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**kiran_borra** · 07-03-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

Note: I recently had an accident, the front tyre gave way on a hairpin bend in the ghats and resulted in a tank slapper on the left side. Damage to side fairing(replaced), indicator gone(replaced) and gear lever was also replaced.

Thanks
Akshay

Just back from a very heavy rain ride...
It's just due to the water droplets evaporating on the radiator...
You will see this only when you stop mid-way on a rain ride else its not visible at all

Some more eye candy from my end to all the Ninja lovers

**TenHut** · 07-03-2011, 06:54 PM

Particulate matter due to pollution floating about in the city's air high above in the stratosphere gets dissolved in the rain droplets as they are first formed.
Now these rain droplets when falling towards earth get heated up due to the friction with other particulate matter floating around. This results in the droplet heating up which gives the dissolved particulate matter IN the droplet enough kinectic energy to kick start a toxic but otherwise harmless chemical reaction between the petrol and the diesel particles. The droplet will soon explode if the heating continues but unfortunately the rain droplet achieves its terminal velocity and ceases to heat up anymore. The result is that the drop of water is now highly unstable and can be exploding any given moment. Its a ticking time bomb waiting to fall on the most expensive bikes down on earth.
When you are standing at the signal there usually is a car somewhere around you thats running a radio. These radio waves are from the same stratosphere where our rain droplet became toxic and bio-hazardous. So the radio waves now penetrate through this water droplet while in the air and infuse more potential energy into it. This results in the rain droplets gaining in size.It is also here that the radio waves, through their sun rays like heating effect, make the inside of the water droplet conducive for life and micro-organisms start breeding on the petrol-diesel molecules.
When this dear rain droplet nears the earths surface the micro-organisms in it see a green or a black ninja and say..'aahhh a 3 lac bike..that bike heats up for sure' and steer the droplet for YOUR bike straight away. On collision of this droplet with the heated radiator of the bike, this droplet then explodes.BOOM
Thankfully the explosion isnt as bad as we first set out thinking it would be and our whole theory is rendered obsolete. Its merely evaporation

**killer_instinct** · 07-03-2011, 08:04 PM

^^Dude.. how do you get time to think up all these stories...

Goto Hollywood and cook up some sci fi movies for us.

**toolkit** · 07-03-2011, 08:57 PM

thanks a lot guys. After all your replies, and the science fiction writing provided by tenhut, I am more confident to go out on a ride. And for the sake of science, this particular phenomenon would be vaporization as in boiling, not evaporation.

Very good photography- Kiran

**TenHut** · 07-03-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

thanks a lot guys. After all your replies, and the science fiction writing provided by tenhut, I am more confident to go out on a ride. And for the sake of science, this particular phenomenon would be vaporization as in boiling, not evaporation.
Very good photography- Kiran

I stand corrected...vaporisation it is

**kariznin** · 07-03-2011, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Particulate matter due to pollution floating about in the city's air high above in the stratosphere gets dissolved in the rain droplets as they are first formed.
Now these rain droplets when falling towards earth get heated up due to the friction with other particulate matter floating around. This results in the droplet heating up which gives the dissolved particulate matter IN the droplet enough kinectic energy to kick start a toxic but otherwise harmless chemical reaction between the petrol and the diesel particles. The droplet will soon explode if the heating continues but unfortunately the rain droplet achieves its terminal velocity and ceases to heat up anymore. The result is that the drop of water is now highly unstable and can be exploding any given moment. Its a ticking time bomb waiting to fall on the most expensive bikes down on earth.
When you are standing at the signal there usually is a car somewhere around you thats running a radio. These radio waves are from the same stratosphere where our rain droplet became toxic and bio-hazardous. So the radio waves now penetrate through this water droplet while in the air and infuse more potential energy into it. This results in the rain droplets gaining in size.It is also here that the radio waves, through their sun rays like heating effect, make the inside of the water droplet conducive for life and micro-organisms start breeding on the petrol-diesel molecules.
When this dear rain droplet nears the earths surface the micro-organisms in it see a green or a black ninja and say..'aahhh a 3 lac bike..that bike heats up for sure' and steer the droplet for YOUR bike straight away. On collision of this droplet with the heated radiator of the bike, this droplet then explodes.BOOM
Thankfully the explosion isnt as bad as we first set out thinking it would be and our whole theory is rendered obsolete. Its merely evaporation

Brilliant visualization Tenhut, loved that ahhh... 3lac bike part.. green Ninja - black Ninja

Super Like to that.

@Kirran : Great clicks buddy

**toolkit** · 07-03-2011, 09:32 PM

By the way, i would just like to caution some of the newer rider's of the ninja about the behaviour of the bike in sharp turns (something I learnt from my recent accident). All those who have graduated from the lighter Indian bikes (150's ..180's etc) please note-

Please note what i mention below is relative to my experience on my Pulsar 180-

The front end of the bike offers somewhat less feedback to the rider as to how much weight there is on the front wheel. This becomes especially important when you riding enthusiastically on a ghat section of the road (climbing) and if the road changes camber angle in a U turn. In my case all the above mentioned conditions were satisfied and the front end just gave way and obviously rest is history.

This is just my opinion and open to debate.

Akshay

**jd666** · 07-04-2011, 08:57 AM

I read a couple of pages back with people having issues with the rear brake. The brake pedal does not respond when you press it, and then you gotta release, and pump again to get some braking going.

According to a friend, its possibly due to keeping your foot resting on the brake lever. Not sure if this is the issue observed, but do ride consciously and do report back!

**The Celebrity** · 07-04-2011, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Thankfully the explosion isnt as bad as we first set out thinking it would be and our whole theory is rendered obsolete. Its merely evaporation

Wow! TH, when i told him the experts will reply better to his query, i dont think even in the wildest of his thoughts would he have thought of your explanation...

nice way of explaining 'vaporization'...

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

^^Dude.. how do you get time to think up all these stories...

Goto Hollywood and cook up some sci fi movies for us.

i back that...

**n_aditya** · 07-04-2011, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike.

Its due to water being splashed around on the header pipes. Nothing to worry.

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

There is a lot of muck covering my radiator. never bothered with cleaning it as the engine temperatures never went that high.

Use a soft bristled toothbrush to clean the radiator. Dip the brush in a can of water (you can use a drop or two of shampoo if needed) and use the vertical motion to clean the muck off the radiator. No horizontal movements as it can damage the fins and block air flow.

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Particulate matter due to pollution floating about in the city's air high above in the stratosphere gets dissolved in the rain droplets as they are first formed.
Now these rain droplets when falling towards earth get heated up due to the friction with other particulate matter floating around. This results in the droplet heating up which gives the dissolved particulate matter IN the droplet enough kinectic energy to kick start a toxic but otherwise harmless chemical reaction between the petrol and the diesel particles. The droplet will soon explode if the heating continues but unfortunately the rain droplet achieves its terminal velocity and ceases to heat up anymore. The result is that the drop of water is now highly unstable and can be exploding any given moment. Its a ticking time bomb waiting to fall on the most expensive bikes down on earth.
When you are standing at the signal there usually is a car somewhere around you thats running a radio. These radio waves are from the same stratosphere where our rain droplet became toxic and bio-hazardous. So the radio waves now penetrate through this water droplet while in the air and infuse more potential energy into it. This results in the rain droplets gaining in size.It is also here that the radio waves, through their sun rays like heating effect, make the inside of the water droplet conducive for life and micro-organisms start breeding on the petrol-diesel molecules.
When this dear rain droplet nears the earths surface the micro-organisms in it see a green or a black ninja and say..'aahhh a 3 lac bike..that bike heats up for sure' and steer the droplet for YOUR bike straight away. On collision of this droplet with the heated radiator of the bike, this droplet then explodes.BOOM
Thankfully the explosion isnt as bad as we first set out thinking it would be and our whole theory is rendered obsolete. Its merely evaporation

ROFL. This is epic. Seriously, you should work for Pixar or Dreamworks.

**throttle_GRz** · 07-04-2011, 12:15 PM

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**trustvishwas** · 07-04-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by n_aditya View Post

ROFL. This is epic. Seriously, you should work for Pixar or Dreamworks.

But he already works only in his dreams

**TenHut** · 07-04-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

By the way, i would just like to caution some of the newer rider's of the ninja about the behaviour of the bike in sharp turns (something I learnt from my recent accident). All those who have graduated from the lighter Indian bikes (150's ..180's etc) please note-

Please note what i mention below is relative to my experience on my Pulsar 180-

The front end of the bike offers somewhat less feedback to the rider as to how much weight there is on the front wheel. This becomes especially important when you riding enthusiastically on a ghat section of the road (climbing) and if the road changes camber angle in a U turn. In my case all the above mentioned conditions were satisfied and the front end just gave way and obviously rest is history.

This is just my opinion and open to debate.

Akshay

Hi toolkit ! I would just like to add in my 2 cents as quickly and as shortly as possible.
The Ninja250R actually has more front feedback than any other bikes in India right now(except for the R15)
But suddenly loading the front is something that happens sooner on the Ninja than on any other indian bikes due to various reasons (its weight is front biased, it being a sportbike, and its got waaayyy more engine braking than any of the pulsars etc)
If you make mistakes with your throttle in a corner(going off throttle in a corner for example) you are gonna load the front of a Ninja250R in no time and thats probably what happened to you. Just sayin

@throttle_Grz : the rising sun concept is nice. Gotta see it in person. Me likes !

**GuRpReEt SiNgH** · 07-04-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

I read a couple of pages back with people having issues with the rear brake. The brake pedal does not respond when you press it, and then you gotta release, and pump again to get some braking going.

According to a friend, its possibly due to keeping your foot resting on the brake lever. Not sure if this is the issue observed, but do ride consciously and do report back!

Excellent observation mate, I have seen many bikers who rest their right foot on the brake lever, as a result the brake light glows. I am very particular in this regard and my right foot is normally below the brake lever. Its an effort to bring it up and press the lever, but then i do not use the rear brake that much and because I have always been doing this it has become a habbit and comes naturally to me.

**shamshuis** · 07-04-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Professor Biker..... View Post

I have a requisition kinda thing for all the Pune Baby Ninette owners. Why not have a meet for all the owners, make an exclusive Baby Ninjette Owners G2G? Probably if we go to Lonavala, Mumbai guys could also meet-up. It'll be super fun and a great experience for sure. Please post your thoughts on this.

Thats a fantastic idea. It will be great to meet ninja owners from both the cities. I am sure most of the owners will be happy to be a part of this G2G.

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