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  • This has been said earlier, Bajaj is making money not by selling the bikes, but through spares. So unless somebody comes up with a better business model for Bajaj, this is not going to change.

    As for scenarios when the estimate is more than total price of the bike. The bike is considered as a total loss and the owner would get the insured amount and the bike would be sold of as scrap by the insurance company.
    Last edited by killer_instinct; 07-07-2011, 10:03 AM.
    sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.

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    • Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post
      This has been said earlier, Bajaj is making money not by selling the bikes, but through spares. So unless somebody comes up with a better business model for Bajaj, this is not going to change.

      As for scenarios when the estimate is more than total price of the bike. The bike is considered as a total loss and the owner would get the insured amount and the bike would be sold of as scrap by the insurance company.

      Absolutely correct and straight to the point! Good one, buddy!

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      • Exactly, I got a feeling this is why PBKs are built for, it's more of a autospare shop than a SVC. It started with the 220s and now for the Ninjas too...

        Originally posted by sukeshak View Post
        First of all, the initial estimate usually would be double the actuals since almost everything is put for change rather than repair. If small paint scratch is there on tank, they will put for tank change etc...

        Secondly, during every visit to service center I have seen a new accident vehicle there... so i'm guessing Bajaj is making good profit through spares/repair than the vehicle itself.

        Finally if the repair cost is near (some % is there) the total cost of the bike, you pay a smaller (not sure how much) amount and you get a new bike through insurance...

        As far as I know atleast 2 bike owners got this option and I heard one of them is still on bed with some serious injury.

        But in general, initial estimate for Ninja accident would be almost certainly above 1L
        Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post
        This has been said earlier, Bajaj is making money not by selling the bikes, but through spares. So unless somebody comes up with a better business model for Bajaj, this is not going to change.

        As for scenarios when the estimate is more than total price of the bike. The bike is considered as a total loss and the owner would get the insured amount and the bike would be sold of as scrap by the insurance company.
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        • Originally posted by sukeshak View Post
          First of all, the initial estimate usually would be double the actuals since almost everything is put for change rather than repair. If small paint scratch is there on tank, they will put for tank change etc...
          Absolutely correct. For any accident claim, the service centre (not only bajaj) would put in all the parts they feel are affected by the accident because if they do not put it in the initial claim and later on find out that it needs replacement, won't get compensated. Another reason for this is because the initial claim has no real value. Only the insurance surveyor would survey damage and then approve / disapprove certain items. Then the cost of repairs is finally worked out.

          Originally posted by sukeshak View Post
          Finally if the repair cost is near (some % is there) the total cost of the bike, you pay a smaller (not sure how much) amount and you get a new bike through insurance...
          Again correct. If the repairs cost is more than 90% of IDV of your bike, it will be treated as total loss and you would be paid IDV (less standard deductibles). So don't worry about initial estimate of 4.5 lakhs.

          Originally posted by sukeshak View Post
          But in general, initial estimate for Ninja accident would be almost certainly above 1L
          If we assume that this bike is about 3 times costlier than any other normal bike, we should be mentally prepared to pay out at least 3 times the cost of spares of other normal bikes. Once we factor in this aspect, then the spares cost dosen't seem much higher.

          Lastly, sum of all spares is always higher than the cost of vehicle. Otherwise, people would have bought spares and assembled vehicles. You are buying single items and hence the higher cost.

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          • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post



            If we assume that this bike is about 3 times costlier than any other normal bike, we should be mentally prepared to pay out at least 3 times the cost of spares of other normal bikes. Once we factor in this aspect, then the spares cost dosen't seem much higher.

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            I agree with this philosophy of yours. If the product itself is expensive, the cost of spare parts have to be on a higher side.
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            • Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
              Absolutely correct and straight to the point! Good one, buddy!
              Thanks dude
              sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.

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              • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                If we assume that this bike is about 3 times costlier than any other normal bike, we should be mentally prepared to pay out at least 3 times the cost of spares of other normal bikes. Once we factor in this aspect, then the spares cost dosen't seem much higher.

                Lastly, sum of all spares is always higher than the cost of vehicle. Otherwise, people would have bought spares and assembled vehicles. You are buying single items and hence the higher cost.

                Disclaimer : I do not work either for Bajaj or any probiking service centre.
                To the point, super good................ Cannot agree more........

                And the comparo thing, well, I just wanted to say that we have a premium bike, so premium spares and premium service (So faar........). So the cost of everything is justified and the topic ends here......... I hope..........

                P.S.- It's just been too much of GK (regarding the cost of the spares) for me............ I'd rather say, let's plan an all India Ninja owners meet........... Unrealistic, but could be realistic too.
                Biking knows no language but Passion..............................
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                • Originally posted by xxbomb View Post
                  If thats not a comparo, i dont know what is!!.... & i wonder what the baby ceeber had anything to do with the discussion ( prices, spares, insurance) that was being discussed here.

                  & the second part, Speaks volumes in itself..lol!

                  Professor biker,you being 6.3' why did u not get a RE which is big, does'nt feel cramped and sounds orgasmic..(well...maybe not ). LoL
                  The RE never sounded orgasmic to me, never will. It's rather a turn off.............
                  Biking knows no language but Passion..............................
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                  • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                    If we assume that this bike is about 3 times costlier than any other normal bike, we should be mentally prepared to pay out at least 3 times the cost of spares of other normal bikes. Once we factor in this aspect, then the spares cost dosen't seem much higher.
                    Correct. We should pay atleast 3 times for the spares. Even if its 5 times thats ok for a bike like ninja. But the problem is spares are morethan 10 times costlier. I think if we calculate the prices of all parts it will be over 6 lacs
                    Last edited by maheshkmr; 07-08-2011, 12:39 AM. Reason: typo error

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                    • HEY GUYS I GOT THE NINJA 250R ( BLACK ) say 6hrs ago!

                      And I am trying to get used to the new riding posture and I just love the noise of the engine IZZing sound is pretty impressive. Got the seat cowl it does add some extra bit of looks to the bike ( does make it more eye catchy ) and it sure is better in real when compared to all those pics that I saw online

                      And hope to share more and more experience riding this machine. And this is my 2nd ride. My 1st was an Yamaha FZ-S ( Silver-Red ) 2009.
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                      • Originally posted by Helios View Post
                        HEY GUYS I GOT THE NINJA 250R ( BLACK ) say 6hrs ago!

                        And I am trying to get used to the new riding posture and I just love the noise of the engine IZZing sound is pretty impressive. Got the seat cowl it does add some extra bit of looks to the bike ( does make it more eye catchy ) and it sure is better in real when compared to all those pics that I saw online

                        And hope to share more and more experience riding this machine. And this is my 2nd ride. My 1st was an Yamaha FZ-S ( Silver-Red ) 2009.

                        Congrats mate............. Have fun and ride safe...... She surely does sound orgasmic............ Feels even better.........

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                        • ^^ Congrats.. ride safe!!


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                          • Originally posted by Professor Biker..... View Post
                            To the point, super good................ Cannot agree more........

                            And the comparo thing, well, I just wanted to say that we have a premium bike, so premium spares and premium service (So faar........). So the cost of everything is justified and the topic ends here......... I hope..........

                            P.S.- It's just been too much of GK (regarding the cost of the spares) for me............ I'd rather say, let's plan an all India Ninja owners meet........... Unrealistic, but could be realistic too.
                            Ya this all india ninja meet sounds cool.... if even 75% of the guys turn up it shuld be a good number of riders. & the professor shall lead their pupil

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                            • Originally posted by ninjaboy View Post
                              Ya this all india ninja meet sounds cool.... if even 75% of the guys turn up it shuld be a good number of riders. & the professor shall lead their pupil
                              I guess Sunny (Please have a look at this since you also own one) could do something about the all India xBhp Ninja owners meet......... Please, hear me out.........
                              Biking knows no language but Passion..............................
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                              • Originally posted by Helios View Post
                                HEY GUYS I GOT THE NINJA 250R ( BLACK ) say 6hrs ago!

                                And I am trying to get used to the new riding posture and I just love the noise of the engine IZZing sound is pretty impressive. Got the seat cowl it does add some extra bit of looks to the bike ( does make it more eye catchy ) and it sure is better in real when compared to all those pics that I saw online

                                And hope to share more and more experience riding this machine. And this is my 2nd ride. My 1st was an Yamaha FZ-S ( Silver-Red ) 2009.
                                Congrats mate! You can now change your tagline from
                                Baby Kwacker Coming soOn to something else

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