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Thanks. I went through motul website and found the exact same thing you said. Sadly in my city, there's no Motul only dealership like in other cities so after asking at almost more than 15-20 shops, I couldn't find the 15w50 7100.

I am almost sure that 10w50 wont harm our RR310's engine as 10w will have just 5 units less viscosity than 15w and the only time the engine oil needs to behave as a 15w viscosity oil is at early morning starts and very cold environment temperatures (and we know how hot India is).

But I don't want TVS to get a chance of putting the blame on me if something goes wrong with the engine (very less likely). That is why I went for 300V 15w50 instead.

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Not recommenced if your bike is still in running-in or if it has not yet fully opened up. You can switch it after say your bike crosses 10K+ kms and after 3-4 services.

Reason 300v is a very thick ester based full synthetic oil, it does hold good grade at high temps, but is very restrictive for components and not free flowing on a new engine, it is also notoriously known for causing head gasket leaks and oil burning in combustion on KTM, Bajaj bikes. Not sure how it'll behave on TVS 310.

So better to break the bike fully before switching to it. Until then you can use the hybrid 5100 15W50 if you feel Motul 3000 is to basic of mineral oil.

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Break in period is over. I was not bothered about engine oil until and unless I found out that they are using mineral oil with change interval of 10,000 kms and top-up at 5000kms.

Do you think its good to munch that much kilometres in a mineral oil. I also understand the fact that now-a-days companies are designing engines to hold more oil than it actually needs so that the oil lasts longer and engine stays cooler, but my experience says that it wont be good to push upto 10K kms in a mineral oil. And sad reality is even SVC people are not agreeing on changing the oil as per my request. I mean they are not agreeing to change the existing oil with the one I will be providing. I am also looking forward to talk to TVS regarding this.

I haven't changed the oil yet, still on the mineral one. Since 300v is costly and I need 2 bottles, I have just bought one for now and will buy another one while changing the oil.

For now I am thinking to ride to more 1k-2k kms or more before thinking about changing the oil. And I have done about 1.5k Kms yet.

Also, it was a huge dissapointment to know TVS uses a cheap mineral oil and overcharge for it (atleast in my city's svc they overcharge by 400rs) while competitors like KTM and Bajaj Dominar uses fully synthetic oil from the beginning (Motul 7100 for ktms and Bajaj 10000 DTSI fully synthetic for Dominar).

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Looks like I thought TVS SVC was horrible only in Bangalore, but it's the same everywhere I guess after reading this what you mentioned.
This is the only sad part about this bike, the way TVS dealers are treating customers and their attitude for people paid close to 3L for their bike, and putting them in the same bucket of other TVS Star City, Apache, Jupiter vehicles.

I had to fight with them to give me a test ride after escalation to regional manager, they had told me that no test-rides without booking.

They should atleast let the owners decide what service they want to get done to their bikes and what oil customer wants to use and the change interval, they can't deny or stop if one wants to change the oil completely early at 4-5K kms as long its as per recommend grade 15W50. Using Motul 3000/3100 range after 4K kms is plain ridiculous, it'd have become black watery stuff post that many kms.

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300v is a waste of money imo, and it was developed for race use (so forget prolonged use in city conditions). don't go by the marketing gimmicks.
one of the best FS oils around is the motul 7100 and good value for your money. it can easily pull 5k ~7k km (10k km is a stretch, but if the sump capacity is 2L or more then 10k should be ok)
the motul 5100 semi synth is also a good choice, and you could change this say every 4k km.
on these modern engines, you can safely use fully syn oil from day or after your first service.. no issues. i've been running 7100 from day 1 on my ktm 200.

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I absolutely agree to what you are saying and even I feel like 300v is a bit overkill but one of my friend is using the 300v in his rr310 and the review is very good.

The only reason I didn't buy 7100 and went for 300v is because 7100 wasn'tt available in 15w50 in my city.

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I was lucky to get the test ride from showroom but that made making the decision even harder because the test bike was in worst condition, so much vibrations that it made my hands go numb in just 5 mins.

True that. They do allow you to change the oil at 2nd servicing @5000 kms but you have to put their engine oil which is motul 3000.

Being very honest, this oil stuff is actually ruining my experience with my bike. Everytime I feel a bit more vibes and unusual gear change stuff, my mind immediately yells that "You are on a mineral oil".

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Engine oil is an never ending topic. The best way is to stick to recommended oil. In case of RR they are using mineral oil which is very affordable. If u r too concerned about mineral oil , change oil at evey service , that is 5000kms ..that's more than enough. And never judge the oil by its colour.

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In this video svc has used motul 5100, 15w 50 semi synthetic oil in 1st servicing of RR

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I think he must have taken the oil with himself.

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Hello, I have been wondering about certain question that I feel owners could answer regarding weight and height practicality.

Today I got a test ride of the RR and I felt that despite the weight mentioned in the spec sheet it feels very very light which is very much unlike my experience with the Dominar and I was able to get 90% flatfoot on this bike. Now looking at the seat height spec-sheet wise there's not much difference between D400 and RR310's height but it felt quite a bit different while actually seated. Why is that?

Secondly, I used to ride the Dominar and I didn't particularly enjoy that experience because it felt heavy, cumbersome and was a pain to take out of parking(on uneven surfaces) due to the weight and my height 170cm (5.7ft) I felt like the Dominar is more suited to riders taller than me and while I haven't yet checked this particular aspect on the RR in an uneven spot it felt so much lighter despite just a 12kg difference in weight. So am I right in thinking RR will be easier to take out of a parking spot compared to the D400?

Third, how does the lack of a grab rail on the left side feel when moving the bike around manually? Do you do it by holding the left handle and tail body panel or do you grab the right rail regardless of which side you're standing on?

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RR 310 feels easier to move around compared to dominar when seated is because the tank is narrow at the region near the seat.
To man handle the bike use the right rail regardless of which side you are. If you have trouble reaching then grab the pillion footpegs.

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1st, Seat feels taller on Dominar due to the fact already mentioned that seats are much wider on Dominar so your thighs are placed wider making the legs shorter to reach the ground, RR310 has narrow seat width.

2nd, Dominar is a heavy bike. Period. It's more or less like moving around a CL350 or TB350 while standing still. Anything and everything else will be is easy to move around no comparison.

3rd, Lack of grab rail? Are you sure you saw the bike properly 360 degrees? There is a grab rail present on the right hand side,below the rear seat area. Just the like RC bikes. Maybe the bike saw had got it removed for style ​purpose, or the dealer had not installed it yet.

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You misread, I specifically said lack of grab rail on the left side.

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Yes my bad, I missed that.
There is small dip on both side below the tail section on both sides, that helps somewhat I guess to lift, pull and move the bike around.