still present, so I take a leave on Tue and head back to the ASC. This time, I am told that the clutch set (clutch plates and pressure plates) needs replacing. I am not sure about it, but since the bike is touching 33k on the odo, I give the ASC the benefit of the doubt and go ahead with it. Slight improvement in acceleration from the standstill, but jerkiness still there. Gearshifts have been hard since then, and as per the ASC, it's just clutch cable adjustment.

    3) Head back to the ASC for the 3rd time (in 2 weeks), and I spoke to the Service GM this time, only to be reassured that it will be rectified. The plugs and air filter are checked, and the tappet is adjusted. We even put the bike on a dyno, and it goes easily to 108-110 kmph (as indicated), but the moment it comes on the road, it is the same story all over again.

    4) Being the hopeless optimist I am, I went to Karol Bagh yesterday, got the carb opened and cleaned, and put a K&N air filter (stock replacement type) hoping the issue might get addressed, but nothing doing.

    During all this, have got the AFR properly set to make sure it is not down to that. So essentially,

    - The spark plugs have been changed and checked
    - The air filter upgraded
    - The tappet adjusted
    - The carb cleaned
    - The AFR has been set
    - The clutch plates have been changed

    In spite of all this, the motorcycle is running sluggish, so much so I have to let the Splendors and Shines of the world pass as I would anyways get skinned by them.

    All my efforts to get it rectified have been in vain, and all this without being able to detect or pinpoint the source of the issue.

    Is it possible that there might be a leak in one of the valves which is causing all this, and is that even a thing in the NS and AS engines?

    I am worried my motorcycle has turned into a lemon, and might not get back to what it was.

    Any guidance by the forum members will be hugely appreciated.
    Check the rocker of the valves they make a sound like tappet but while riding and not at idle, if the kit kit sound is there which you may notice when on 3rd gear and at 40-60 kmph then the valve rockers are your problem, the spark plug cables if they are supplying the amps correctly to the spark plugs,
    Fuel filter and tubes, air intake valves and carb jet. Change the accelerator cable with that of 2017 NS.
    On the dyno the bike doesn't comes around street riding conditions so it will perform well. On street it is stop and go, down shift and up and down again.
    Always use semi synthetic blend on Bajaj 200 series, Indian engines are not made to handle full synthetic viscosity. Use 15w20 Motul, Shell, Repsol (if you can find).
    The acceleration is due to bad installation of clutch assembly. When you get the clutch assembly changed, ensure you change the entire assembly including the hub. Get a duke 200 2016 or RS clutch assembly installed with standard AS200 clutch cable, keep your hands off that clutch lever. Since you have recently have the clutch changed do check if you can to notice if there are any scratches on the pressure plates and are the clutch plates thick and have compression teeth visible. The springs play an important role and it is never assured that the ASC will do a great job in getting the valve clearance right.
    Get a good mechanic outside who works on duke, CBR, RS and other similar bikes and not just a casual nut tighter but a thorough engine overhauler.
    AS is an amazing bike but, it needs special care and attention when it comes to maintenance.
    Also, I did not read anything about wheel bearings and sprocket bearing being changed which you should get changed at 8 to 10k (depending on riding conditions).

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  • Abhinav Nayyar
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    Re: Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    Originally posted by Saurabh Tuli View Post
    Have you checked fuel pipe near tank. It can bend while fitting the fairing and can cause jerkiness. Check that
    I shall do that as soon as I can.

    Originally posted by zequirkynetizen View Post
    Does the bike's engine cut off and bike stops after the jerk? If yes, fuel pipe may be bent. If it doesn't stall, still get it checked.

    Change in engine oil can't be an issue in this case.
    The engine doesn't cut off; it just doesn't respond to the throttle. Will either ways get it checked and keep you guys posted.

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  • zequirkynetizen
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    Re: Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    Originally posted by Abhinav Nayyar View Post
    My motorcycling has hit a bit of a roadblock (hoping it's just that) due to this issue in my AS200 (2015).

    What happened -

    Routine service is due about a month ago. Motorcycle goes in to the ASC, gets serviced as usual and the PM Kit is replaced (spark plugs, air filter etc.). While returning back home, I sense a jerkiness in the way the bike is moving past the 60kmph (4000 rpm) mark. If I tried to push the bike beyond that, the jerkiness (lack of pickup and acceleration) increases even when the throttle opened is more than sufficient. The only difference this time in the service was the use of Motul 7100 10w50 instead of 20w50 owing to a lack of availability of the latter.

    A line to describe this 'jerkiness' - Very similar to how bike loses acceleration when about to hit 'Reserve'.

    Here's how things have panned out since then (in chronological order) -

    1) A week later (since Mon-Fri are working), went back to the ASC, and the mechanic says the new spark plugs are faulty and replaces them again.

    2) Jerkiness still present, so I take a leave on Tue and head back to the ASC. This time, I am told that the clutch set (clutch plates and pressure plates) needs replacing. I am not sure about it, but since the bike is touching 33k on the odo, I give the ASC the benefit of the doubt and go ahead with it. Slight improvement in acceleration from the standstill, but jerkiness still there. Gearshifts have been hard since then, and as per the ASC, it's just clutch cable adjustment.

    3) Head back to the ASC for the 3rd time (in 2 weeks), and I spoke to the Service GM this time, only to be reassured that it will be rectified. The plugs and air filter are checked, and the tappet is adjusted. We even put the bike on a dyno, and it goes easily to 108-110 kmph (as indicated), but the moment it comes on the road, it is the same story all over again.

    4) Being the hopeless optimist I am, I went to Karol Bagh yesterday, got the carb opened and cleaned, and put a K&N air filter (stock replacement type) hoping the issue might get addressed, but nothing doing.

    During all this, have got the AFR properly set to make sure it is not down to that. So essentially,

    - The spark plugs have been changed and checked
    - The air filter upgraded
    - The tappet adjusted
    - The carb cleaned
    - The AFR has been set
    - The clutch plates have been changed

    In spite of all this, the motorcycle is running sluggish, so much so I have to let the Splendors and Shines of the world pass as I would anyways get skinned by them.

    All my efforts to get it rectified have been in vain, and all this without being able to detect or pinpoint the source of the issue.

    Is it possible that there might be a leak in one of the valves which is causing all this, and is that even a thing in the NS and AS engines?

    I am worried my motorcycle has turned into a lemon, and might not get back to what it was.

    Any guidance by the forum members will be hugely appreciated.
    Does the bike's engine cut off and bike stops after the jerk? If yes, fuel pipe may be bent. If it doesn't stall, still get it checked.

    Change in engine oil can't be an issue in this case.

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  • Saurabh Tuli
    replied
    Re: Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    Originally posted by Abhinav Nayyar View Post
    My motorcycling has hit a bit of a roadblock (hoping it's just that) due to this issue in my AS200 (2015).

    What happened -

    Routine service is due about a month ago. Motorcycle goes in to the ASC, gets serviced as usual and the PM Kit is replaced (spark plugs, air filter etc.). While returning back home, I sense a jerkiness in the way the bike is moving past the 60kmph (4000 rpm) mark. If I tried to push the bike beyond that, the jerkiness (lack of pickup and acceleration) increases even when the throttle opened is more than sufficient. The only difference this time in the service was the use of Motul 7100 10w50 instead of 20w50 owing to a lack of availability of the latter.

    A line to describe this 'jerkiness' - Very similar to how bike loses acceleration when about to hit 'Reserve'.

    Here's how things have panned out since then (in chronological order) -

    1) A week later (since Mon-Fri are working), went back to the ASC, and the mechanic says the new spark plugs are faulty and replaces them again.

    2) Jerkiness still present, so I take a leave on Tue and head back to the ASC. This time, I am told that the clutch set (clutch plates and pressure plates) needs replacing. I am not sure about it, but since the bike is touching 33k on the odo, I give the ASC the benefit of the doubt and go ahead with it. Slight improvement in acceleration from the standstill, but jerkiness still there. Gearshifts have been hard since then, and as per the ASC, it's just clutch cable adjustment.

    3) Head back to the ASC for the 3rd time (in 2 weeks), and I spoke to the Service GM this time, only to be reassured that it will be rectified. The plugs and air filter are checked, and the tappet is adjusted. We even put the bike on a dyno, and it goes easily to 108-110 kmph (as indicated), but the moment it comes on the road, it is the same story all over again.

    4) Being the hopeless optimist I am, I went to Karol Bagh yesterday, got the carb opened and cleaned, and put a K&N air filter (stock replacement type) hoping the issue might get addressed, but nothing doing.

    During all this, have got the AFR properly set to make sure it is not down to that. So essentially,

    - The spark plugs have been changed and checked
    - The air filter upgraded
    - The tappet adjusted
    - The carb cleaned
    - The AFR has been set
    - The clutch plates have been changed

    In spite of all this, the motorcycle is running sluggish, so much so I have to let the Splendors and Shines of the world pass as I would anyways get skinned by them.

    All my efforts to get it rectified have been in vain, and all this without being able to detect or pinpoint the source of the issue.

    Is it possible that there might be a leak in one of the valves which is causing all this, and is that even a thing in the NS and AS engines?

    I am worried my motorcycle has turned into a lemon, and might not get back to what it was.

    Any guidance by the forum members will be hugely appreciated.
    Have you checked fuel pipe near tank. It can bend while fitting the fairing and can cause jerkiness. Check that

    Leave a comment:


  • Abhinav Nayyar
    replied
    Jerking, Pickup and Acceleration Issues in Pulsar AS200

    My motorcycling has hit a bit of a roadblock (hoping it's just that) due to this issue in my AS200 (2015).

    What happened -

    Routine service is due about a month ago. Motorcycle goes in to the ASC, gets serviced as usual and the PM Kit is replaced (spark plugs, air filter etc.). While returning back home, I sense a jerkiness in the way the bike is moving past the 60kmph (4000 rpm) mark. If I tried to push the bike beyond that, the jerkiness (lack of pickup and acceleration) increases even when the throttle opened is more than sufficient. The only difference this time in the service was the use of Motul 7100 10w50 instead of 20w50 owing to a lack of availability of the latter.

    A line to describe this 'jerkiness' - Very similar to how bike loses acceleration when about to hit 'Reserve'.

    Here's how things have panned out since then (in chronological order) -

    1) A week later (since Mon-Fri are working), went back to the ASC, and the mechanic says the new spark plugs are faulty and replaces them again.

    2) Jerkiness still present, so I take a leave on Tue and head back to the ASC. This time, I am told that the clutch set (clutch plates and pressure plates) needs replacing. I am not sure about it, but since the bike is touching 33k on the odo, I give the ASC the benefit of the doubt and go ahead with it. Slight improvement in acceleration from the standstill, but jerkiness still there. Gearshifts have been hard since then, and as per the ASC, it's just clutch cable adjustment.

    3) Head back to the ASC for the 3rd time (in 2 weeks), and I spoke to the Service GM this time, only to be reassured that it will be rectified. The plugs and air filter are checked, and the tappet is adjusted. We even put the bike on a dyno, and it goes easily to 108-110 kmph (as indicated), but the moment it comes on the road, it is the same story all over again.

    4) Being the hopeless optimist I am, I went to Karol Bagh yesterday, got the carb opened and cleaned, and put a K&N air filter (stock replacement type) hoping the issue might get addressed, but nothing doing.

    During all this, have got the AFR properly set to make sure it is not down to that. So essentially,

    - The spark plugs have been changed and checked
    - The air filter upgraded
    - The tappet adjusted
    - The carb cleaned
    - The AFR has been set
    - The clutch plates have been changed

    In spite of all this, the motorcycle is running sluggish, so much so I have to let the Splendors and Shines of the world pass as I would anyways get skinned by them.

    All my efforts to get it rectified have been in vain, and all this without being able to detect or pinpoint the source of the issue.

    Is it possible that there might be a leak in one of the valves which is causing all this, and is that even a thing in the NS and AS engines?

    I am worried my motorcycle has turned into a lemon, and might not get back to what it was.

    Any guidance by the forum members will be hugely appreciated.

    Leave a comment:


  • Vicky_New_Guy
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by randhish View Post
    Hello xbhpians!!
    Need some help, my pulsar as200 has done 9300 kms and I have given my bike for the 3rd free service today.
    Problem is my bike's rear disk pads are worn out so, they are needed to be replaced as told by the SVC guy.
    Rear disc is completely fine and not damaged in any ways ever.
    The SVC guy told the disc pads's life is more than 9300 kms but, because of the rear break lever is set high in the ns and as 200 bikes the break levers are always a little pressed by the riders and due to that the break pads gets damaged..
    So if the bike is under free service and warranty, shouldn't bajaj replace the break pads for free and more so because its a problem in the setting of the break levers from the company..?
    Brake pads are not covered under warranty. Adjust the lever as per your preference. Make sure the brake lever as clutch lever are at the she same angle

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  • Saurabh Tuli
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by randhish View Post
    Hello xbhpians!!
    Need some help, my pulsar as200 has done 9300 kms and I have given my bike for the 3rd free service today.
    Problem is my bike's rear disk pads are worn out so, they are needed to be replaced as told by the SVC guy.
    Rear disc is completely fine and not damaged in any ways ever.
    The SVC guy told the disc pads's life is more than 9300 kms but, because of the rear break lever is set high in the ns and as 200 bikes the break levers are always a little pressed by the riders and due to that the break pads gets damaged..
    So if the bike is under free service and warranty, shouldn't bajaj replace the break pads for free and more so because its a problem in the setting of the break levers from the company..?
    Disk pads will be not changed for free but you can adjust the rear brake lever.
    By adjusting this bolt

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  • randhish
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Hello xbhpians!!
    Need some help, my pulsar as200 has done 9300 kms and I have given my bike for the 3rd free service today.
    Problem is my bike's rear disk pads are worn out so, they are needed to be replaced as told by the SVC guy.
    Rear disc is completely fine and not damaged in any ways ever.
    The SVC guy told the disc pads's life is more than 9300 kms but, because of the rear break lever is set high in the ns and as 200 bikes the break levers are always a little pressed by the riders and due to that the break pads gets damaged..
    So if the bike is under free service and warranty, shouldn't bajaj replace the break pads for free and more so because its a problem in the setting of the break levers from the company..?

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  • zequirkynetizen
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by Anubhav M View Post
    Had a similar problem last year but for me it was due to severly adulterated fuel problem. The fuel station was mixing kerosene for a month because I refuelled multiple times from there and the issue persisted. One fine day i drained the fuel tank dry and poured in petrol from different station. The problem never returend. Other problem could be engine overheating but I suppose engine temperature light on console should light up for that. Third possibility is the carb or maybe vaccum in fuel tank due to blocked air vent in the fuel cap.
    Try opening the fuel cap once if the bike shuts off again
    Apparently fuel pipe was bent.

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  • Anubhav M
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by zequirkynetizen View Post
    Hi guys,

    So I've been facing this new issue since yesterday. It hasn't happened anytime before. The bike's 1.5 years old with clocking almost 20k on the odo.

    The issue - while riding, suddenly the bike starts jerking (as if running out of fuel) and then with few jerks it comes to a halt, engine cuts off and refuses to start. I've enough fuel in bike. More than half tank. I try for a while, it doesn't start. I try again after like 5 minutes, it starts. It may not be a battery issue as all lights, horn, display are working perfectly. This has happened twice in 1 ride yesterday night from Thane to Belapur and once today morning.

    One more thing I'd like to share (not sure if it's related) is that I've changed the indicators yesterday, using custom indicators now. And added hazard flasher. Had to remove fairings to remove front indicators. The flasher is added under rear seat. Could this be the problem somehow? Or could it be overheating? Carb issue perhaps? I've no clue. Today being Friday, everywhere everything is closed. So I'm at a loss here for now.

    Anyone has any idea?
    Had a similar problem last year but for me it was due to severly adulterated fuel problem. The fuel station was mixing kerosene for a month because I refuelled multiple times from there and the issue persisted. One fine day i drained the fuel tank dry and poured in petrol from different station. The problem never returend. Other problem could be engine overheating but I suppose engine temperature light on console should light up for that. Third possibility is the carb or maybe vaccum in fuel tank due to blocked air vent in the fuel cap.
    Try opening the fuel cap once if the bike shuts off again
    Last edited by Anubhav M; 06-02-2017, 03:25 PM.

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  • zequirkynetizen
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    Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Hi guys,

    So I've been facing this new issue since yesterday. It hasn't happened anytime before. The bike's 1.5 years old with clocking almost 20k on the odo.

    The issue - while riding, suddenly the bike starts jerking (as if running out of fuel) and then with few jerks it comes to a halt, engine cuts off and refuses to start. I've enough fuel in bike. More than half tank. I try for a while, it doesn't start. I try again after like 5 minutes, it starts. It may not be a battery issue as all lights, horn, display are working perfectly. This has happened twice in 1 ride yesterday night from Thane to Belapur and once today morning.

    One more thing I'd like to share (not sure if it's related) is that I've changed the indicators yesterday, using custom indicators now. And added hazard flasher. Had to remove fairings to remove front indicators. The flasher is added under rear seat. Could this be the problem somehow? Or could it be overheating? Carb issue perhaps? I've no clue. Today being Friday, everywhere everything is closed. So I'm at a loss here for now.

    Anyone has any idea?

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