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I shouldn't be replying to a rant, but since I have done some rides with the RD gang here in Bangalore, I definitely know that the Ninja is not a toy.Originally posted by xxbomb View Post+1.
Just a day back i saw a RD 350( LT) next to a Ninja 250r, and was surprised how much of a toy the Ninja looked like.
. . . . & that RD was more than a decade old.
The RDs are vintage but when you talk about latest technology, the Ninja 250R has enough juice to out run a stock RD and I've seen that myself.
But that does not mean that we guys lack respect for either of the bikes.sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.
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granted the N250R has a lot of plastic... (which is not a bad thing / and the quality is top-notch)
if that's what you meant when you said... "it "looked" like a toy."
but looks can be deceptive.
P.S: on any other thread i'd side with the RD but not on this one.
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Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View PostAfter buying both, the 250R and 250R, it was pretty easy for me to compare both and then opine on this Kawasaki Vs Honda argument.
For starters, the sheer presence of the Ninja is enough to take away all the glory of the Honda. One ride on the Ninja spells doom for the CBR. Needless to say, even subconsciously, I reach out for the keys of the Ninja.
To aap yaha paae jaa rahe ho....!
Great..how is your R doing..?
Got over with running in...A bad question..but still..?
How many days did you wait for your Ninja after booking..?
A sub dealer here near my house quotes only 7 days waiting for Ninja...
Somehow or the other a well maintained, well ridden RD would still be quicker than an equally well ridden Ninja....!!!Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post......
The RDs are vintage but when you talk about latest technology, the Ninja 250R has enough juice to out run a stock RD and I've seen that myself.
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/* personal perception over....2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
2006 - Eterno (sold)
2008 - Dio (Owned)
2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi
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Frankly you may be true... my perception came after riding with a bunch of RDs some time back. The RD has great power at the low RPMs, however once the Ninja crosses the 8k mark on the ODO there is no stopping it especially due to the fact that it revs all the way up to 13500. Which means less upshifts to reach a certain speed.Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View PostSomehow or the other a well maintained, well ridden RD would still be quicker than an equally well ridden Ninja....!!!
/* personal perception over....
In fact Killer was discussing the same on FB some months back and I agreed to bring my Ninja for a friendly comparo, my only condition being that it should be a stock RD, no bells and whistles. But the match-up never materialized for some reasons, one being that the concept of a stock RD does not exist anymore.sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.
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Carry along a couple of bottles of injector cleaner and octane booster along. This should keep the bike running fine on whatever fuel you might encounter during your trip. Dosage usually is around less than 400ml for 60 litres, so you calculate how many bottles you need to carry along.Originally posted by GuRpReEt SiNgH View PostThanks mate!
All set for Spiti now
And for some reason the octane rating question keeps cropping up. Just go to a decently-sized HP pump and they'll show you a sheet with the numbers. Regular fuel is 91 RON with the BS4 standards. Branded fuels have additives that are supposed to clean your engine - there is NOTHING mentioned about octane rating. That means that they are also 91RON.
Shell has a premium fuel that is rated at 93RON. I forget its name 'Super Premium' or some such. The attendants are well informed and will give you the right fuel if you ask for 93 octane fuel.
BPCL sells Speed 97 in metros with an octane rating of, like the name suggests, 97 RON.
I just KNOW that ten pages down the line in this thread someone will start up the debate all over again. But anyway.
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^^ Very clear and informative! I'll now consciously go for shell super and see if bike's behaviour changes even the slightest!
I don't want to extend the heated debate regarding the N250R V CBR250R but IMHO there is NO comparision between them both in India! Why? Here are the 2 simple reasons:
One is price and both are priced very differently and hence aimed at different sections of buyers. (the scenario is different elsewhere in the world as the cbr250r costs pretty much the same - hence the issues arising in India clearly indicates that quality HAS been compromised- for further confirmation just look at the cbr250r ownership thread)
Two is the performance. One cannot compare a single cylinder V Twin cylinder. Both the bikes have different characteristics and are designed for different purposes. Ninja is a rev-happy, fuel munching, highway dominator and out and out track oriented (for a 250cc) bike whereas the CBR is more of a city/commuter, less aggressive revving, fuel efficient tourer with some track capabilities. (this is my personal opinion after riding the indian cbr)
Both are different bikes and let them be different! Everyone knows which bike has better quality/finish but on the other hand everyone should also realise which bike is more practical (on many facets not just the price)Last edited by therealabhinav; 07-11-2011, 09:19 PM.
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Exactly the same thing that I said sometime ago. So I second to this, and the price not justified, could be a little less I agree but not very less..........Originally posted by harikeshpk View Postits just our Indian mindset ( including me sort of ) that we want a world class product enjoy it and then we want world class spares at Indian prices. i may be wrong here but maintaining a sup bike is no pocket friendly game and it will never be. why i feel ...a week back i had a real close look at our so called competitor bike honda cbr 250. i was surprised to see how cheap read indianish the body especially the metal frame / screws /weld etc of the bike looked. i think most of the parts for this bike are made locally in India. i am not saying that our Indian manufacturing is bad. just that honda ensured that they got it made cheap ( read lesser quality when compared to CBR sold in US other parts of the world at a higher price). so CBR is priced appropriately in india with cheap spares too. i can assure you that the CBR 250 sold in the US is of much superior quality than the Indian made CBR and priced higher.
i can ask ninja owners to check out CBR 250 real close and experience the real difference in quality compared to ninja250.
bottom line is there can be some reduction in spare cost but not much. cheap means almost always quality is compromised.Biking knows no language but Passion..............................
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Totally agree with you hands down......Originally posted by trustvishwas View PostDid someone tell Honda to hurry and get those CBR out of their doors? What about paint work coming off while washing, what about complete engine replacement of Aargee's CBR? Does this speak highly about CBR quality?
BTW, don't you think that this is Ninja 250R ownership thread? If a ninja owner wishes to compare his bike with others, it is another issue. Since you own a CBR, you can put up your grievances about ninja in CBR ownwership thread or do you want all ninja owners to spam about how a ninja is superior in CBR ownership thread?
Why is that I hear comparison between CBR and Ninja only in CBR ownership forum and never in Ninja ownership forum? Just because each ninja owner knows that he has a much superior product.
If you want to contribute, please do so without ridiculing others.
Sorry Sunnyside_up- but that surely is the worst question you'll ever hear.........Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View PostI wonder how many CBR250 owners would say the same if the extra money was not an issue.

This sums up everything between the N250R & the C250R I guess..........Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View PostAfter buying both, the 250R and 250R, it was pretty easy for me to compare both and then opine on this Kawasaki Vs Honda argument.
For starters, the sheer presence of the Ninja is enough to take away all the glory of the Honda. One ride on the Ninja spells doom for the CBR. Needless to say, even subconsciously, I reach out for the keys of the Ninja.
Okay, now two things that I have in mind.....
1) The baby screams at 9000rpm, sounds totally awesome and orgasmic or whatever, it's an understatement, but I though it would get louder after that, but she kinda sobers down, now why does that happen? Anyone?
2) The IRC's aren't as bad as a couple of Ninja owners warned me about. I've been doing rain rides, or good tarmac for the last 4 weeks and didn't experience anything nerve wracking (guess that's correct). In fact, have been telling people thy're bad after listening to the feedback from people, but I feel, they grip the road really well, and I've used the Sport Demon's on my 09 Fazer before and they felt nerve wracking in the rains for sure, but not these IRC's for sure. Not so far........
Owners and Techies- please throw some light..........
Thanks all.
Krish.....Biking knows no language but Passion..............................
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The comments are all the more hilarious and I thought the writer was a loner.Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostOMG, frigging hilarious
Buying Best Bike to Attract Girls in College - Ninja 250R or Honda CBR250R
A girl actually took time to write that says she prefers the Santro with an AC. Holy cow of Varanasi!
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This is what i wanted to express, but i guess you expressed it better.Originally posted by trustvishwas View PostIf you want to contribute, please do so without ridiculing others.
I'm do know that cbr 250r has its share of issues, but i dont think its fare to compare a decade old proven 250(ninja) to the new kid on the block(cbr250). Hope this puts across what i had on mind more diplomatically..
I hope to meet the genius who wrote that piece. it'd be a awesomesause moment.Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostOMG, frigging hilarious
Buying Best Bike to Attract Girls in College - Ninja 250R or Honda CBR250RLast edited by xxbomb; 07-11-2011, 11:04 PM.sigpic
One Heart -- CBR 250R
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I don't find much difference with the fuel as far as power is concerned; it's just that at low revs the bike feels much smoother and stutters less under load or large throttle openings. This I found on the Karizma and R15 as well.Originally posted by therealabhinav View Post^^ Very clear and informative! I'll now consciously go for shell super and see if bike's behaviour changes even the slightest!
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