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  • Royal Enfield Himalayan- Initial run in.

    After many years of riding many kinds of bikes, I finally bought a Himalayan and that was delivered on the 14th.
    From my experience I wanted to write about a few basic things a new Himalayan owner should know- some stuff i could not find on the net when I picked up my bike.

    1. Tire Pressure
    Roads, and hard ground
    SOLO- 25F 32R
    PILLION- 27F 34 R
    Sand and very soft mud- this is very subjective and best learnt with a lot of riding experience.
    20-22F and 26-28R
    Remember that bikers you see on trails in africa or the US or Europe, are often ridng with slightly low air pressure but with 4mm thick butyl tubes, which enhance the integrity of the tires and make sure that the side walls act as cushions to prevent rim damage.

    2. Running in- very important
    The idea behind running in is to allow the piston and the cylinder liner to get mated and the pitons rings to get pushed back and out and allow them to be 'bedded' properly.
    RE recommends a top speed of 60Kmph, which runs the engine at about 3000RPM. Using this as a benchmark, the idea will be as follows-
    Start the engine before you wear your helmet and gloves so that it has time to start circulating the oil that would be cold and pooled at the bottom of the crankcase.
    Change gears between 2200-3000rpm and keep the bike moving.... while lowering gears every time you have a drop in momentum, or you feel the gradient has changed.
    When in 5th gear, you can maintain 3000rpm, but keep varying the throttle position, and load on the engine, say by cutting the throttle to zero while coming down a bridge
    Keep varying the gears and speeds while avoiding static throttle- so what would be an ideal run? If you know Mumbai city- a weekday ride from Thane to VT- would give you decent straights and a dozen flyovers and a lot of miserable bumper-to-bumper traffic so that in a distance of 60-odd Km you could not hold a steady throttle for too long, and mess up you liner.
    Riding from Pune to Lonavala or Mumbai to Dhule is NOT the right way to do this- flat roads and hardly any variation in the throttle position.
    This messing up happens when some larger metal particle gets caught in the cylinder space and cannot get dislodged- and causes a groove in the liner. The recommended change of oils, I have asked for one additional- and you should try this- take a fine muslin cloth and drain that oil at 200Km, and if possible spin a magnet in it for a few mins, and you will be surprised at the kind of fine metallic dust you will see. And if you dont, you can only thank yourself for checking. Total cost will be about 800-900 bucks, which with the 2L Rupee bike, is nothing for 'engine insurance.'
    Now the oils- the idea of the running in is to allow the piston and the piston rings to be properly worn in. If you use synthetic oil or some really nice oil, you would be interfereing with this, and therefore its a request to stick to company oil, till atleast the 2000km run-in is complete.
    Riders using Google will find alternate methods of running-in like riding full tilt, and absolutely hammering the engine- like it happens in the case of race bikes. Please remember we are not having race bikes nor does RE have metallurgists who are designing these kinds of bikes.

    3. Oil Change + filter change at all three times [MENTION=52394]200[/MENTION]Km just to wash out any crap that may be there in the engine- this is the burrs that come off the gears and all other parts that mesh and which accumulate at the bottom due to gravity overnight.
    @500Km at first service [MENTION=52394]200[/MENTION]0Km at second service
    Use factory Liquid Gun till this 2K service. After this till 5000 you can use MOTUL that comes recommended by many across various forums, and then after 10,000 you can use fully synthetic, or whatever you want thereon.
    For some reason, the first oil change is 2.3L, whereas subsequent oil changes are 'about 2L' and this is something I will figure out soon or maybe i have read something wrong.
    While changing oil, always try and let the oil drain for a good 10-15 minutes after opening all drain holes and removing the air filter too. Just have patience and leave it alone.

    I will look at putting in my feedback on the ride experience and as and how the bike gets treated at Service time. I invite owners to send in their comments on what we new guys/gals can watch out for.
    #REH #Himalayan #RoyalEnfield #HimalayanSleet

    PS- repeat there are others who talk about nikasil-coated cylinders and advanced metallurgy- apparently none of this applies to RE as they advise the slow run-in in their owners manual. As always other view points are welcome.
    "When and Anvil be patient, when an Hammer, strike."
    2017 TBTS 350, 2011 Harley Davidson Fat Boy Lo
    -Class of '94, Texas A&M.

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    • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

      Great, detailed info. Much obliged for the share. Congrats on your latest acquisition and safe rides! [emoji1303][emoji1305]
      - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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      • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan- Initial run in.

        Originally posted by Kamlesh D View Post
        After many years of riding many kinds of bikes, I finally bought a Himalayan and that was delivered on the 14th.
        From my experience I wanted to write about a few basic things a new Himalayan owner should know- some stuff i could not find on the net when I picked up my bike.

        1. Tire Pressure
        Roads, and hard ground
        SOLO- 25F 32R
        PILLION- 27F 34 R
        Sand and very soft mud- this is very subjective and best learnt with a lot of riding experience.
        20-22F and 26-28R
        Remember that bikers you see on trails in africa or the US or Europe, are often ridng with slightly low air pressure but with 4mm thick butyl tubes, which enhance the integrity of the tires and make sure that the side walls act as cushions to prevent rim damage.

        2. Running in- very important
        The idea behind running in is to allow the piston and the cylinder liner to get mated and the pitons rings to get pushed back and out and allow them to be 'bedded' properly.
        RE recommends a top speed of 60Kmph, which runs the engine at about 3000RPM. Using this as a benchmark, the idea will be as follows-
        Start the engine before you wear your helmet and gloves so that it has time to start circulating the oil that would be cold and pooled at the bottom of the crankcase.
        Change gears between 2200-3000rpm and keep the bike moving.... while lowering gears every time you have a drop in momentum, or you feel the gradient has changed.
        When in 5th gear, you can maintain 3000rpm, but keep varying the throttle position, and load on the engine, say by cutting the throttle to zero while coming down a bridge
        Keep varying the gears and speeds while avoiding static throttle- so what would be an ideal run? If you know Mumbai city- a weekday ride from Thane to VT- would give you decent straights and a dozen flyovers and a lot of miserable bumper-to-bumper traffic so that in a distance of 60-odd Km you could not hold a steady throttle for too long, and mess up you liner.
        Riding from Pune to Lonavala or Mumbai to Dhule is NOT the right way to do this- flat roads and hardly any variation in the throttle position.
        This messing up happens when some larger metal particle gets caught in the cylinder space and cannot get dislodged- and causes a groove in the liner. The recommended change of oils, I have asked for one additional- and you should try this- take a fine muslin cloth and drain that oil at 200Km, and if possible spin a magnet in it for a few mins, and you will be surprised at the kind of fine metallic dust you will see. And if you dont, you can only thank yourself for checking. Total cost will be about 800-900 bucks, which with the 2L Rupee bike, is nothing for 'engine insurance.'
        Now the oils- the idea of the running in is to allow the piston and the piston rings to be properly worn in. If you use synthetic oil or some really nice oil, you would be interfereing with this, and therefore its a request to stick to company oil, till atleast the 2000km run-in is complete.
        Riders using Google will find alternate methods of running-in like riding full tilt, and absolutely hammering the engine- like it happens in the case of race bikes. Please remember we are not having race bikes nor does RE have metallurgists who are designing these kinds of bikes.

        3. Oil Change + filter change at all three times @200Km just to wash out any crap that may be there in the engine- this is the burrs that come off the gears and all other parts that mesh and which accumulate at the bottom due to gravity overnight.
        @500Km at first service @2000Km at second service
        Use factory Liquid Gun till this 2K service. After this till 5000 you can use MOTUL that comes recommended by many across various forums, and then after 10,000 you can use fully synthetic, or whatever you want thereon.
        For some reason, the first oil change is 2.3L, whereas subsequent oil changes are 'about 2L' and this is something I will figure out soon or maybe i have read something wrong.
        While changing oil, always try and let the oil drain for a good 10-15 minutes after opening all drain holes and removing the air filter too. Just have patience and leave it alone.

        I will look at putting in my feedback on the ride experience and as and how the bike gets treated at Service time. I invite owners to send in their comments on what we new guys/gals can watch out for.
        #REH #Himalayan #RoyalEnfield #HimalayanSleet

        PS- repeat there are others who talk about nikasil-coated cylinders and advanced metallurgy- apparently none of this applies to RE as they advise the slow run-in in their owners manual. As always other view points are welcome.
        Very useful input :-) Can you also let know what are the accessories available from RE and what should we pick up during delivery from RE itself? and what else we can get outside? am asking about the general ones, which are necessary and doesn't come as part of the bike. Like bumpers..

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        • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan- Initial run in.

          My REH has done 3K KMS. Surprisingly the Rear Brake Pads were worn out and had to be replaced... Also the Fuel Indicator is still dodgy... Looks like it has its mood of its own...

          Recent Ride to Shettihalli church...
          Attached Files

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          • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

            Something strange happened with me or I must say something usual happened with me at the dealership. While booking I asked for a new motorcycle but to my surprise the motorcycle is a November 17 model. Also, it was ridden all the way from another dealership which is 50 km away. As the odometer cable is removed, the reading still is 1 km. The motorcycle is still packed and only the plastic over the seat has been removed. Also, it is in very good condition without any rust or so.

            Should I decline the motorcycle or go for it?

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            • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

              Originally posted by augustinepaul4u View Post
              Something strange happened with me or I must say something usual happened with me at the dealership. While booking I asked for a new motorcycle but to my surprise the motorcycle is a November 17 model. Also, it was ridden all the way from another dealership which is 50 km away. As the odometer cable is removed, the reading still is 1 km. The motorcycle is still packed and only the plastic over the seat has been removed. Also, it is in very good condition without any rust or so.

              Should I decline the motorcycle or go for it?
              Don't compromise. I understand that the wait too excruciating.

              Please insist on a 2018 Manufacture Date.

              Worst case scenario ask for a big discount on the Nov'17 model, if you are not too fussed...

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              • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                Originally posted by augustinepaul4u View Post
                Something strange happened with me or I must say something usual happened with me at the dealership. While booking I asked for a new motorcycle but to my surprise the motorcycle is a November 17 model. Also, it was ridden all the way from another dealership which is 50 km away. As the odometer cable is removed, the reading still is 1 km. The motorcycle is still packed and only the plastic over the seat has been removed. Also, it is in very good condition without any rust or so.

                Should I decline the motorcycle or go for it?
                Ask for a minimum 20000 discount on the 2017 model-i think they will give you upto 15000.
                Otherwise insist and get a 2018 model bike
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                Rajdoot Yamaha RD350-1990-2017
                Royal Enfield Bullet Std 1970 model-1991-1997
                Bajaj Pulsar P220EFI-2008-2011
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                • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                  Originally posted by augustinepaul4u View Post
                  Should I decline the motorcycle or go for it?
                  I hope you’ve been able to sort out the issue by now. Nevertheless, it must be said that the dealer must be taken to task for what they’ve done.
                  - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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                  • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                    Originally posted by rideon74 View Post
                    I hope you’ve been able to sort out the issue by now. Nevertheless, it must be said that the dealer must be taken to task for what they’ve done.
                    I was adamant about getting the January 2018 model but the dealer was unable to source the model from the entire Mumbai region. I requested them to cancel the booking and refund the entire amount as per the agreed terms and condition. Few minutes later, I got a call from the dealer that a Sleet edition is available and I can get it for no extra cost. This Sleet is a January 2018 VIN and was used as the display vehicle in the showroom. Now, again the confusion. Should i go for the display bike?
                    To be honest I am a bit tempted to take this deal as this bike was never ridden, kept inside the showroom the entire time.

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                    • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                      Originally posted by augustinepaul4u View Post
                      To be honest I am a bit tempted to take this deal as this bike was never ridden, kept inside the showroom the entire time.
                      Now THAT seems like a great change in your fortunes. Obviously, the display piece would not have been ridden. Once you ensure that part and since you have verified the VIN - It sure looks like a good deal to me.
                      - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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                      • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                        Originally posted by rideon74 View Post
                        Now THAT seems like a great change in your fortunes. Obviously, the display piece would not have been ridden. Once you ensure that part and since you have verified the VIN - It sure looks like a good deal to me.
                        I forgot to mention that Panniers wont be included in this deal. I will be getting the Handle bar and Crash guard. This might not be a great change in fortune but definitely a good change. :-)

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                        • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                          I didn’t think they would include the panniers too - that would be stretching it too far [emoji3] I suppose you should test drive the bike before committing to their offer.
                          - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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                          • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                            Originally posted by augustinepaul4u View Post
                            To be honest I am a bit tempted to take this deal as this bike was never ridden, kept inside the showroom the entire time.
                            Hey buddy, what’s news from your end? Anything finalised yet?
                            - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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                            • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                              Finally got my REH Thanks to all those who guided to raise a complaint, it really worked
                              Attached Files

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                              • Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

                                Originally posted by aarunpadmanabhan View Post
                                Finally got my REH Thanks to all those who guided to raise a complaint, it really worked
                                Wahaay! Congratulations! Quite a feeling it must be! Enjoy your days ahead & safe rides! [emoji1303]
                                - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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